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[Multiplatform] Official Final Fantasy XIII Thread
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Old May 15, 2006, 08:33 PM #301 of 1141
Originally Posted by Mercury
Well why not? Imagine that, you could actually watch a cinematic battle scene, and at the same time you would be building the very next scene by queuing commands of your character as in the teaser, you know like when she does "Firaga" and then "Shoot", those are actually queued actions in the command bar.

Those queued commands would be use to build the next sequence depending on many variables like the number, the position and the size of enemies, how they move, balance, char level, char mood, room size and room elements, environment, timing, random, etc, and with all that the white-engine-AI could generated cinematic-feel-battle-sequences similar to the one we saw in the teaser.

Now THAT would certainly add much more to the RPG/FF gender then just "better graphics", and would definitely be next-gen and a...“kinda-cool” I might add

Hey guys, re-watch the HD trailer with that in mind and tell me what you think? Personally, that’s what I expect.
No, people are arguing that the UI shown in the screenshots might not make it to the final product. You are arguing about the battle system, which is entirely different.

I think the UI mockup thing is right though. Okay, look at all the garbage on the screen. Do you think there's enough room for two or three other party member's stuff in there? The only thing I can think of is that they show the action queue / ATB bar for one person at a time, and execute accordingly. Don't know if I like that.

The only other thing I can think of are that there is no party members.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old May 15, 2006, 09:04 PM #302 of 1141
maybe it will be the first FF with only one playing character...

and for the "ennemy turn" maybe they act like in squad, so maybe there will attack like 3 or 4 at the same time (like in FFX there are some fish that sometime apear alone or in pack of 2 or 3 XD)

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Old May 16, 2006, 12:48 AM Local time: May 15, 2006, 09:48 PM #303 of 1141
Well to me, from looking at the screens. It seems to be like an upgraded version of the FFXII battle. Though, without the arcs from enemy-to-player. And that menu is brought up by pressing the action button so that you can select the type of action to perform against the enemy or yourself (if it's a cure/restorative item).

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Old May 17, 2006, 02:38 AM #304 of 1141
Here's the game trailer for those who don't want to go hunting it down

Trailer: FFXIII

I hope it's not going to be too damn futuristic. After seeing the train riding through a city I can tell they are planning on bringing that FF7 element back. I sure hope that's the case this time

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Old May 17, 2006, 03:32 AM #305 of 1141
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maybe it will be the first FF with only one playing character...
I hope not. The action already looks amazing with just one character, so imagine 3 or 4 fighting at once.

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Old May 17, 2006, 03:42 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 01:42 AM #306 of 1141
I already miss turn battles, I kind of like having 100% control over all my teamates, but that's just me. I'll get over it... I hope.

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Old May 17, 2006, 05:04 AM #307 of 1141
Originally Posted by Rasputin
I already miss turn battles, I kind of like having 100% control over all my teamates, but that's just me. I'll get over it... I hope.
they still can make turn battle like exemple:

each character and monster have they turn, and when it's your turn you have to enter a series of combo that you see excute in a cinematic still action, but that's just me saying that XD

but yeah I did really enjoy the turn base battle in FFX

and yeah soldier just imagine if they put in, 2, 3 or more character action combo! that would be insane!

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Old May 17, 2006, 08:04 AM #308 of 1141
Here are some awesome scans:

http://img132.imagevenue.com/img.php...3057_13_01.jpg
http://img141.imagevenue.com/img.php...3065_13_02.jpg
http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php...3073_13_03.jpg
http://img108.imagevenue.com/img.php...3080_13_04.jpg
http://img129.imagevenue.com/img.php...3087_13_05.jpg
http://img106.imagevenue.com/img.php...3093_13_06.jpg
http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?...3101_13_07.jpg
http://img42.imagevenue.com/img.php?...3107_13_08.jpg
http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php...3114_13_09.jpg
http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?l...3121_13_10.jpg

FF Agito XIII (Moblie Phone) Scans:

http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?...ader162095.jpg

Some notes courtesy of Duckroll:
- FFXIII might have online features, but it won't be the focus
- FF Versus XIII will not have online features
- The battle system for FFXIII will make use of both "time" (ATB probably) and "3D space" (probably meaning the battles take place within a 3D area that actually affects the gameplay)

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Old May 17, 2006, 08:36 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 08:36 AM #309 of 1141
I'm finding it really hard to actually like this female character considering when you look at the third scan in Jagged's post, it's like they pasted Cloud and Yuna's hairstyle together on her and changed it all to blonde.

I hope they flesh out that character a little bit before she becomes the final product in the game.

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Old May 17, 2006, 08:43 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 06:43 AM #310 of 1141
The last scan reminds me something out of the Dragons of Heaven from X/1999. Kilts SKIRTS, interesting.



Nice job finding the scans, Jagged.

