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[DS] Universal DS Homebrew thread. Fucking cheapskates.
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Old Apr 4, 2008, 07:06 PM Local time: Apr 4, 2008, 06:06 PM #276 of 515
Yeah, from the comments it seems it's still not clear. One poster claimed that work on a un-dub patch was halted because patching the game triggered the same behavior, even on the CycloDS.

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Old Apr 4, 2008, 07:26 PM Local time: Apr 4, 2008, 06:26 PM #277 of 515
It was something about the carts not sending enough junk data to fool the DS. The Nintendo DS has a 4 microsecond response time to discern whether or not you are playing a real game or a rom. Some devices were unable to send enough junk data to trick the 4 microsecond response time, and some were sending it improperly, which led them to the Moogle Screen of Death.

An Action Replay code was released that fixed that problem entirely, and later an IPSPatch come out, and then finally firmware updates.

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Old Apr 15, 2008, 02:53 AM #278 of 515
Thread bumpage.

So I'm considering getting a Slot-2 card so I could finally stop complaining to myself about GBA games I've never played before. Can anyone recommend a good one? I'd look at the first post but...

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Old Apr 20, 2008, 02:07 AM Local time: Apr 20, 2008, 02:07 AM #279 of 515
Thread bumpage.

So I'm considering getting a Slot-2 card so I could finally stop complaining to myself about GBA games I've never played before. Can anyone recommend a good one? I'd look at the first post but...

Likewise, but for NES and SNES support as well. I'm not sure if the M3 Lite Pro is what I need, but I've got the M3 Simply....gonna try to read up on it.

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Old Apr 28, 2008, 11:28 PM Local time: Apr 28, 2008, 10:28 PM #280 of 515
I recommend the EZFlash 3-in-1. Carts like the eWin/M3 Real GBA expansion also work great, but from what I understand lack non-volatile memory, meaning you'll have to re-flash the ROM every time you reset the DS. Whereas with the EZFlash, you can burn a game to non-volatile NOR memory, at which point the cart acts *exactly* like a regular GBA cart, meaning you can use it for GBA-DS connectivity, and (if you get the GBA-size version) even stick it in a DS fat, GBA, or GBA Player.

I would not recommend the M3 Lite Pro, as it will not hold big games like Kingdom Hearts and Riviera. The M3 Lite Perfect will satisfy all your GBA needs, but is a bit overkill if you already have a Slot-1. Both carts are primarily for playing NDS games, for people who don't have/want a Slot-1 for whatever reason. And even then you miss out on the rumble/RAM features you'd get from the 3-in-1.

Edit: Also, while the CycloDS Evolution is still an excellent card with great support, it's not the undisputed king of Slot-1 anymore like it was less than a year ago. It's hard to go wrong with any of the current gen cards like the SuperCard DS One, Acekard RPG, M3DS Real, TTDS, etc., some of which you can find for half the price of an Evolution. Again, it comes down to secondary features like loading times, GUIs, support, etc. and which of those are important to you.

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Old Apr 29, 2008, 01:18 AM Local time: Apr 29, 2008, 01:18 AM #281 of 515
I can't just buy the Real's Slot-2 device by itself as all they said was "hurr hurr you get both of these, fuck your Simply."

Seriously.

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Old Apr 29, 2008, 03:26 PM Local time: Apr 29, 2008, 02:26 PM #282 of 515
Ha, yeah, well the Real's expansions are pretty much identical to the one's made by eWin, which work with any Slot-1 with DLDI.

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Old May 11, 2008, 05:31 AM Local time: May 11, 2008, 06:31 PM #283 of 515
I have an M3DS Real, and I was trying to run Colors. So since this cart has auto DLDI patching, I didn't bother patching the .nds file. But when I run it, it asks me to choose a slot, Slot 1 or Slot 2, then after choosing Slot 1, all I get is a black screen.

Am I doing something wrong?

EDIT: Nevermind, I got it working.

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Old May 16, 2008, 11:57 PM #284 of 515
I've noticed a lot of people suggesting getting microSD cards that are made in Japan. Does it really matter that much?

