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[Movie] Heroes
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Inhert
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Old Dec 4, 2006, 10:13 PM #276 of 826
OMG!!!! this episode was so awesome!!!

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so now we know that it may be peter that will cause that explosion, the best bet, is that he got in contact with the nuclear man and couldn't control it and exploded.

I'm curious how all the character will be tie together at that scene, like I don't see connection with Nikki/Jessica, Maïca and his father with all the others... I really wonder how they will fit in the story.

I'm pretty sad that Eden died, but again with already knew someone would have, and she was the best bet we could have... I wonder how Sylar got his power back in that cell....

and apparently he figure out how others get they power by examining their brain and then altering his own DNA to be able to use them. (At least that's what I understood when Claire's father said that all the DNA alteration got to his head)

and now I'm really curious why the guy that can make people forget (sorry I don't know any other way how to name him XD) want Claire to know that's it's his father work that others forgot about her. He may not be as bad as I thought XD


really I doN,t know why but Claire is my favorite character, there's something I really like, her's story seem a little more develop than the others, well sure it his, since by saving her it's suppose to save the world XD but I really wonder how by saving her, it will save the world, what she will do to save it. I wonder why she said I'm sorry in the premonition, probably because she couldn't do anything and have to leave him... she's indeed invincible (well at least when she still have her brain intact XD) but how will this power save the world XD I wonder if she could survive that nuclear explosion with her power...

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Old Dec 4, 2006, 10:15 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 10:15 PM #277 of 826
I really liked the episode, but I didn't like

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The fact that they erased Zach's memory. I really liked the Hero/Sidekick relationship they had. But what exactly did the guy say to Claire...the way I took it, her dad would come home to think that Claire had her memory erased, but he wasn't going to for some reason. Maybe he's going to let Claire go because he knows she has to do stuff in which she has to know about her powers. I just hope in some turn of events, he makes Zach remember about Claire, I liked that duo. I guess I'm just a Claire/Zach fan...even though it's really unclear whether or not he came out to Claire before homecoming. But I'll only really argue that if anyone really cares.


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Old Dec 4, 2006, 10:30 PM #278 of 826
A nice twist at the end.

I guess the big question is:

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When did Peter come into contact with Theo Sprague? Peter was suffering from some kind of illness but it wasn't clear how he became ill. A sensible conclusion is that he got radiation poisoning, which could've come from being around Sprague. This would allow Peter to mimic Sprague's ability, yet lack the finesse to control it or control when it manifested. We've seen that Peter can sometimes exhibit the powers of others after their owners have left the area. Perhaps Peter's getting stronger and can retain these abilities longer?

Kudos to me for being right about Eden getting killed off by Sylar. Nice of her to blow her own brains out before Sylar could absorb her ability, though. That would've made Sylar too powerful.

However, it's looking like Mr. Bennet truly is the villain after all. Eden, knowing whatever she knew, chose to go behind his back and attempt to kill Sylar. This would be the nobler act. Mr. Bennet seems eager to keep Sylar alive for some nefarious, alternate agenda.
Even the Haitian Man chose to reveal a (unrevealed) secret to Claire, urging her to play along and pretend that he wiped her memory, when he will have done nothing of the sort. There's clearly a conflict of consciences and Mr. Bennet must have his hands in something pretty sinister for both Eden and the Haitian Man to secretly turn on him.

Hiro is evidently prophecizing his own future...past...well, whatever. The T-rex thing was funny, but especially after last week's comment about how he could travel too far and become lunch. He needs that sword for sure, especially since he was carrying one when he found Peter in the subway.

Speaking of which, Hiro mentioned that he didn't recognize Peter without a scar. Yet when we saw the dream sequence of Peter exploding, he didn't seem to have any scars. I also don't recall Hiro being present and accounted for when all the other Heroes were trying to get away from Peter before he exploded.
And that's weird, because Isaac Mendez was shown, with his girlfriend. Yet at the time of the detonation, as we saw before, Isaac was dead, his skull opened on the floor.
This leads me to believe that there could be multiple detonations. Nathan was shown getting near Peter right before the explosion, and we've seen how suddenly Nathan can spring into flight. My guess is that Nathan will zip Peter high above the skyscrapers, where Peter will fly upon his own and escape blowing up the city.

