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Two weeks. He won't be able to handle the additional stress required to hold onto that belt, and it will end up with a title drop. RVD was stupid, but Hardy really can't help it. Much like Matt, he isn't much of a singles wrestler. WWE as a product is stale right now because they keep pushing older and more recognized talent who are liabilities as opposed to the Colt Cabanas (Scott Goldman) out there that can be viable stars. This as opposed to putting together a tag team division with what they have and making wrestling actually exciting again.
Eddie Guerrero is an example of someone who would better shine in this situation, as he did when he got clean and won the title. Hardy is no Guerrero, unfortunately. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I mean this is what..the 5th or 6th time we've had the Kane in Love storyline? I was speaking idiomatically. ![]() |
better than the rape/necrophilia storyline. Pretty much lost faith in WWE's ability to make stories right there.
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WWE has more problems than just the writers. They could have ten year olds writing the scripts, but as long as the wrestling is fun to watch it doesn't matter. When I see shit like Chris Jericho tap out to the STFUROFLOL in two seconds, I get real concerned. It's more like we have heads up asses rather than thumbs, because they can't see what exactly it is they're doing to the legitimacy of the same people they want holding their main titles.
All they need to do with "storylines" is remove the retarded gimmicks and go on to more potent shit. Chris Benoit and Kevin Sullivan's feud over Woman in WCW is how you do a love angle, that Kane shit can burn. Things like Katie Vick and incest and all that shit has no business in a wrestling ring anymore. The sad thing is, WWE and TNA both are now guilty of this. Frontline vs. "Main Event Mafia"? What the FUCK is a MAIN EVENT MAFIA? Seriously. How ya doing, buddy? |
I think I've done this before Get a STRONG second/third gen stable going with Rhodes, DiBiase and Orton. Counteract that with Cryme Tyme and Cena. Revive the Tag Team Division. Get rid of the world tag team titles and only keep the WWE tag titles and have those defended across RAW and SD! (You can forget about ECW cause all that really is is a nationally televised version of FCW) Hey, WWE, did you see how great of a team Evan Bourne and Mysterio made? You should check back up on that when Bourne is healthy. Rehire Paul London, get rid of Kendricks Douchebag gimmick and put them back together. If the WWE wants to appeal to kids, give Burchill back the pirate gimmick. That has so much more merit than jobbing to Jamie Noble. Fix the womens divison big time WWE. We know you have Gail Kim waiting in the wings, and right now, with Phoenix, Melina and Mickie James on RAW and Nataylia on SD! its hurting the division. Especially because rumors have been going around that Victoria is going to be retiring...and honestly, ever since she lost that Schizo gimmick..she hasn't been the same. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? ![]() |
WCW lost Benoit because it turned to shit once management lost control. Benoit/Sullivan happened way before all that.
WWE appealing to kids is like McDonalds trying to appeal to anorexics. Professional wrestling is not High School Musical. If that's the case, they should bring in Hannah Montana to wrestle any other teenybopper regularly shown on the Disney channel. They need to change the way they do things. Imagine one show with all the older stars, and one show with all the newer talent? Not some "new ECW" shit either, but running a show akin to how WCW Saturday Night was set up where it gives people time to showcase their talent. You keep two camps happy doing that, leave the family friendly shit to the established stars, and give the new guys some edge and room to show themselves off. I could give two shits about individual wrestlers, but it needs to be fun again. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
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At least WWE isn't the mess that TNA is. For a brand that had so much fucking potential and started off really well... I don't know what the hell happened. Unwatchable. It makes the WWE writers look like geniuses.
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Yes, TNA is also a flaming shithole at the moment. They went from the "alternative" to "we are wrestling" to "we love jobbing our talent to old motherfuckers well past their prime." It continues to make me firmly believe that Vince Russo is Vince McMahon's bloody buddy sent to every promotion to self-destruct it. Russo to WCW? Destroyed. Russo to TNA? Slowly turning to shit. They broke up Team Canada. They broke up AMW. They almost broke up LAX. They essentially ended the X-Division focus. They lost Gail Kim who basically built their Women's division. Then what do they do to make up for it?
They depush their entire homegrown roster and begin main eventing people who bring absolutely no value to the company aside from maybe Jarrett and when used correctly, Kurt Angle. Total Nonstop Atrocity. Also still lolin' at Freddie Prinze Jr. being on WWE creative. He needs to go back to bangin Sarah Michelle Gellar and run away while he can. Most amazing jew boots |
Wasn't the AMW split AMW's decision?
