Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence

I like to go for no-kill playthroughs.

Everytime I go into an area, my objective is sneak in there, hold up every guard, get their items, and interrogate them to hear what they have to say.

Then I CQC and push them to the ground. Then I leave.

They don't know I left.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Chasing "The End" around the fields was pretty fun. He's pretty harmless, you just gotta act fast with the cure option. Love sneaking up on him while he's sitting and snoring then CAP CAP CAP CAP with my AK, then when he runs away, it's sniping time! So far I think he's the easiest boss of the Cobra unit.

Oh yeah I cheated.

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Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right Square Triangle in the map No wonder I found it so easy. Well, I just prefer to have a "cheap" fight.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I recommend tranquilizing bosses. For not killing them, you get

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their camo.

For beating The End without killing him, you get

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a special tranquilizer sniper rifle (if I remember correctly).

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Originally Posted by Timberwolf

I recommend tranquilizing bosses. You get their camo for not killing them.

For beating The End without killing him, you get a special tranquilizer sniper rifle (if I remember correctly).

Try to put info like this in spoiler tag cause someone may want to discover it by him self =(

I was speaking idiomatically.

About the bosses:

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I really don't care for their camos. I just find that I have more ammo for killing rather than for the MK-22. Shot gun go boom

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by B4-Hunter

Try to put info like this in spoiler tag cause someone may want to discover it by him self =(

Sorry about that. I figured that wasn't something plot-related or hidden.

But I'll be more careful next time.

I've edited my previous post to include Spoiler tags.

FELIPE NO

Has anyone tried to play the Duel Mode? Normal Mode is pretty chellenging to get the top score, but I finished that all with highest score. The Special Mode is really tough (some of them.) I only got the high score on a few of them.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I've been busy in that mode myself and have gotten about as far as you. You are right though some of thoes specials are pretty darn hard. (right up there with European Extreme). But to this day though I still find the battle against Volgin the toughest battle in the game by far. If anyone has any good strategies for laying waste to this disturbing and powerful boss, plese post them here or PM me. ^^

I know that alot of people find the final battle hard, but I've done it so many times I can make them look like a joke.

How ya doing, buddy?

The Fear Battle:

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Was it just me, or was the Fear realllllllly easy? Like, beat him in 1 minute on the first try easy? All I did was stay in first-person mode, took out my mk22 tranq gun, watched where he jumped to (stealth camo wasn't too invisible), and shot him twice on each branch. He didn't even have a chance to shoot at me.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Here was my method to deal with Fear

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He is quite easy. All I did was use the thermal goggles and the AK47 and he was down 1,2,3.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by JazzFlight

The Fear Battle:

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I ran around shooting the frogs and mushrooms to make him come down and eat the poisoned food. This lowered his stamina so he spent more time on the ground. I then blew him away with me good ol' shotgun

I think The End and especially The Fury are hilariously easy on normal difficultly.

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The Fury just walks around thinking he's God. Well no. I run to the door on the one side and take out my sniper rifle and pin him three times in a row in his helmet. He then screams out, "SON OF A BIIIIIIITCHH!!!" and laughs from me ensued.

CAN'T TOUCH THIS!

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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You know that if you start fight with The End and save. Then set your PS2 data forward few year and then load. The End will be dead from old age =P?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by B4-Hunter

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You know that if you start fight with The End and save. Then set your PS2 data forward few year and then load. The End will be dead from old age =P?

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Actually, It only needs to be a week!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I found all bosses easy on normal difficulty. It saddened me that I defeated them so easily.

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Why is everybody doing this?

FELIPE NO

In the battle with The End,

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You can sneak up on him and hold him up,

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and get him to shake and give you his Moss Camo.

Originally Posted by Taterdemalion

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Why is everybody doing this?

Because

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This is the first time through MGS3 for some people.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Spatula

Chasing "The End" around the fields was pretty fun. He's pretty harmless, you just gotta act fast with the cure option. Love sneaking up on him while he's sitting and snoring then CAP CAP CAP CAP with my AK, then when he runs away, it's sniping time! So far I think he's the easiest boss of the Cobra unit.

Oh yeah I cheated.

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Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right Square Triangle in the map No wonder I found it so easy. Well, I just prefer to have a "cheap" fight.

That's interesting. I should try that when I go through the game a second time.

