[Movie] WWE/TNA fanfiction thread

NWO TNA is officially over.

Nobody will miss it.

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TNA is not over. WWE will not be presenting the Rise and Fall of TNA DVD in 2010 or 2011, and Hogan will not hold the TNA Heavyweight Title either.

This is an excellent move for TNA. What we all fail to remember is that politics did not kill WCW. The AOL/Time Warner merger killed WCW. That said, Eric brings years and years of experience and money into the deal, while Hulk Hogan brings his name brand into it. Like him or not he IS Hulk Hogan, and any wrestling fan worth their designation will mark the fuck out for him at any given time. This move brings TNA not only the media exposure they absolutely need, but also the credibility that shows future prospects and wrestling markets alike that they are standing ready to try and build something that'll give the WWE a run for it's money. Win or lose, they are now balls to the wall and not just content with getting 1.0-1.2 ratings anymore.

A win for TNA means more competition and a better overall industry. TNA being "over" and losing means Vince can continue to monopolize the industry without even considering putting out a good product. I fail to see why anyone would naturally want TNA to fail under the present circumstances. Just sit back and enjoy the ride while hoping that this is what brings TNA to a level where they can make Vince do more than what he's doing now.

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I wasn't referring to Hogan.

I was referring to Bischoff.

TNA is done. Over. Kaput.

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Now what in the world would make you believe that?

He has no creative control at all, he'll be mostly handling production. Production of course, is one of the biggest weaknesses that TNA had up to this point. Not only this, he played absolutely no part in the demise of the original WCW.

So where is the hate coming from here?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Actually Vince will kill TNA after what happened backstage.

Oh, and btw, I'm referring to Vince Russo

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

This is a bold move, because I'm really not sure if it's good or bad. If it somehow skyrockets TNA to the point where I'd be switching channels like I did with Nitro and Raw in 97-98, then I welcome it.

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Thoughts first on Hogan - WCW:
Hogan was not the lead reason why WCW died but he certainly was a part of it. Fans DO mark for Hogan but they ALSO get tired of the same stuff over and over again. Hogan kept beating everyone, no matter if he was a heel or a face, and people grew tired of it.
This though, was a problem with WCW in general. The same talent stayed at the top, and the young talent were rarely given a chance to grow and shine. What little talent did was eventually crushed to the point they were meaningless (Goldberg).

that being said. Hogan gives credibility. I hate to think how much the guy gets paid, but him signing DOES give TNA more credibility. If TNA can do what WCW did in 95, that is bring in big-name talent while coupling it with the best talent on the planet, they can build themselves up.

I do hope though Carter remembers her goal though. Build the YOUNG talent.

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Hogan had absolutely no role in the demise of WCW as again, that was the AOL/Time Warner merger. He did have a role in keeping people down and making the product stale once Vince Russo had become head of creative. Russo was THE driving force for the shitfest that WCW became once Bischoff was removed as WCW Vice President. This is where it gets interesting, and is one of the main reasons I am both interested and intrigued by Hogan being both signed by TNA and given total creative control. In WCW, Russo was above Hogan. Now, Hogan is above Russo. Observe:

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Interesting that all three parties in that very video are now intertwined again. The unquestionable concern here is whether or not Hogan will use his newfound power to have one last run with Hulkamania basically defacing TNA in the process. Bischoff isn't even an issue in this case, and can only be a positive acquisition.

You gotta understand, Hogan's career was BUILT on sending the crowd home happy at the end of a major feud with him hitting the leg drop and picking up the win and possibly a title. It's natural for him to want this to occur each time, as to not devalue that reaction. If you look back over the last ten years though, he had no problem "passing the torch" (lol at Dwayne Johnson) and jobbing to The Rock at a Wrestlemania. Now, his body is in terrible shape and Hulkamania can hardly even walk wild, much less run.

I think we'll see a brand new, different kind of Hulk Hogan now.

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I can never discount Hogan's contributions or his unmatched charisma. his ability to still be in the business twenty-five years when Hulkamania began is remarkable. ONly Flair has that staying power.