But if there's another explosion, perhaps that of Sylar finding himself unable to control the absorbed powers of Theo Sprague, Isaac shall have been slain by that point, keeping the timeline straight.

It's also interesting how the Haitian Man has two distinctly seperate powers: he can "wipe" peoples' memories; and he can act as a "buffer" that prevents others from using their own skills. Now that might be one ability that Peter can't mimic.

Regarding Niki: turning herself over to the police could potentially clear D.L.'s name. That's about the only upshot to her situation. I still think she's kind of dull, though.

Finally, one lingering question: who the fuck is this "Linderman" guy? He's been mentioned plenty of times, but his relevance to anything is completely up for grabs. He's obviously crucial to a rather important plot twist down the road, but how?

Gonna be a long month without any new episodes.


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Old Dec 4, 2006, 10:36 PM #279 of 826
I think theres a limit to how much peter can take in. He came into contact with so many heroes and he progressed to getting very ill. Still doesn't explain the dream though.

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Old Dec 4, 2006, 10:48 PM #280 of 826
Hiro was there in the premonition, I remember seeing him and his friend.

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and yeah I was thinking the same thing, about the scar whit Peter. I think they wanted to show us that premonition to think that it's peter that may be the cause of the explosion, but maybe Peter will indeed get the power of explosion or something and that probably most heroes will think that's it's him the cause, but I don't think it will be that big explosion. there some action that doesn't really match that new premonition with the future Hiro saw...

what bug me now is that Sylar really seem overpower, I wonder how they will make that he doesn't become too powerful, because for now I don't see anyone who could really stop him beside maybe Peter that could mimic his power, but then, we don't know if he could mimic all the power Sylar absorb.

Peter really seem to become more powerful now, and yeah he does seem to sustain the other power longer now, but why he have that premonition now...we saw that it's not the first time, but does he have 2 powers? one his the premonition and the other is to mimic others power...I think he's starting to loose control now and that may explain the premonition he got...

so much question and we have to wait now ; ;


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Old Dec 4, 2006, 11:01 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 10:01 PM #281 of 826
January 22nd seems so far away.

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I could care less about Lyle, but Zach... Man, I really like Zach. I'm kind of hoping that the Haitian can somehow restore memories, too. Zach is too good of a friend for Claire to just not have.

There's a lot of information to process, so I won't regurgitate what others have said. Instead, I'll mention a tiny little fact the Haitian mentioned to Claire that no one's touched on: Mr. Bennet's used the Haitian to wipe his wife's memory quite a number of times. If that doesn't somehow spell "sinister," I don't know what else does.


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Old Dec 4, 2006, 11:09 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 09:09 PM #282 of 826
As already said, LOL at end.

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Peter: "Kaio Ken times 42!"


Can't wait for the return. Too bad it's on Mondays. :/

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Old Dec 4, 2006, 11:35 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 10:35 PM #283 of 826
Originally Posted by nazpyro
Can't wait for the return. Too bad it's on Mondays. :/
Haha, truth. If this was going against almost any other show I'd probably it, but not when it's up against 24.

And of note, this episode was pretty good in regards to getting getting a good amount time in with all the heroes (I guess it helped that they had a lot of scenes together).

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Old Dec 5, 2006, 12:38 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2006, 12:38 AM #284 of 826
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I don't know how I feel about the whole path they are going with Hiro and the mysterious sword. It really feels like some typically video-game/anime-esque plot to get the mythic sword then save the world. I mean the premise so far is that people develop powers and try to save the world, but the sword part isn't really warming up to me yet. Maybe it will be good, but right now, not liking it.


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Old Dec 5, 2006, 01:18 AM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 10:18 PM #285 of 826
There was a preview during the credits after tonight's episode, anyone have a video file of that, along with screenshots of the black and white photos so we can examine them, since its a long wait till the next episode?

Edit: Found it on youtube! Spoilers for next year's episode!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfdMc7PgwPM&eurl=

Images flash too fast at the end, if anyone has the HQ version and has a way to slow mo it and take shots, that will be awesome.