The first time I fought The End, I was there for about 30-45 minutes because I didn't know any tricks for fighting him. I still found the battle fun. At that time, I didn't have the thermal goggles at all, so I had a hard time finding him.

I was near a cliff area just looking around, and noticed something shining at the cliffs on the other side. I used the scope and saw that The End hadn't spotted me yet. I remember running out of ammo for all weapons except for the handgun, so I had to use that to shoot The End even if he was on another cliff. It ended up working though.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

You guys should really try to beat the bosses in the Special Duel Mode.
You don't get any thermal goggles or anything for the fight with The Fear or The End. In fact, the fight with The End doesn't even let you have the Directional Microphone to hear where he is, plus he's constantly on the move and not sitting in one place for long. One headshot from The End, and you're dead. The konami code to show his location doesn't work for duel mode.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Pietak

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Actually, It only needs to be a week!

Oh =P didn't know =) Any news about the covers?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well, I just got the ending credits for this game. It's been fun. And also somewhat quite sad. I have to say I did roll a tear or two just after the VERY last battle, and the subsequent scenes as well.

Okay, I'm pretty sad trying to understand these type of games but at the VERY end after the credits

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It was Ocelot talking right? Who was he talking to? Remind me again of Big Boss' children. I know of Solid, Liquid, and Solidus in SOL. Also, who is the "director"? Mr. Kojima? Yeah he sure has a good time messing around with my head.

Also with EVA,

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It also pains me to see that she really was another spy at the end and was working for China. Oh well.

All in all, I think I liked this MGS game the most, followed by the first game, then SOL. They're all very well done, but this one takes the cake. It's got a lot of varied environments to keep you interested and it doesn't have to make you run around back and forth (1st game) and having to revisit old places over and over again (both 1st and 2nd game). I didn't like being couped up in the Big Shell.

I don't really know about playing this game another round anytime soon. I get this feeling of "regret" after beating pretty much every game, especially RPGs, or no matter how "fun" or light-hearted the game might be.

Back to that term paper due for tomorrow.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Spatula

Okay, I'm pretty sad trying to understand these type of games but at the VERY end after the credits

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It was Ocelot talking right? Who was he talking to? Remind me again of Big Boss' children. I know of Solid, Liquid, and Solidus in SOL. Also, who is the "director"? Mr. Kojima? Yeah he sure has a good time messing around with my head.

Ocelot was

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the American spy. He was working with the American government. He was "Adam."

He was also

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The Boss's son (as revealed in a radio conversation if you call up EVA repeatedly right after the Ocelot shootout when you fall into the cave).

I was speaking idiomatically.

OCELOT!!!

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Yeah, Ocelot was born June 1944 was it? The Boss had her baby on the battlefield, so by simple mathematics he's 20 in the game. I never like Ocelot much prior to, but this has "spunk", and I love his hand guestures with extending index and middle finger out.

But it's interesting, Ocelot in MGS2 wants to rebuild and strengthen "Mother Russia"? What's the sudden change? I remember this after you take pictures of Metal Gear Ray.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Cat9

Actually, the special characters DO get special abilities.

Ocelot has a bulletproof hat, which prevents headshots.

Solokov gets a stealth camo (although they give this character to the worst player)

and the third guy (i forget his name) has a one hit kill CQC move

Funny, I thought Ocelot's special ability was shot-banking (only with his revolver, though). The third guy is Raikov.
On a related note, I think an interesting bonus for the online mode would have been levels based on previous games in the series...

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Spatula

But it's interesting, Ocelot in MGS2 wants to rebuild and strengthen "Mother Russia"? What's the sudden change? I remember this after you take pictures of Metal Gear Ray.

I think you've mistaken him for Gurlukovich. He was the one that wanted to restore power to "mother Russia." Ocelot said he had no interest: "Like I said I came to take it back. Returned, to the Patriots!"

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

My memory has failed me.

Now this word is popping into my head. Why.

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SHALASHASKA!

And...

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La Li Lu Le Lo

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Spatula

My memory has failed me.

Now this word is popping into my head. Why.

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SHALASHASKA!

And...

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La Li Lu Le Lo

Those words are another name for..

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shalashaska = ocelot's other name.. maybe in Russian
La Li Lu Le Lo = another name for the Patriots

There's nowhere I can't reach.