I truly think the best matches of TNA were the Six Sides of Steel between Styles/Daniels and LAX as well as the three way between Styles/Daniels/Joe. TNA has some of the best talent out there...but horrible writers. I still live on the principal that we could do a lot better booking for WWE and TNA...because we're the fans and we know what people like to see. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? ![]() |
The split was an internal decision, which is what caused Chris Harris to move to WWE where he will likely be stuck in the abyss that is the developmental territories.
TNA has an excellent roster when you set aside the older wrestlers that really have no business wrestling anymore, but the company has zero direction. You look at them now, and you have no idea what it is you are or want to be seeing out of them. In most cases, writers seeking employment with WWE are expected to have experience with "dramas" (read: soap operas) rather than be attuned to the wrestling business and know what people want. You can assume most of these guys don't even bother researching the product and current trends, they write for McMahonagement only. Vince himself could be the problem, but we'll never quite know. I do know however, that TNA has no excuse for the bullshit. FELIPE NO |
Thoughts in no specific order:
Slash: Yep, AMW broke themselves up. I think Harris wanted to break things up. Supposedly though, a few weeks later Harris want to get back together in which Storm said 'no'. So it may have been more mutual. Ah, the old Kane/love story. Torrie, Lita, now...who was it again? Anyway, this could be amusing if she keeps telling Kane it's various individuals. Benoit/Sullivan was suppose to be an angle. It happened to turn into a shoot (unfortunately given all that went down years later). That was a large part but not the sole reason for Benoit leaving. NWA/TNA has lost it's luster. I do like the MEM all in suits. Flair did it for years and it's just something that states "We mean business". However, when their top heel (Sting) is getting cheered many times over the top face (Joe), you have problems. Actually, Russo should have remembered he tried this ten years ago and it failed. At least though Sting has now the longest world title reign since 1992 and his heel turn wasn't so short that people forgot about it (although many are trying to justify him now). The fact that most of the WWE talent has been going over most of TNA's home grown talent is sad. It should be a mixture. You can't have Angle, Christian, Sting, the Dudleys, Booker T and others being jobbed out to TNA guys...that's what Vince did WCW vs WWE. However, you can't have WWE guys punking out TNA, that's what happened to WCW (against the NWO, as one person put it when the NWO came back together for the 30th time, "Maybe they'll remember to let WCW win this time"). It has to be a nice mixture. And that means letting Styles win the world title. Improve the WWE? Here's what would be nice to see: First, before ANYTHING, a masked guy begins to taunt John Cena and challenge him to a match. Each week he goads Cena into the ring. They have the match, and Cena is doing his usual stuff when suddenly near the end, Bischoff comes out to distract Cena only for the challenger to low blow Cena, then roll him up for the pinfall with his feet on the ropes. Eric Bischoff comes out one night to the surprise of everyone. He states that he enjoyed Celebrity Wrestling but goes on to say that it never really kicked the WWE's @$$ like WCW did. He then goes on to say that he wished he could relive the old days but sadly couldn't. It was too expensive in these economic times. In comes Hulk Hogan. Hogan relates to what Bischoff said, then goes on to say how he despises Vince for the various things Vince has done the last few years to him and his friends. He goes on to say that everyone knows that "Hogan's knows best" and while his t.v. show didn't quite work out, his pro wrestling career certainly has. He goes on to say that there were three people who built wrestling in the 80's, two of them being McMahon and himself. He then goes on to say that now he's going to rebuild it again as he has agreed to be the financial back ground in regards to the revival of WCW. Hogan then goes on to say it's also ironic because as he said, he, McMahon, and one other guy built pro wrestling because McMahon is going to help him again. shane McMahon. Shane comes out and goes on to say how he has invested quite a bit of stock in WWE. He then goes on to say that he has thought about years back, when the McMahons were in both rings, and how THAT was the wrestling people REALLY wanted to see. So he goes on to say that he didn't give the people what they wanted then, and he apologies, but that's all going to change as he has provided his stock and clout in the company such that Bischoff and Hogan can do what they want. And with that in mind, they want and now are going to revive WCW. And so, as of right now, the show is no longer WWE Raw, but WCW Monday Night. Bischoff then takes the mic again and says that though it's common wrestling knowledge that you have to have a world champion. He even goes on to say that