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Old May 17, 2008, 04:14 PM Local time: May 17, 2008, 02:14 PM #285 of 515
From what I've read, some of the cheaper cards like SanDisk have slower read rates than what is necessary for a DS game. The Castlevania games are the particular culprits. They will freeze up in the opening movie, and in some in game animations.

And I can believe that, even though I haven't played a ROM of the games. I have an original Portrait of Ruin, and even it gets slowdown when I pull off certain moves.
I bought the Adata 4 gig card from Newegg for $20. Best buy didn't have anything close to decent brands or decent prices, and that was the best online deal I could find.
I would've liked to pick up an 8 gig, but they cost more than the CycloDS, running about 80-90.

Annnnyways, I finally got a CycloDS. I haven't had anybody to test download play with yet, but I haven't had ANY problems playing games and online play works good.
I downloaded lameboy and ran a few games on it. Some don't work that great, but it's decent.
I like DS organize, and the IRC client it has is spunky. Too bad I don't take my DS everywhere.
Also tried out SnemulDS, and nothing seemed to work right. Has anybody had much luck with the SNES emulators?

I plan on picking up a 3-in-1 for my DS Fat soon enough, so I can play GBA games.

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Old May 17, 2008, 08:45 PM #286 of 515
SNES emulation is still in early development at best. Very few games run well through it on an NDS. Generally, the mentality is get a PSP or GP2X if you want to go for portable emulation...

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Old May 18, 2008, 02:23 AM Local time: May 18, 2008, 01:23 AM #287 of 515
Yeah, you can get slightly better performance with the RAM expansion, but at this point it's not really worth the trouble for most games.

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Old May 18, 2008, 12:29 PM #288 of 515
From what I've read, some of the cheaper cards like SanDisk have slower read rates than what is necessary for a DS game. The Castlevania games are the particular culprits. They will freeze up in the opening movie, and in some in game animations.

And I can believe that, even though I haven't played a ROM of the games. I have an original Portrait of Ruin, and even it gets slowdown when I pull off certain moves.
I bought the Adata 4 gig card from Newegg for $20. Best buy didn't have anything close to decent brands or decent prices, and that was the best online deal I could find.
I would've liked to pick up an 8 gig, but they cost more than the CycloDS, running about 80-90.

Annnnyways, I finally got a CycloDS. I haven't had anybody to test download play with yet, but I haven't had ANY problems playing games and online play works good.
I downloaded lameboy and ran a few games on it. Some don't work that great, but it's decent.
I like DS organize, and the IRC client it has is spunky. Too bad I don't take my DS everywhere.
Also tried out SnemulDS, and nothing seemed to work right. Has anybody had much luck with the SNES emulators?

I plan on picking up a 3-in-1 for my DS Fat soon enough, so I can play GBA games.
Any suggestions where to buy the CycloDS?

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Old May 19, 2008, 08:49 PM Local time: May 19, 2008, 06:49 PM #289 of 515
I bought from kickgaming.com and RealHotStuff and had positive experiences with both. Canadapost sucks major nut, though.

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Old May 20, 2008, 06:11 PM Local time: May 20, 2008, 06:11 PM #290 of 515
SNES emulation is still in early development at best. Very few games run well through it on an NDS. Generally, the mentality is get a PSP or GP2X if you want to go for portable emulation...
I fail to see why as the GBA ran SNES games on it and that the DS can do the same and more. Otherwise, I'll just have to look into homebrew emulators to run on the Slot-1 card and just hope for the best...

Still nothing really useful that I've seen as far as being able to purchase a Slot-2 device alone for compatibility with my M3 Simply.

Fucking M3 still refuses to sell the Slot-2 devices separately, which doesn't seem wise. Whatever.

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Old May 20, 2008, 06:15 PM #291 of 515
I fail to see why as the GBA ran SNES games on it and that the DS can do the same and more. Otherwise, I'll just have to look into homebrew emulators to run on the Slot-1 card and just hope for the best...

