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[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread
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DragoonKain
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 01:55 AM #2151 of 3592
Originally Posted by K_ Takahashi
The real reason why are attempts are so damn high.

You can make some 300+% profit, heh, it pays some bills.
But to wait outside for 3 or 4 days you risk getting fired from your job or may have to quit which makes the short-term profit good, but dreadful long-term.

FELIPE NO
THE PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES ARE YOUR 2008 WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONS.
immp
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 01:58 AM #2152 of 3592
Originally Posted by Colonel Skills
See you guys Friday.
If we see you on friday, somethings gone wrong with your ps3.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
K_ Takahashi
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 03:07 AM #2153 of 3592
Originally Posted by immp
If we see you on friday, somethings gone wrong with your ps3.
or if you get mugged of blasted by some fool as SOLDIER pointed out.

This is why I would hire a bodyguard or two.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
Rock
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 07:14 AM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 02:14 PM #2154 of 3592
I've got some sort of a noobish question here: Would it be possible to hook your PS3 up to a PC LCD monitor (e.g. 1280x1024 native resolution)?

They're considerably cheaper than a full blown HDTV set and a 17" or 19" LCD monitor should support 720p via a HDMI to DVI-D converter, right?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Last edited by Rock; Nov 16, 2006 at 07:51 AM.
Metal Sphere
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:17 AM #2155 of 3592
Originally Posted by SCHWARZE-3
I've got some sort of a noobish question here: Would it be possible to hook your PS3 up to a PC LCD monitor (e.g. 1280x1024 native resolution)?

They're considerably cheaper than a full blown HDTV set and a 17" or 19" LCD monitor should support 720p via a HDMI to DVI-D converter, right?
You wouldn't even need a converter, just an HDMI to DVI cable. I don't remember if it supports odd resolutions (like 768p on many flat panel LCD TVs), though if it does, then all you need is that cable, and use the AV out for sound.

Or you could set the machine at 720p, which comes in slightly lower than 1280 x 1024. Let's wait until some guys have it here, so we can find out what it'll output.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:06 AM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 05:06 PM #2156 of 3592
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
Or you could set the machine at 720p, which comes in slightly lower than 1280 x 1024. Let's wait until some guys have it here, so we can find out what it'll output.
That's what I was aiming for, yes.

I've done some research on the HDMI to DVI thing and it seems there might be trouble if the monitor (or the cable?) doesn't support HDCP.

From the official PS3 manual:
Quote:
If a device that is not compatible with the HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) standard is connected to the system using an HDMI cable, video and/or audio cannot be output from the system.
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...deooutput.html

I don't know if LCD monitors with DVI support this or not.

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Shonos
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:19 AM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 08:19 AM #2157 of 3592
That just has to do with BLU-RAY and HD-DVD movies. You do not have to worry about HDCP with the gaming portion of your PS3.

One of the many reasons why I hate the DRM bullshit on both formats.

I was speaking idiomatically.
kainlightwind
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:25 AM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 09:25 AM #2158 of 3592
Hey just an off the topic question. Since 720p seems like the ideal thing with gaming these days, would this tv work at all with a 720p resolution for my PS3?

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KV_27FS...5.html?tag=nav

How ya doing, buddy?
Metal Sphere
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 11:22 AM #2159 of 3592
Originally Posted by SILBER-5
That just has to do with BLU-RAY and HD-DVD movies. You do not have to worry about HDCP with the gaming portion of your PS3.

One of the many reasons why I hate the DRM bullshit on both formats.
Unfortunately, it was mentioned a few days ago that Sony extended HDCP to cover even the games passing a signal over HDMI. It was one of the reasons why BlimBlim got his hopes shattered since if this wasn't in place, he could simply record gameplay off the machine.

This sucks for people with older HDTVs that lack any sort of HDCP compliance.

And just so you know, the ones you should be fuming at is the motion picture industry. They're the ones who set the requirements for their movies to be on any new formats. So what we get is DRM'd, copy protection all around.