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Old Dec 5, 2006, 01:39 AM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 11:39 PM #286 of 826
Wow, very good episode. Wasn't really expecting that ending.

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I was expecting the nuclear guy to go boom, not Peter. I really like Peter so I hope that it either does not happen or that if it does, as unlikely as it is, that he survives. But I don't see how anyone, gifted or not, could survive their own body exploding like a nuclear bomb.

Also, did Peter jump through time like Hiro or was this another premonition like he had when he dreamed about his brother in the previous episode? It really doesn't look like a Hiro time jump. So does Peter have more than one power or some kind of link to hsi brother like it has been sugested? His brother is ALWAYS there when he does this.


Originally Posted by ArchesFan
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I don't know how I feel about the whole path they are going with Hiro and the mysterious sword. It really feels like some typically video-game/anime-esque plot to get the mythic sword then save the world. I mean the premise so far is that people develop powers and try to save the world, but the sword part isn't really warming up to me yet. Maybe it will be good, but right now, not liking it.
I think it has more to do with Hiro's character. He is pretty much your stereotypical nerdy, video game playing, comic book reading, sci-fi obsessed young adult. That whole bit with his sword fits with that and is something he would probably try to do. I mean, have you read his blog? Everything is Final Fantasy or Chrono trigger to him.

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Old Dec 5, 2006, 02:03 AM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 11:03 PM #287 of 826
Regarding Peter..

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There are theories where fans speculate that Peter dream himself in the position of another Hero, instead of himself, as past dreams seem to indicate, EG when he first dreamt of Nathan flying. In other words it may not be Peter who explodes. Though this will make us wonder why Claire looked at him like that if it wasn't Peter...


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Old Dec 5, 2006, 03:17 AM Local time: Dec 5, 2006, 12:17 AM #288 of 826
Man, this show kicks so much ass. Every time I watch it, it gets better and better.

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Anyone else notice when Mr Bennet was in the car talking to Claire, if you looked at the rear view mirror, there was a mirror image of Mr Bennet, but he had dark sunglasses on and looked very, very evil


Double Post:
Argh! So many questions...

Spoiler:
Why was Peter getting progressively sick the more this last episode went on? He seemed to be getting very pale and then he passed out? What or who could be causing this? Perhaps an overload of too many powers?


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Old Dec 5, 2006, 09:01 PM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 02:01 AM #289 of 826
Originally Posted by Ken Hikari

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Why was Peter getting progressively sick the more this last episode went on? He seemed to be getting very pale and then he passed out? What or who could be causing this? Perhaps an overload of too many powers?
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I think he must of been kept in the same cell, and interview room as the radiation guy. Remember when the cops came to the house they had to quickly leave because of the radiation levels. We don't know how long the radiation guy was held for in jail. And Peter seemed to get worse when Claire and her dad came in, he would of been able to heal himself if it had not been for the Haitian.

Yeh I noticed the way Claire looked at him too, everyone else ran away but Nathan didn't seem concerned at all!?! Maybe if Peter stays with Claire he wont explode, just implode lol.

Maybe when all the heroes gang together Peter will go into overload. I can't remember a time when he has been with more than one hero.

I have no idea where they are going with the nikki story, even this episode progressed no further than the last episode.
Oh yeh and what exactly is turning herself going to do??? As soon as she turns back into Jessica, she will go on a killing spree. She should of just got a plane ticket and moved to iceland.

I can't wait to see Hiro fight a T-Rex, I suspecting that he will have a Groundhog Day experience, everytime he gets killed he wakes up to fight it again, like a continue coin in an arcade game. He will slowly master it, and become one bad ass ninja/samurai
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Old Dec 5, 2006, 09:27 PM Local time: Dec 5, 2006, 08:27 PM #290 of 826
Originally Posted by The Furious One
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Maybe when all the heroes gang together Peter will go into overload. I can't remember a time when he has been with more than one hero.
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It doesn't seem very realistic to have him explode because of an overabundance of powers to draw from, though.


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Old Dec 5, 2006, 10:45 PM Local time: Dec 5, 2006, 10:45 PM #291 of 826
It's pretty simple to figure out as to why Sylar regained his powers in that room, in fact, I can't believe Bennet didn't prevent something llike this from happening.