many wrestling companies in the 1900's would have a champion even before they had a company. Bischoff goes on to say that he thought about who could fill that gap. He considered Hogan, but Hogan would be too busy with his end regarding the company. He considered Steve Austin, but Austin "sucks". He considered The Rock, but Dwanye Johnson is in Hollywood. He then says he thought back some and realized that what Hogan said is right, there were really three guys who built wrestling in the 80's. Bischoff says he may not like him, and in fact has had his wars both in and out of the ring with him, but there is no other guy who can better represent WCW as their world champion other than...Ric Flair. Flair comes out and speaks the tradition of WCW. He does on to say he despises Bischoff and Hogan but despises Vince 1000 times more for what he did to WCW. Flair stated that when he retired, he was retiring from WWE, but he would NOT retire from wrestling altogether. He's go on to say he'll live pro wrestling and die pro wrestling. Bischoff gets back on the mic and states that it's a dawn of a new era. He then goes on to state that his first act is to bring back the cruiserweight division that WWE killed. He'll even go as far as saying that WWE killed the division because WWE knew they could never duplicate it's success. Bischoff will then announce that he has already, with Shane's help, signed talent over to make that division both from ECW and WWE. He'll even have a few surprises from "other pro wrestling companies". We move onto Smackdown! Vince is pissed off but says he's in control, not Bischoff. He then goes on to say that he controls WWE, and he controls ECW. He then says "speaking of ECW, what a failure that has turned outt o be". He then tells Shane that Shane should take al esson about reviving a company from the dead because there is a good reason it's dead-it sucks. Vince then says with that in mind, he's going to kill ECW, for good this time. He'll say that it has sucked since it's return, and it's bad enough to have one competitor using up his air time let alone two. He'll then call out the current ECW champion to turn in the belt (who I guess can be a heel). Said individual will come out, with Vince threatening to fire him, and hand Vince the belt to huge booes from the crowd. Vince will then say that ECW represents garbage wrestling, and says therefore there is only one fitting place to put the title. Vince then pulls in a trashcan and is ready to toss it in when ECW music hits. Paul Heyman comes out with Tommy Dreamer, RVD, and the Sandman in tow. Wrestlers will immediately enter the ring to protect Vince in which Heyman speaks. He'll go on to say that the reason ECW sucks is because Vince made it suck. He'll go on to say that before he respected Vince while he hated Bischoff because at least Vince would built talent while Bischoff would just steal it away. He'll say that after what he has seen Vince do to ECW, he hates them both now. Paul will go on to say that way back in December, Paul was wanting RVD in the main event, not Bobby Lashley. Vince ignored him and what happened? The worst Pay Per View ever. So bad that the new "good guy" champion got booed more than the worst "bad guy". Even worse, the champion that Vince liked so much was gone and out of the WWE in under a year. Paul then goes on to say how this was just the start of Vince's "new vision" of ECW. A vision that included no hardcore matches, a vision that included no blood or guts, a vision that included nearly every ECW wrestler, Stevie Richards, Sandman, RVD, Balls Maholey, all gone from ECW. Paul will then say that Vince's vision of ECW isn't ECW at all and that his vision sucks. Vince will then interrupt him and state that while it may have sucked, it certainly was better than his attempt. He'll go on to remind him that he's the one who bailed him out when he was bankrupt and riding high in debt. Vince will say HE owns ECW now, and that HE decides if it can live and HE decides if it will die. And not only that, Vince says he'll decide HOW it will die. Vince will then steps on the handle to open up the trash can as security holds Paul and his group down when... Stephanie McMahon's music hits. She'll walk down the ring to the surprise of Vince. She'll then grab the mic and say how she loathes ECW and loathes Paul Heyman even more. She'll then go on to say that nothing would do her more pleasure than to drop the title in the trash. Vince will then joyfully give her the title. Stephanie will say nothing will do her more pleasure...nothing except for being THE McMahon who leads pro wrestling into the new generation. Vince will look shocked as she continues that yes, she hates Paul, and Paul hates her, but she hates even more how she has worked just as hard as Shane and Vince, but has been pushed aside and seen as an afterthought in the pro wrestling business. She'll go on to say that when Vince was out for surgery, she was the one who took things over. But she was never thanked for it and when Vince thought about the heir to his 'empire', Shane, not her, was the first to come to mind. Stephanie will then go on to say that she kinda then sees herself as