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[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:35 PM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 08:35 AM #276 of 3592
Originally Posted by Qwarky
Ahahaha

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:46 PM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 03:46 PM #277 of 3592
I like how PS3 is now region-free.

So like, I'll be playing ZUPR KAWAII~ puzzles when IT COMES OUT! But really, region-free sounds good. Real good.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:49 PM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 03:49 PM #278 of 3592
Yeah, now I can play all those budget Mahjong games I've been missing. Oh wait, I don't know how to play!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:51 PM #279 of 3592
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:55 PM #280 of 3592
Region Free would be the greatest thing to happen to PS3. Now I don't care if it costs even $900 (yes I do)

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:14 PM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 03:14 PM #281 of 3592
Originally Posted by LivingDreams
Haha, yes because every game engine out there will have things like soft self-shadowing, HDR and bloom. I'm sure there are lots of games that use simpler graphics by nature (Guilty Gear, NIS games anyone?) that will be using 1080p and look awesome doing so.

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:17 PM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 01:17 AM #282 of 3592
ok, people have only been waiting for this to become standard for like 20 years now.

"Hey why doesn't Super Metroid fit in my SNES?!"

"You have to buy a converter for imported games to work."

"*mad* ...well ok."

"Hey! why doesn't Super Mario RPG work even if I use my converter?!"

"Oh, you have to buy another type of converter for that game to work"

"*WHAT THE...!*"


So it's about damn time. Hopefully this will become the standard for consoles now. And now all Sony has to do is to force developers to add widescreen options as well as, for versions released in PAL territories, 60hz options and they'll atleast have (what should be basic obviousness') covered.

I don't understand how even highly anticipated titles like FFXII can still lack widescreen options. How hard can it be to add that, really.

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:21 PM #283 of 3592
The only question now is if developers will go out of their way to include multiple languages and subtitles for anyone who will import. I don't expect this practice to occur in, say, Pachinko Dreams Kawaii Densetsu 2007.

That aside, I doubt it would become a standard. What would stop people from importing FFXIII if it has english text? It could hurt US sales from those who refuse to wait. This COULD mean more games that will hit both Japan and the US simultaneously, but I doubt it.

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:30 PM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 10:00 AM #284 of 3592
This is awsome that the PS3 is now region free. Although the main reason I think behind Sony doing it was so they could crack down on modchips. They were ruled legal in Australia due to the region locks. This is great for all those who do buy imports, but bad for the rest, though I don't see Sony doing anything with the main problem which is in China, since well....what do they care.

And I don't see publishers going out to release games with translations on them just because of this, especially in the Japanese market. A few would import from that market but that number is extremely minor. The greatest effect this would have is probably the European market, where games are usually delayed forever due to translations of 5+ languages, but now people who understand English can import from the US.

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:31 PM #285 of 3592
Of course they wouldn't. They could literally make twice the cash without changing a thing.

I mean, look at FFXII. 90% of you nerds would buy both the Jap and US versions. Don't lie.

It's also cool how no game on PS3 will run at 1080p.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:57 PM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 07:57 PM #286 of 3592
Thumbs up

The whole 1080p possibilities with the PS3 was brought to light when Kikizo had thier hands on exclusive a month back I believe. As for region free, now the icing on the cake would be if Hollywood agrees to region free as well. I'm tired of having poorly done R3 - R1 discs.

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 08:09 PM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 03:09 AM #287 of 3592
Originally Posted by Megalith
Of course they wouldn't. They could literally make twice the cash without changing a thing.

I mean, look at FFXII. 90% of you nerds would buy both the Jap and US versions. Don't lie.

It's also cool how no game on PS3 will run at 1080p.
Overlooking the fact that... Oh nevermind your Megalith sorry for almost taking you seriously there, wont repeat it.

T1249NTSCJ:

There is no way Hollywood would give up the control these region locks have given them.

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 08:30 PM #288 of 3592
I wonder if Gamestop will add an import section in their stores? It would be nice, as long as

A) they don't charge extra for the games (10-20$ more).

B) there aren't too many retards who can't comprehend it ("I bought this game for my son, and it's in japanese!")

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 11:42 PM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 11:42 PM #289 of 3592
Since importing isn't mainstream, and it'll be something exclusive to the PS2, don't count on it Soldier. The store I work at is huge, and we wouldn't even have any room for a PS3 import section.

Come to think of it, I wonder what's going to happen when we add the two new sections....