He knows how things work, simple as that, he figured out, somehow, how the room itself worked and figured out a way to get past it, at least that's the only way I can think of on how he got his powers back.

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Old Dec 6, 2006, 05:09 AM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 10:09 AM #292 of 826
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If you go by the sylar theory that Bennett had of changing his DNA. The process could exspell atlot of energy, as his body and mind change.

Sylar broke out simple cos the Hiatian was with Claire not with Edan when she entered the room. I bet everytime someone entered the room, he tried using his power, this time he noticed something different. Remember when he was first put in there, he walked around the room scanning it, he found the weakest point it was the glass.
She obviously did not tell Bennett, Sylar had started to figure out her power that why it wasnt working when she commanded it.

Found it really dumb she didnt just command him straight away, she had to tell the whole story...lame (like the bad guy tell the good guy the evil plot, giving him enough time to escape and stop it).


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Old Dec 6, 2006, 09:53 AM #293 of 826
The last episode was a good one. I think I've said that about every episode. XD I like the theories going around.

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Old Dec 6, 2006, 10:54 AM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 10:54 AM #294 of 826
You know, everyone is pegging Bennet as a bad guy, and I don't really understand why. I mean, there are a lot of things that point to that, really, but also you have to understand that his job is of complete secrecy.

I wouldn't go so far as to say he's working for the government, but obviously he's working for someone because of the fact he didn't have Sylar killed on the spot. The threats to Claire obviously effected him, you could see he wanted Sylar dead, but the big boss wants Sylar alive, Bennet has to comply. He does have a family to support after all.

As for the Haitian wiping his wife's memory all the time, it's probably just to protect her. Hell, Tommy Lee Jones in Men in Black explained it well enough, people take comfort in not knowing anything :P

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Old Dec 6, 2006, 12:52 PM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 05:52 PM #295 of 826
Sneaky suspision that the boss will be Linderman.

I like how his cover is Primatech Paper Company, do we know if Linderman is associated with it??

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Old Dec 6, 2006, 12:54 PM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 12:54 PM #296 of 826
I'm pretty sure Linderman is the boss, he seems to be connected to most of the Heroes in some way or another.

Somehow I doubt Primatech Paper is even a company, if it is though, they sure are doing a hell of a lot more than making paper plates :P

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Old Dec 7, 2006, 06:13 AM Local time: Dec 7, 2006, 11:13 AM #297 of 826
Zach aka Thomas Dekker will be cast as John Connor in Fox's drama pilot " The Sarah Connor Chronicles"

Show takes place after the events of T2, and the story follows Sarah Connor (Lena Heady) and her son John (Dekker).

I'm not liking the title, but shall see how the pilot goes.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=17873

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Old Dec 7, 2006, 02:09 PM Local time: Dec 7, 2006, 02:09 PM #298 of 826
I hope I'm not the only one who thinks thats a bad idea for a TV show.

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Old Dec 7, 2006, 02:44 PM Local time: Dec 7, 2006, 02:44 PM #299 of 826
Anything after T2 was a bad idea.

Anyways, E! reported on the fact Nathan was the only one walking towards Peter in that dream sequence, so I guess that must have a huge impact on one of the upcoming episodes.

So, am I the only one still convinced that Nathan will continue to be a good guy, and that Mr. Bennet isn't evil at all, just taking orders from a higher up? I mean he seems to have a vigilante approach to people who are assholes from the latest webcomic about reporting Eden's death to her father, so I think that's what his whole deal is...I think he just punishes assholes in a very mean way, that's the only thing that I could see making him bad but hey, you'd be on edge if a co-worker that was close to you was killed, right?

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Old Dec 7, 2006, 03:15 PM Local time: Dec 7, 2006, 08:15 PM #300 of 826
Don't think Bennett is 'evil' just the end justifies the means.

If you watch it again, the asian guy (forgot his name) steps out the car smiling, then he looks down in horror and runs. Its the same with everyone except Nathan and Hiro (who turns away looking sad) Claire mouthes out the words "I'm Sorry".
I think Nathan stands next to him so that Peter can use his power to fly away.

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