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Old May 17, 2006, 08:43 AM #311 of 1141
So, only the girls are wearing kilts. I wonder if they could be something else, then...

Oh, right. Skirts.

Also, I picked my avatar because of the striking blond hair. May want to look at your color settings there.

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Old May 17, 2006, 09:34 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 07:34 AM #312 of 1141
Somehow the plaid skirts remind me of a school uniform. I wonder if they're gonna have some sort of school/educational institution ala Balamb Garden (FFVIII), and in the Mobile Phone Game, you go out and fight monsters & stuff as 'assignments' and 'homework'.

I like how they brought back the Before Crisis Character Designer (Or was it Nomura adapting to a new style?) for the new cell phone game.

Great job on those scans, Jagged!

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Old May 17, 2006, 09:56 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 05:56 PM #313 of 1141
It's annoying how the mobile phone versions (Before Crisis, Agito XIII) get the most distinctive and interesting Nomura output while the main games get the regular ho-hum scribbles.

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Old May 17, 2006, 10:01 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 08:01 AM #314 of 1141
You got me there Skate. Twice now. I meant plaid, no really. ;_;

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Old May 17, 2006, 11:06 AM #315 of 1141
Nice big Update from IGN:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/708/708994p1.html

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Old May 17, 2006, 11:06 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 08:06 AM #316 of 1141
I think this game is going to turn out much different than what we are seeing here. I atleast hope so.

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Old May 17, 2006, 11:41 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 11:41 AM #317 of 1141
After looking at all those scanes (thank you for those), I'm almost convinced her name has something to do with Lightning. I know, I know, I hate to bring it up as I stayed out of the debate last time, but damn.

Every. Single. Image. from a battle has Lightning down there. It's clearly not a spell, since "Firaga" is in there. Only other thing I can come up with is that "Lightning" is a particular combat stance or active element such as one imbued on a weapon. Who knows, I suppose.

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Old May 17, 2006, 11:53 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 08:53 AM #318 of 1141
Originally Posted by Jagged
So Agito does take place in a school. I suspected that from that scan.

It's also interesting to hear about the crystals playing a role in the two other titles.

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Old May 17, 2006, 12:18 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 10:18 AM #319 of 1141
Originally Posted by SouthJag
Only other thing I can come up with is that "Lightning" is a particular combat stance or active element such as one imbued on a weapon. Who knows, I suppose.
I was thinking the same thing, that for the battle, all of her attacks have an electrical status effect. Makes a bit more sense then for it to be her name.

So it IS Nomura's designs on the cell phone game huh? That's cool. I like how they confirmed what I suspected, and that it is based around a magical school.

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Old May 17, 2006, 09:00 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 06:00 PM #320 of 1141
Originally Posted by Inhert
maybe it will be the first FF with only one playing character...
I hope so, after seeing those scans. I actually hope the game is more action and less RPG.

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Old May 17, 2006, 09:30 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 08:30 PM #321 of 1141
Thanks for the scans! Nice image of the heroine's weapon changing from sword to gun.



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Old May 17, 2006, 09:31 PM #322 of 1141
Originally Posted by SouthJag
After looking at all those scanes (thank you for those), I'm almost convinced her name has something to do with Lightning. I know, I know, I hate to bring it up as I stayed out of the debate last time, but damn.

Every. Single. Image. from a battle has Lightning down there. It's clearly not a spell, since "Firaga" is in there. Only other thing I can come up with is that "Lightning" is a particular combat stance or active element such as one imbued on a weapon. Who knows, I suppose.
Now that you mention it, I've noticed that some of the pictures say fire, blizzard and thunder. Wouldn't it be better to put thunder on that spot other than lightning if it is some type of elemental attack/status/stance or whatever.

Here's one:
http://img28.imagevenue.com/img.php?...3101_13_07.jpg

Sorry if i'm bringing up an old topic but i never really noticed until I read that post.

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Old May 17, 2006, 10:28 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 10:28 PM #323 of 1141
SInce Fire and Thunder are grouped together like that, along with Blizzard, I would safely assume those to be spell names and nothing more. The "Lightning" is out of place, so it's definitely something other than a simple spell.

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Old May 18, 2006, 06:21 PM Local time: May 18, 2006, 09:21 PM #324 of 1141
I belive it would be nice to have something shocking in a FF title like only one character. Maybe this female character would meet some people in her journey but they will stay in the party for a brief period of time. Going through most of the game on her own.

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Old May 19, 2006, 07:03 AM #325 of 1141
"Lightning" could be anything from an attack formation, element absorption, new unmastered spell, weapon entchantment to god-knows. I just don't think it's got anything do with a character name.
I wouldn't worry about her being the only playable character. In time, they'll reveal new characters. It's not a clever marketing strategy if they unveil all their secrets immediately. The prospects of some good relationships between her and some other characters is reason enough, despite her looking like a toughieloner.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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