[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

Just run the component cables and don't change anything, that's default 480i, it may not be HD, however it is the best picture you can get on SDTV because the colour seperation and things of that sort are improved well over that of composit.

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That's the thing -- 480i made my screen's image get all..."squished" so I switched back. I played the GTHD demo, and everything was gigantic and fairly unappealing to look at.

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Is it a wide screen? Cause if so there's many zoom and aspect ratio settings on wide screen TVs that might just need to be played around with a bit. Though Metal would oribable know more then I if that is the case.

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Originally Posted by SouthJag

That's the thing -- 480i made my screen's image get all..."squished" so I switched back. I played the GTHD demo, and everything was gigantic and fairly unappealing to look at.

Squished as in "squat" or "thin"? The former would mean that the PS3 is outputting a 4:3 and your set is simply applying the "Wide" or normal 16:9 aspect ratio it has. The latter (which I believe is the case, since you mentioned you didn't have an HDTV) is what happens when you give a 4:3 television a 16:9 resolution.

GTHD, eh? Make sure you set the aspect ratio to 4:3 along with setting the resolution along with it (480i is a 4:3 res, 640x480 IIRC). If you want a comparable change, raise your resolution to 1600x1200 and then drop it to 800x600. Everything suddenly balloons in size and becomes... unappealing to look at.

What resolution were you running at with the S-video cables anyway?

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It was vertically squished -- everything looking taller and thinner. In GTHD, it made everything zoomed in, which was weird. The menu that opens up for the player to select manual or automatic transmission, change the tires and start the race was gigantic; almost took up the whole screen.

I'll go back and try again, but I'm fairly certain I set the aspect ratio to 4:3, as I don't have a widescreen monitor, obviously.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by SouthJag

It was vertically squished -- everything looking taller and thinner. In GTHD, it made everything zoomed in, which was weird. The menu that opens up for the player to select manual or automatic transmission, change the tires and start the race was gigantic; almost took up the whole screen.

I'll go back and try again, but I'm fairly certain I set the aspect ratio to 4:3, as I don't have a widescreen monitor, obviously.

Yeah, set the aspect ratio to 4:3, resolution to 480i and see what happens. Either the PS3 or the game itself is forcing the demo to display in 16:9 (hence, the "thinner" look).

It's possible the huge menus and so on are related to the aspect ratio being out of whack.

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Okay, I tried it again. So now I have a question -- the PS3 gives me two options, both of which work. One is to select the connection type, being either AV Multi Out using the component inputs, and the other option was component cables in the component inputs. I know it sounds weird and confusing, and it kinda is.

Anyway, the former option doesn't give me the choice for 480p, so I went with the latter option. But when I try it, my screen goes fuzzy and scrolls up and down rapidly, denoting an obvious distaste for a 480p resolution.

Does my TV suck?

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Originally Posted by SouthJag

Okay, I tried it again. So now I have a question -- the PS3 gives me two options, both of which work. One is to select the connection type, being either AV Multi Out using the component inputs, and the other option was component cables in the component inputs. I know it sounds weird and confusing, and it kinda is.

Anyway, the former option doesn't give me the choice for 480p, so I went with the latter option. But when I try it, my screen goes fuzzy and scrolls up and down rapidly, denoting an obvious distaste for a 480p resolution.

Does my TV suck?

No, it's just not a digital television, that's all. Stick with the first one, as the second one seems like it's trying to display/force 480p when your TV doesn't support it. So, the other option fixed things up?

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Well now I've got it working, and it appears to be displaying in 480p.

The final problem is this: when I select 480p in the display menu under the Component Cable connection, it still gives me a fuzzy screen. If I leave it at the Standard NTSC selection, it's cool. So it's like it's displaying 480p without the PS3 recognizing/forcing/whatevering. So sup? I'm going to leave it as it is though, because it's clearly better than standard. Text is easier to read and the MotorStorm demo looks much nicer, as does the GTHD demo. So...s'all good, regardless.

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Originally Posted by SouthJag

Well now I've got it working, and it appears to be displaying in 480p.

If your television is a regular CRT set, it's display 480i. If you've ever tried to a game @ 480p on a normal set, it simply doesn't show it/gets all mangled.

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The final problem is this: when I select 480p in the display menu under the Component Cable connection, it still gives me a fuzzy screen. If I leave it at the Standard NTSC selection, it's cool. So it's like it's displaying 480p without the PS3 recognizing/forcing/whatevering. So sup? I'm going to leave it as it is though, because it's clearly better than standard. Text is easier to read and the MotorStorm demo looks much nicer, as does the GTHD demo. So...s'all good, regardless.

Standard NTSC = 480i. Those improvements are due to the cables, as we'd mentioned before, there would be a noticeable improvement in the image in various ways. So, everything's all good?