FELIPE NO

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Cobalt Katze
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 12:29 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 09:29 AM #2160 of 3592
Here's an interesting question... considering that my widescreen monitor has DVI input, but isn't actually an HDTV, how would I go about determining what HD resolutions it supports? I understand now about Interlaced and Progressive Scan, though they aren't common terminology when it comes to computer monitors.

The monitor's native resolution is 1680x1050... so it doesn't seem like it would support 1080 by 30 bloody pixels. Would there be a way for me to tell then which 720 my monitor supported? (I don't want downgrade )

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
Rock
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 02:28 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 09:28 PM #2161 of 3592
Originally Posted by Metal Sphere
Unfortunately, it was mentioned a few days ago that Sony extended HDCP to cover even the games passing a signal over HDMI. It was one of the reasons why BlimBlim got his hopes shattered since if this wasn't in place, he could simply record gameplay off the machine.

This sucks for people with older HDTVs that lack any sort of HDCP compliance.
So no way of hooking up a PS3 to a PC LCD monitor via HDMI to DVI-D cable then?

Jam it back in, in the dark.
Metal Sphere
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 02:37 PM #2162 of 3592
Originally Posted by Cobalt Katze
Here's an interesting question... considering that my widescreen monitor has DVI input, but isn't actually an HDTV, how would I go about determining what HD resolutions it supports? I understand now about Interlaced and Progressive Scan, though they aren't common terminology when it comes to computer monitors.
Modern monitors are all progressive, and they've had HD resolutions available for some time now. All you need to worry about, since the i/p question is answered, is if the monitor's native resolution is higher than what you're going to set in the PS3's output menu. It's better to have a smaller picture, than one that's cut off the edges, unless your monitor has some overscan controls you can fidget with.


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The monitor's native resolution is 1680x1050... so it doesn't seem like it would support 1080 by 30 bloody pixels. Would there be a way for me to tell then which 720 my monitor supported? (I don't want downgrade )
There's only one 720p, and that's the HD standardized 1280 x 720p. The console resolution set at that will fit fine on your monitor, but since it's not recommended res for the monitor (assuming this is an LCD) you'll see PQ losses.

Still, a much better alternative than buying an HDTV for the console.

Originally Posted by SCHWARZE-3
So no way of hooking up a PS3 to a PC LCD monitor via HDMI to DVI-D cable then?
That's the word, hopefully it's not true, but from all the display issues popping up (720p being downscaled by the console? 480i/p settings for proper PS2 game playback?) it may hold true.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.

Last edited by Metal Sphere; Nov 16, 2006 at 02:42 PM.
Spatula
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 02:39 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 12:39 PM #2163 of 3592
What causes more chaos and panic in Japan than Godzilla himself?

The launch of the PS3!

Coming to a store near you!

Also, I like how Ken Kutaragi basically got a customer base he'd have a fun time communicating over.

NIHONGO WO HANASANAI!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Nov 16, 2006, 02:59 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 10:59 PM #2164 of 3592
my god...

1000+ people in a single que ...

Why can't i get one

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DragoonKain
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 03:01 PM #2165 of 3592
Are they fixing these issues with the second shipment?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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K_ Takahashi
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 03:04 PM #2166 of 3592
Dauuuuuum.....

That croud is crazy, if I diddnt know any better I thought it was a croud of fangirls trying to get tickets to a Gackt concert or something.

I wish that there was a live stream at a prior to a release, so we can see what these "people"are doing.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
Spatula
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 03:20 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 01:20 PM #2167 of 3592
You know, after reading that last article again, I feel pretty sorry for the Chinese elderly people that waited in line. Sure they got compensation of 20,000 yen from the businessmen, about $185 USD, and waiting in line is a pretty low skilled "job" if you will. Even with all this laughing and joking aside, I do feel sorry for some of them that just need that money, and have to bear through the throngs of pushy crowds and the like (and perhaps the bewilderment on the Japanese store clerk's faces as well, lost in language).