Back in 2002, Hogan did a nice job of giving the guys who needed the rub. However, after he left the WWE and came back in 2005 and onward, he never lost. I have no problem if Hulk wins, but at least return the favor. Having HBK superkick him after clobbering him with a chair ,and then Hulk coming back in two more return matches won't hurt him, but would help Shawn (a little bit). And certainly having Orton beat Hogan, even if it took an RKO on a chair, and his feet on the ropes, would catapult Orton. And of course Hogan could come back.

That all being put aside, if Hogan is really wanting to put TNA on the map and lend his name credibility, i have no problems with that.

As for WCW, I don't disagree on Russo's idiotic booking. Russo looked like a genius the first week or two. After that, it was ho-hum, and then "what as he thinking?!". However, Hogan DID play a part in all of it. Back in 94, Hogan was booed a great deal. same in 1995. His heel turn in 96 was probably his best move as he couldn't keep going at the pace he was at. However, how often did Hogan lose after that? Piper (in a mind boggling non title match at WCW's biggest PPV of the year). Sting (sort of. Sting got the win back at Superbrawl but it was essentially meaningless by then). Luger (and Hogan got the title back three days later). Then Flair, but that was convulted as all heck.

Heck, think back to all of Hogan's losses in WCW. I think Piper's and his second (kinda) loss to Sting were his only clean ones (Luger's was kind of shakey as there was mass interference).

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I think Bischoff(just going by his reactions whenever Vince would rub WCW's death in his face back when he worked for him) had a lot of passion for WCW, it must have sucked to see it go under and there was nothing he could do to stop it.

eh to re-emphasize the obvious, Hogan has 2 bad legs. The fact that he's even there though is huge enough on its own.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Except, Hogan has YET to show up, giving excuses already.

Dixie Carter gave a speech. More or less "Join with me, or leave". Not those exact words, but it felt like rather than talking about the talent's frustrations / complaints, it was like they should give full allegance to her and trust in her to do things even if they don't agree / understand, or they should go. Not exactly a motivating speech.

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Ever since Double J left, TNA has gone down the shitter.

That little speech, showed that Carter doesn't give a shit about TNA and the talent, if she did, well...she wouldn't have given that speech.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Survivor Series is Sunday night, so it's time for some predictions!

Team Mickie (Mickie, Eve, Kelly, Gail, and Diva's Champion Melina) vs. Team Michelle (Women's Champion Michelle, Jillian, Glamazon, Layla, and Fox)

I really haven't been following the Divas stuff, but I'm gonna take a wild guess.

Winner: Team Michelle
Survivors: Michelle and Glamazon


Team Morrison (IC Champ Morrison, Hardy, Bourne, Shelton, and Finlay) vs. Team Miz (US Champ Miz, McIntyre, Sheamus, Ziggler, and Swagger)

With how they're making Sheamus seem unstoppable, I think I can see Finlay taking him on and they'll both get counted out. It'll come down to Bourne and Swagger, with Swagger getting the win and rubbing it in Miz's face.

Winner: Team Miz
Survivor: Swagger


Rey Mysterio vs. Batista

I haven't been keeping up with Smackdown, but I actually caught the last part of it tonight. Rey's going in with a little momentum, meaning Batista will take him down at Survivor Series.

Winner: Batista


Team Kingston (Kofi, MVP, Henry, R-Truth, and Christian) vs. Team Orton (Orton, Dibiase, Rhodes, Regal, and Punk)

Regal gets pinned, Rhodes gets pinned, Dibiase gets pinned, Punk gets pinned, Orton gets pinned. Team Kingston gets a shutout here.

Winner: Team Kingston
Survivors: The whole team


World Heavyweight Champion Undertaker vs. Big Show vs. Chris Jericho

I get the feeling Taker will retain, but there's the possibility for a twist. I don't see Show getting the title here, but oddly enough I think what will happen is Taker getting knocked out by Show and then getting Codebreakered by Jericho just like what happened tonight on Smackdown. Jericho pins and wins the title.