I'm happy about this region-free stuff though. Now I can import Namco x Capcom if it came out in Europe and Rogue Galaxy if it doesn't come to the States.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Mar 24, 2006, 12:21 AM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 10:21 PM #290 of 3592
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
The only question now is if developers will go out of their way to include multiple languages and subtitles for anyone who will import. I don't expect this practice to occur in, say, Pachinko Dreams Kawaii Densetsu 2007.

That aside, I doubt it would become a standard. What would stop people from importing FFXIII if it has english text? It could hurt US sales from those who refuse to wait. This COULD mean more games that will hit both Japan and the US simultaneously, but I doubt it.
Really either way you pay for a copy of the game, so both the publisher and Sony make some money. Now if the region you live in had a different publisher or distributor, then you'd be costing them money. Sony and other game companies would be wise to open up their own import sites so they can make the hell loads of money import shops make (like $87USD for a Japanese copy of FFXII).

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Old Mar 24, 2006, 02:11 AM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 01:11 AM #291 of 3592
Originally Posted by SouthJag
I'm happy about this region-free stuff though. Now I can import Namco x Capcom if it came out in Europe and Rogue Galaxy if it doesn't come to the States.
Aren't the PS2 games are still region locked though? So your PS3 wouldn't be able to play them, I'd think.

Ahh, I really like this region free thing. As for translations/re-releases, well they wouldn't necessarily have to re-release games. Instead they could probably make the importers pay a fee to download a patch, on to the HDD, that'll switch/add in english translation. Probably cheaper for both sides.

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Old Mar 24, 2006, 02:57 AM #292 of 3592
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Since importing isn't mainstream, and it'll be something exclusive to the PS2, don't count on it Soldier.
I thought it was the PS3 games that were region-free? Has there been a clear explanation on what is region-free? The best case scenario is PS3, PS2, PS1, and even DVD movies. That would rock.

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Come to think of it, I wonder what's going to happen when we add the two new sections....
Make the store bigger.

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Old Mar 24, 2006, 06:49 AM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 12:49 PM #293 of 3592
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
I thought it was the PS3 games that were region-free? Has there been a clear explanation on what is region-free? The best case scenario is PS3, PS2, PS1, and even DVD movies. That would rock.



Make the store bigger.

Only the PS3 games will be region free, DVD's will be region locked.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 24, 2006, 09:29 AM #294 of 3592
Blu-Ray discs, as well, will be region locked. This isn't retroactive, but on the bright side, Japan and the U.S. are in the same region according to the Blu-Ray specs floating around.

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Old Mar 24, 2006, 10:25 AM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 10:25 AM #295 of 3592
I thought Europe was also included in the same region? I was under the impression that, for the most part, PAL and NTSC were combined into Region 1.

Poor India was, however, left out. At least to my knowledge.

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Old Mar 24, 2006, 11:23 AM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 06:23 PM #296 of 3592
You've mixed up Blu-Ray and DVD region codes. Blu-Ray region 1 is USA and Japan, DVD region 2 is Europe and Japan.

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Old Mar 24, 2006, 04:45 PM #297 of 3592
What? Japane's in two regions?

Also, this was never confirmed, does region free games mean that import PS1 & PS2 games will work as well? Or is it just for PS3 games?

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Old Mar 24, 2006, 08:10 PM #298 of 3592
The PS3 hardware itself, is region-free. Publishers can still region-code their games to prevent them from playing on machines in other areas, but that'll be due to their software solution and not the machine itself.

This is not retroactive, so PS1/PS2 games are still region locked.

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Old Mar 25, 2006, 12:34 AM Local time: Mar 24, 2006, 10:34 PM #299 of 3592
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
The PS3 hardware itself, is region-free. Publishers can still region-code their games to prevent them from playing on machines in other areas, but that'll be due to their software solution and not the machine itself.

This is not retroactive, so PS1/PS2 games are still region locked.
About PS1/PS2 imports: Can you confirm this?
So they are going to put region reading hardware in the PS3. Most likely, only games that will be released in the US will get any region coding.
Why would some obscure Japanese dev care about his game going to the US?

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Old Mar 25, 2006, 03:50 AM #300 of 3592
Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
About PS1/PS2 imports: Can you confirm this?
So they are going to put region reading hardware in the PS3. Most likely, only games that will be released in the US will get any region coding.
Why would some obscure Japanese dev care about his game going to the US?
PS1/PS2 games are still region locked and given Sony's comments about how BC is achieves (having the Dragon chip, EE+GS, in the machine as well as software emulation) pretty much kicks this one out the door. These games will still be locked, because of the presence of the PS2 hardware in there, and if not, by software means.

The PS3, according to this, has no region locking feature in the hardware and so it's up to publishers if they want to lock their games via software means.

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