How ya doing, buddy?

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DragoonKain
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 03:28 PM #2168 of 3592
I believe the correct phrase is lost in translation. Just kidding, but that is my favorite movie nonetheless.

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Spatula
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 03:44 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 01:44 PM #2169 of 3592
Originally Posted by DragoonKain
I believe the correct phrase is lost in translation.
Have a nice fright.

I do have night classes today, but I do have a break before then, so there is a Best Buy and EB close by, I'll see if there are line ups there as well :shurgs:.

How many units are Best Buys supposed to have anyways? 8 per store? Not much of a line up then, unless they're going crazy for the games.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Kesubei
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 03:45 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 04:45 PM #2170 of 3592
Originally Posted by The Magic Box
Sony Computer Entertainment Hong Kong mentioned that only 500 units of PlayStation 3 will be available in Taiwan and Hong Kong at launch on November 17, 2006
I guess the Asian is market is pretty small, then?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Pietak
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 04:02 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 06:02 PM #2171 of 3592
Originally Posted by Spatula
Have a nice fright.

I do have night classes today, but I do have a break before then, so there is a Best Buy and EB close by, I'll see if there are line ups there as well :shurgs:.

How many units are Best Buys supposed to have anyways? 8 per store? Not much of a line up then, unless they're going crazy for the games.
Nope, minimum of 20 $599 versions, and 6 $499 versions. Looking pretty promising. I'm off to go wait in line tomorrow, fuck this tent sleeping.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Love it.
Soldier
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 04:07 PM #2172 of 3592
I swear this is the best time of the holidays, reading and watching all these crazies line up, riot, and pay stupid amounts of money for the big item this year (it was today that I learned that similar madness is occuring for a "Tickle-me Elmo XTREME". Come on now).

My job was well aware of this insanity as well. The "Boss" I mentioned previously caught on that I'd be picking up a system tommorow, and asked if I'd be skipping work. I tried to hold my ground and say that I wouldn't, but get this; she also egged me on.

So, I'm off tommorow. I told them the reason was that I had to take my mom's brother's cousin's dog to the vet ("what's the dog's name?" ".....Sony."), which of course no one believed, but I wanted that to stay on record. It sure is a fun job; she reminicsed about previous systems like the PS2 and SNES (she said she found the SNES educational in developing her little boy's coordination skills, the game in question being Donkey Kong Country), but she isn't willing to shell out the amount for a PS3.

One day left, and you bet I'm excited. However, this news of the downscaling in HDTV's really rubs me the wrong way. If I knew about this sooner, I'd probably put off buying a PS3 at launch and settle for the Wii first. No bones about it, this is Sony's biggest screwup, and they better make sure to fix it with an update (and that's if it's even possible to fix via update) STAT.

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Hotobu
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 05:58 PM #2173 of 3592
Originally Posted by SCHWARZE-3
So no way of hooking up a PS3 to a PC LCD monitor via HDMI to DVI-D cable then?
To YOUR monitor maybe but that's not universally true. Windows vista will support HDCP content thus some monitors (specifically the Dell 2407 WFP revision A03) DO support that. Or (I don't know if these even exist) you could get Component -> DVI/VGA and settle for 1080i (As the only way to get 1080p is through HDMI).

Originally Posted by kainlightwind
Hey just an off the topic question. Since 720p seems like the ideal thing with gaming these days, would this tv work at all with a 720p resolution for my PS3?

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KV_27FS...5.html?tag=nav

Of course not it isn't even an HD TV.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Last edited by Hotobu; Nov 16, 2006 at 06:02 PM.
Soldier
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 06:11 PM #2174 of 3592


What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
majario
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Old Nov 16, 2006, 07:57 PM #2175 of 3592
Good luck on getting a PS3 guys. Sadly I'll probably have to wait until next March or so to get one. I only had the money for one console this time.

Be sure to post your feelings when you start to play it. I'm eager to hear what you guys think being able to finally play it!

FELIPE NO
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