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I guess so then. I didn't think the cables would make that much of a difference (plus I hadn't noted that option, and I don't recall seeing it in the thread. Oh well.) but apparently they have. So, 480i it is then, but it's still quite an improvement.

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Anything is better than composite cords. I seriously wonder why they even package their consoles with them, and then I remember some people really do have such horrible televisions that they can't accept anything better.

We should all have a moment of silence for these people who can't afford to spend even $200 on a new tv that at least has a single s-video or component slot.

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Originally Posted by Forsety

Anything is better than composite cords. I seriously wonder why they even package their consoles with them, and then I remember some people really do have such horrible televisions that they can't accept anything better.

We should all have a moment of silence for these people who can't afford to spend even $200 on a new tv that at least has a single s-video or component slot.

For some people, it's simply not worth 200$ to have your games look slightly better on television. If you already have a suitable television for your needs, why spend 200$ when you can just use composite? This is just an incredibly boneheaded assumption by you that everyone who wants to play a video game system should go out and buy a new television. Composite cables don't look perfect by any means, but they look good enough when you're not playing on a 30"+ TV (and considering probably about 90% of college students don't have TVs that size in their room, that makes up a pretty large portion of the market.)

With my Dell 2405fpw I'm happily not included in this group, but to say that they can't afford a good TV simply because they choose not to buy one is a ridiculous generalization.

I was speaking idiomatically.

anys opinion here.

Should I get a PC?
because theoretically I can download all my games.
or should I get a PS3?
which would cost a hell of a lot less then a computer capable of outputting the same levels of graphics.

pc games, console games. both are good to me.

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Now a days there are about 10 console games per each PC game, and that's not even exclusive PC games which is why I stopped bothering with PC gaming and now just simply buy the 3 major consoles on the market for about the same price a new PC would.

Also if you get the PS3 you can install Linux on it, after which point you can do word processing and whatever else you could do on a new PC, and it'll still be able to play PS3 games. Therefore for the price difference that you pointed out as far as I'm concerned the PC right now is just an over expensive piece of hardware that's been bettered by Sony.

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Originally Posted by quazi

For some people, it's simply not worth 200$ to have your games look slightly better on television. If you already have a suitable television for your needs, why spend 200$ when you can just use composite? This is just an incredibly boneheaded assumption by you that everyone who wants to play a video game system should go out and buy a new television. Composite cables don't look perfect by any means, but they look good enough when you're not playing on a 30"+ TV (and considering probably about 90% of college students don't have TVs that size in their room, that makes up a pretty large portion of the market.)

With my Dell 2405fpw I'm happily not included in this group, but to say that they can't afford a good TV simply because they choose not to buy one is a ridiculous generalization.

Any TV made in the 90s will have a s-video slot or maybe even some component somewhere on it. You're just being silly.

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Originally Posted by Slayer X

Now a days there are about 10 console games per each PC game, and that's not even exclusive PC games which is why I stopped bothering with PC gaming and now just simply buy the 3 major consoles on the market for about the same price a new PC would.

Also if you get the PS3 you can install Linux on it, after which point you can do word processing and whatever else you could do on a new PC, and it'll still be able to play PS3 games. Therefore for the price difference that you pointed out as far as I'm concerned the PC right now is just an over expensive piece of hardware that's been bettered by Sony.

sounds good to me. Thanks for the input.

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Originally Posted by Forsety

Any TV made in the 90s will have a s-video slot or maybe even some component somewhere on it. You're just being silly.

I wouldn't guarantee that. I'm still stuck on Composite for now. Granted my TV is rather old (maybe 10 years now? Still puts it about 1995/1996) But Composite is still the way to go right now for me.

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Originally Posted by Slayer X

Now a days there are about 10 console games per each PC game, and that's not even exclusive PC games which is why I stopped bothering with PC gaming and now just simply buy the 3 major consoles on the market for about the same price a new PC would.

That's not a fair thing to say. The PC gets SHITLOADS of games. Moreso than most of the consoles do, they just aren't necessarily big ones, or popular ones.

For example, this week, the only PS2 game coming out is NCAA March Madness 07, but the PC is getting The Burning Crusade, Great Invasions, The Shield, and Pat Sajak's Lucky Letters. Most people haven't heard ot eh last three, which is why this assumption is a common mistake.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well I guess if he rather play games that no one's heard of before rather then some of the most anticipated games of the year like MGS4, Tekken 6, MotorStorm then he should go get a PC instead of a PS3+Linux so that he can play Great Invasions and The Shield instead.

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I never argued that the console games tend to be more hyped in this day and age, but I'm just pointing out a technicality.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Alright, well technically I suppose you're right however I don't know why you pointed it out if it doesn't really matter in the end.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Because I'm anal like that. That's really about it.

(We should stop derailing this now. >_>)

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Originally Posted by Devoxycontin

How would he print? Who does word processing without printing the pages?

Last time I checked, Linux supported USB printers. Correct me if I'm wrong, though.

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It does

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