Still nothing really useful that I've seen as far as being able to purchase a Slot-2 device alone for compatibility with my M3 Simply.

Fucking M3 still refuses to sell the Slot-2 devices separately, which doesn't seem wise. Whatever.
Just seems to be how it is. I know it is BETTER than the GBA regarding emulation but unless there have been some major break throughs (which may have happened in the last few months), it seemed that emulation was still very much in development concerning the SNES.

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Old May 21, 2008, 12:24 AM #292 of 515
I fail to see why as the GBA ran SNES games on it and that the DS can do the same and more. Otherwise, I'll just have to look into homebrew emulators to run on the Slot-1 card and just hope for the best...
Hell, the DS can't even emulate GBA games from Slot 1.

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Old May 21, 2008, 12:36 AM Local time: May 21, 2008, 12:36 AM #293 of 515
Aside from, you know, Slot-2 doing that.

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Old May 21, 2008, 05:14 AM Local time: May 21, 2008, 04:14 AM #294 of 515
Still nothing really useful that I've seen as far as being able to purchase a Slot-2 device alone for compatibility with my M3 Simply.

Fucking M3 still refuses to sell the Slot-2 devices separately, which doesn't seem wise. Whatever.
Well you can buy the expansions separately, but I'm pretty sure they're just clones of the eWin expansions. Doesn't really matter which one you get though, Rudolph's GBA ExpLoader homebrew will work with both.

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Old May 21, 2008, 07:08 AM Local time: May 21, 2008, 01:08 PM #295 of 515
Well you can buy the expansions separately, but I'm pretty sure they're just clones of the eWin expansions. Doesn't really matter which one you get though, Rudolph's GBA ExpLoader homebrew will work with both.
Do any of them have RTC support?

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Old May 21, 2008, 07:23 AM Local time: May 21, 2008, 06:23 AM #296 of 515
Unfortunately no, I believe you'll still have to patch the Pokemon games to get around that. The M3 Lite/Perfect is the only device with RTC support to my knowledge.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 04:37 PM #297 of 515
On the topic of Slot-2 devices, I'm curious about something.

First off, does the device itself hold the GBA games, or are they held on the Slot-1's memory? In the case that they're held on the slot-2, will it hold more than one at a time?

And finally, let's say I load Pokemon Emerald [for example] onto the slot-2 device, can I use it with Pokemon DP's 'Pal Park' function, or will it even read?

Also, any suggestions for devices? I'm currently looking at the M3 set with the GBA/Rumble device, and the CycloDS + EZFlash V, but I'm not sure if there's anything better out there.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 05:05 PM Local time: Jun 17, 2008, 05:05 PM #298 of 515
Pal Park works with Slot 1 devices in that it is successfully able to transfer the pokemon.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 05:55 PM Local time: Jun 17, 2008, 04:55 PM #299 of 515
In the case of the M3DS Real and CycloDS Evo, the GBA games will be on your Slot-1, and you can put as many on it as you want (I think). The main function of a Slot-2 device is to copy a single game from your Slot-1 to its local memory and run it in GBA mode. If you want to play another game, you will have to overwrite the Slot-2 memory (saves are stored on the Slot-1 so you don't have to worry).

Most Slot-2 devices support DS-GBA connectivity, although in slightly different ways. If you get a 3-in-1, you can flash the game to non-volatile NOR memory and it will function like the original cart for any connectivity features. If you use the M3DS Real or eWin expansions, the process involves using the soft-reset feature so that the game stays in memory.

In other news, firmware 1.4 beta 3 just came out for the Evo. GBA autopatching was added, which means that you can now run clean ROMs straight from the menu without any need for 3rd party homebrew. \m/

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 05:59 PM #300 of 515
Thanks for the info, Dhsu. The GBA connectivity was just what I was looking for.

I'm thinking I'm gonna go with the Evo. I did some reading on the different carts, and it's looking like the best one, with the new Beta firmwares they're putting out. The only downside I think would be the price, and having to buy the 3-in-1 separately. Ah well.

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