Winner and new Champion: Chris Jericho


WWE Champion John Cena vs. HBK vs. HHH

There's no way Cena will lose the title here. If HBK was solely facing Cena, then I'd bet on Shawn. Cena will put the Attitude Adjustment on HHH over the top rope, HBK tries for a Superkick, misses, gets locked into the STF, and taps out. Cena retains. After this, I'd hate to say it but we'll probably see a DX split and begin the HHH/HBK rivalry. The worst part of all of this? Orton will be back in the title hunt next month.

Winner: John Cena

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I have to disagree. I'm more than willing to believe DiBiase finally turns on Legacy (as thats been the plan in WWE to make DiBiase face for some time now)

Then for Cena's title, I think that Rhodes will be all "since orton can't do anything, I WILL"

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..The results are in.

Spoiler:

WWE Champion John Cena def Triple H & Shawn Michaels (Triple Threat Match)
World Heavyweight Champion Undertaker def. Big Show & Chris Jericho (Triple Threat Match)
Team Kingston def. Team Orton (Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Tag Team Match)
Batista def. Rey Mysterio
Team Miz def. Team Morrison (Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Tag Team Match)
Team Mickie def. Team Michelle (Traditional Survivor Series Tag Team Elimination Match)

lol, Vince is still using Cena as the championship workhorse and having HHH and HBK job to this guy.. Somethings, I guess never change.

Uhh, I already knew she going to WWE long time ago, but Gail should probably think about going back to TNA, or just retire. All that talent she has is not going to be used in the WWE(considering that the divas are just used for sex appeal and nothing else).

And ever since the end of the cruiserweight divsion, Rey has been reduced to punching bag/stress ball/thing people beat on for fun.

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Some sad news in the wrasslin' world... Umaga has passed away.

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Good lord, at the age of 36. I had no idea he was released back in June due to his refusal to go into rehab after his second violation of the wellness policy.

R.I.P. Umaga

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It's still hard to believe that Umaga was involved in a storyline with one of the top stars on Smackdown! six months prior to his death. Heck, he even faced Punk (and lost) just hours before Punk won the world title. And he was only 36. It's scary how we lose so many young wrestlers each year.... RIP Umaga is the best I can say.

In much less somber news.....I thought I'd make some predictions:

WWE Championship - Tables Match
- John Cena (c) vs. Sheamus.
Winner: Cena. Amazingly, this reminds me slightly of Umaga as they made Umaga to be unstoppable in which Cena squeaked out a win against him. That is what is going to happen here as Cena is going to put Sheamus through a table only for Sheamuas to get right back up and pummel Cena after the match. They'll have a rematch at the royal Rumble.

WWE World Heavyweight Championship - Steel Chair Match
- The Undertaker (c) vs. Batista.
Winner: Undertaker. Undertaker has had an honestly surprisingly title reign. I certainly didn't expect him to pick the title up this year. As for Batista, his heel turn has went well so far. The question is...who will Batista face if he wins the title. In some ways Jericho would be a better champ giong into Mania, with a returning Edge to face him. However, Edge's return may not be in line with Wrestlemania.
That said, if Batista is going to win the title, I'd expect him to do it next month. I generally see that the WWE goes for patterns with wrestler's wins and losses, and Batista has generally been unsuccessful in December PPV's (with his win over Orton last year being perhaps the lone exception...I haven't looked back far enough). Undertaker though has not always had the best of luck at the Royal Rumble. That said, watch for Undertaker to retain here and loss it at the Royal Rumble, perhaps in a triple threat match.