the underdog. So she can relate to ECW in that way as that company was the underdog. She'll then go on to say that then if she held finance ECW, so that "this" underdog beat not only WCW but WWE, that "this" underdog (referring to herself) would have risen up and proven herself as the most dominant McMahon in pro wrestling. So with that in mind, she has used her strock and clout as well as her finances to finance ECW. And this time (referring to the ECW/WCW merge years back), she has decided that she won't say anything, but let the wrestling speak for itself. And speaking of wrestling, she has two announcements. One, there will be more of it. Currently, it is unfair to ECW to have only one hour when the other companies have two. While she can't get another t.v. time slot at this time to get that secnod hour, she is going to make use of something ECW made use of first, and long before WCW and WWE- the Internet. That's right, the second hour of ECW will be provided on the ECW website for all to see. Second, speaking of wrestling, ECW had some of the finest tag teams in pro wrestling history. Some of them were make shift teams, but others went on to become former WCW and WWE champions and while a cornerstone in tag team wrestler, made their mark first in ECW. With that being said, she has contracted and signed BOTH tag team champions from the former Raw and from Smackdown! onto ECW and they will have a unification match. Furthermore, whoever wins will defend their titles against 'these guys...'. The Dudleys come in from nowhere and 3-D Vince. Chaos ensues in which the ECW title fights, then gets out of the ring, with Paul now holding the ECW title. This then sets up all three brands as following: WCW Monday Night Nitro: World Champion - Ric Flair Cruiserweight Champion - TBD WWE Smackdown! World Champion - Tentatively Jeff hardy Woman's Champion - Winner of Beth Phoenix Vs McCool ECW World Champion - TBD Tag Titles - Winner of Miz/Morrison Vs Carlito's Notice the specific division of tag titles/cruiserweight/ladies' title. That gives each brand something unique and fixes the issue where Raw and Smackdown currently have weak divisions regarding the tag team and woman's divisions because the decent talent they have is divided up. The United States and IC titles exist respectively, with Bischoff later shocking everyone by having Shelton Benjiman go to Nitro with the US title in tow. Down the road, ECW would have a T.V. title tournament which wuold give all the brands secondary titles. For WCW, they will get talent in their Cruiserweight division including Rey Mysterio (leading the division), Evan Bourne, Chavo Guerrero, Shane Helms, Jamie Noble, Taka Michinoku (making his return), Shannon Moore, Evan Kourageous, Christian York, Joey Mercury, for starters with cruizerweight talent from Raw, ECW, ROH, and TNA. For ECW, they will get talent in their tag team division including the Dudley Boys, Edge and Christian (albeit for a short time as E&C have reached the point that they should focus on their singles' careers), Miz/Morrison, the Carlito's, Jessie/Festus, Ted and MIKE Dibiase, Too Cool, Deuce and Domino, Bulldog and T.J. Wilson, and other teams as well as the occasional teaming of Matt and Jeff. For Smackdown, they get the ladies for the most part. If there are smoe that are SOLEY for eye candy and will NEVER have a match, then they can go on ECW/Nitro. However, all the talent goes on Smackdown! For the ECW title, there would be a one night tournament. Contenders would be a mix of past and present stars. Finals would be RVD Vs New ECW star they want to push with that new star going over RVD to set on the right path. MVP would be a top candidate as he can wrestle and talk. PPVs would be as follows: Royal Rumble: All Brands No Way Out: WWE Wrestlemania: All Brands Backlash: ECW Whatever this PPV was called: WCW King of the Ring: All Brands (Brand superiority tournament type deal here) Invasion: Smackdown! Summerslam: All Brands Sept's PPV: WCW No Mercy: ECW Survivor Series: All Brands Arm: All Brands (Annual Three Way Match to decide brand superiorty here). Mania and Survivor Series would focus more on non-brand interpromotional matches. The Royal Rumble has some of it but more focus on trying to get a title shot. KOTR and Armegeddon would be events where each brand is trying to show they are the best (so obvious inter-brand matches there). KOTR would always be a tournament and would not include the champions (in fact, the tournament is the only inter-brand-related matches). Armegeddon would have basically an entire card of inter-brand matches although no titles would be up for grabs (well, maybe the titles could be but there'd have to be a way that wouldn't screw up a brand). The rest of brand specific. And yes, I know this is bloody long. My ideas just flowed out this time... What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
tl; just skimmed.
Sadly the only way that would ever happen is if vince didn't have an ego the size of the sun. Jam it back in, in the dark. ![]() |
Again, mortis and some of the other guys here need to be given plane tickets, flown to WWE HQ, and get their asses hired as head WWE creative...NOW.
I think it was also discussed at one point that GFF should do their own brand of wrestling via the video games or something. Yeah, I think we were getting desperate. By the way, WCW's PPV in May was called Slamboree and then there was Fall Brawl: War Games in September. Oddly enough, Fall Brawl once featured three teams (WCW, nWo, and Wolfpac) in a cage match for superiority, although I can't remember the specifics. I had an idea for that three way match at Armageddon, although this would probably work better at Survivor Series. 5 people from WWE, 5 people from WCW, and 5 people from ECW compete in a Triple Threat Survival Elimination match. Basically, it's a traditional Survivor Series match but with three teams instead of two. Also, props to mortis for wanting to make King of the Ring a PPV again. I definitely miss it, however I'd go back to the original format where you had 8 qualifying matches on the weekly shows and then those 8 go on to the actual King of the Ring tournament on the PPV. I remember they downgraded it to 4 people in the PPV tournament so you had only the semifinals and finals portion. I definitely love seeing one night tournaments in the WWE. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Sad as it is, I actually used to do that very thing. I created practically everyone I wanted to see in the WWF at the time on No Mercy for the Nintendo 64, and each week I would schedule matches with a PPV once a month on Sundays. Scheduling title matches and watching the titles change hands on that game was a blast, I even kept records of the changes and the winners/losers for each week. Wish I could do that again, but every single wrestling game since No Mercy has been nothing but a letdown.
What WWE needs to do is only hold it's big four and be done with it. Royal Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam, and Survivor Series. You could potentially throw KOTR in there, but you'd get many more buys with more buildup and a PPV with epic matches as opposed to the shitfest that Armageddon was. Most amazing jew boots |
I honestly wish that at Wrestlemania they could put EVERYTHING on the line between SD and RAW...like the tag titles, US championship, IC title and the top titles. I don't really know why I just think it would be cool.
The biggest thing WWE needs to start doing is losing titles on the TV shows. I mean where Batista got the title for a week and losing it on RAW, I didn't see that coming at all. WWE needs that spontaneity to it. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? ![]() |
A few other thoughts/amendments to my earlier post:
The ECW champion would be Matt Hardy in which Vince basically tells Matt "IF you don't give me the title, then I'll strip your brother of his!" in which Matt will reluntantly give his up. That will really set him up as a sympathetic face. KOTR would be the classic KOTR match. I mean, all three promotions use to have old fashion tournaments. Winner would get the glory for his brand and a title shot for the world title in his brand. There would occasionally be drafts to mix things up. However, the titles would still stay on their respective brands at least for the first several years. The world titles and ladies/tag team/cruiserweight titles would never leave ship because it would be stupid to have the WCW world title on WWE television or the cruiserweight title on ECW when there aren't many cruiserweights. Initially, here are where a few of the wrestlers will be at: WCW - Flair, Jericho, Finley, Regal, Koji, WWE- Triple H, HBk, Undertaker, Cena ECW - Punk, RVD, Dreamer, Kane (because he fits best here), Batista (he'd be decent at hardcore matches) I was speaking idiomatically. |
Fuck, all WWE would have to do is make everything in ECW Hardcore rules.
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ECW is a failed experiment at this point and needs to be thrown out entirely. It will never live up to the legacy that the original had because it's being run by people that have no idea how to put together a show like that. The old ECW was rebellious, didn't rely on heavy special effects and retarded dramatic storylines, had better announcers, and was an overall quality promotion. It would have gone mainstream if Heyman didn't run it into the ground.
RAW and Smackdown are enough, but they need to distinguish each show as something unique rather than "the A show" and "the B show" as it stands. Wrestling as a whole also needs more Tony Schiavone. Most amazing jew boots |
I think ECW could be brought up, but the problem is, is that if I were running things, ECW would just be extremely hardcore and aside from the ECW title, I'd throw the hardcore title across all three brands WITH the 24/7 rule. Most amazing jew boots ![]() |
There is one thing it does have, which goes back to the "Internet Part"...more controversial storylines that can't be shown on normal television. It would be the wilder of the three, with a ton of brutality especially during the "Internet Hour".
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Or the hurricane to mighty molly to christian? That was crazy too. Most amazing jew boots ![]() |
Goodness, I watched when Yoko was champ. I'm just about up there Slash!
A few other isolated thoughts: Dreamer snapping would be good for Dreamer. They never went that route and it'd be something new. Wait, Morrison and Miz are the Raw tag team champs, yet they are STILL beating the guys on Smackdown!? Unless this is going towards a unification match, at LEAST have the Raw champs STAY ON RAW so you don't embarrass the tag team division further. even moreso, at least if you are going to have them be the TAG TEAM CHAMPS for the other brand, have them LOSE a SINGLES match. It won't kill them. And as I was looking over Dustin Rhodes history...I saw this... Rhodes returned to World Wrestling Entertainment on October 31, 2005 as Goldust, attacking Batista as retribution for being (kayfabe) electrocuted in 2003 and developing an embarassing stutter Continuity...in the WWE? This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
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