ECW Championship - Ladder Match
- Christian (c) vs. Shelton Benjamin.
Winner: Shelton Benjamin. Amazingly, Christian has held the title an incredible six months or so....and if you discount the hiccup with Dreamer getting the title, then he has had it since maybe April. That being said, I think the WWE is running out of options for who for Christian to face, so I think Shelton will pick it up. Also, the ECW title is a title that is there to make the fans really happy (Christian), help elevate stars on the rise (Morrison, Punk), or reward those who have been consistent but aren't likely to get a (or another) world title reign (Dreamer, Kane, Mark Henry).
- Chris Jericho & Big Show (c's) vs. DX.
Winners: Big show and Jericho. This is a close one, but Jerishow has been getting updated by DX often. Plus, this will begin to set the seeds for an HBK / HHH showdown at Mania. I'm not sure either man will turn heel, but it will add momentum to their match.
- Randy Orton vs. Kofi Kingston.
Winner: Orton. Kingston has been pushed hard and had a shocking victory over Orton's team at Survivor Series. However, Orton is the veteran and is going to get the duke here, with Kingston continuing their feud.
WWE Intercontinental Championship
- John Morrison (c) vs. Drew McIntyre.
Winner: Drew McIntyre. Word has it Triple H is big on Drew. That, the fact he gained momentum with a win over Morrison, and the fact that the WWE may be ready to push John to that next level, may result in him losing the title here. I mean, though it may be a bit pre-mature....think about it... The WWE wants to make new stars, what if Morrison won the Royal Rumble, then went to Wrestlemania to challenge for the title (which coincides with a DVD that is coming out with him to further establish him)? Though it's unlikely as it IS the WWE....it could still happen.
WWE Women's Championship
- Michelle McCool (c) vs. Mickie James.
Winner: McCool.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm going to be lazy and say that mortis' first three predictions went with my own. As for the rest:

- Chris Jericho & Big Show (c's) vs. DX.
Winners: DX. It would be nice to see DX get the tag titles at least once before they split for good. Look for Big Show to try the knockout and he ends up hitting the head of HHH's sledgehammer, thus injuring his hand. HHH knocks him out with the sledge while HBK and Jericho race to the top of the ladder for the belts. Jericho gains the advantage until HBK somehow delivers sweet chin music to Jericho, knocking him off the ladder and HBK grabbing the belts.

- Randy Orton vs. Kofi Kingston.
Winner: Orton. I've gotta go with mortis on this one too. Both wins were unclean, so look for another unclean win by Orton with the help of Legacy interfering.

- John Morrison (c) vs. Drew McIntyre.
Winner: John Morrison. Since he's the HBK of the present, he'll be holding onto the IC title for a little longer. Look for him to maybe lose it in February, if he even does. I see Morrison possibly winning MitB at Mania and be the first person to not win the title by cashing in MitB.

WWE Women's Championship
- Michelle McCool (c) vs. Mickie James.
Winner: Mickie James...just a total guess.

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RIP to Umaga. I really enjoyed his Samoan Slam moves as it didn't look so half-assed.

Some comments to TLC:

Spoiler:

Cena vs Sheamus: Ouch Sheamus is getting pushed hardcore by the writers. I guess they're running out of heels for Cena to fight without making it too old.

DX vs Jerishow: I was hoping Jerishow would win and continue as champs so when Edge finally comes back to get his revenge, Christian would be in the lines as his partner. Pretty sure Jericho won't be silent tonight on RAW.

Orton vs Kingston: Meh I don't like Kingston as much. Orton is an awesome heel and his character is well developed. Losing to Kingston would've been terrible on Orton's status as a main event character.

I was speaking idiomatically.

FYI You all do know Sheamus O'Brein and Drew Mc...Mc....Drew the Scottish dude are getting DX love.

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So Bret Hart signed a short-term contract.

Quote:

The Wrestling Observer is reporting that Bret Hart has signed a short-term talent contract with WWE that will go into effect on January 1st, 2010, and expire a couple weeks after WrestleMania 26. This makes it very possible that he will be guest hosting the January 4th edition of WWE Raw when it goes head-to-head with TNA Impact. Additionally, Bret could feasibly make further appearances for WWE if his contract is in fact as long as the report indicates.

This could start making things interesting again.

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Is it just me or did the ground get a lot colder? I seriously did not expect him to ever make an appearance in the WWE again.

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I was wondering why I had this chill up my spine this morning...

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The rumors have been going on for months. ONly recently did something materialize out of it all.

I think it's safe to say we'll be seeing the Hart Dynasty taking the titles from DX. Also, wouldn't it be quite the twist if Bret was the special guest ref for say...HBK Vs Undertaker II? It would be a bit of reversal of roles from Summerslam 97.

MY general feeling is they should have Bret come in as a heel and help the hart Dynasty win the tag titles, but eventually turns face to face Vince . they can have a match at Wrestlemania in which Bret basically pummels Vince.

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