Firefox 2.0

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So now that this is out, how do you think it holds up to its predecessor?

I still have to download IE7 to really compare the two, but I'm enjoying the new features in Firefox.
Memory usage seems somewhat improved. I have 3 tabs open at the moment, using about 70mb of ram.
The automatic spell check is nice for certain things like posting on GFF.
And more web pages display correctly, which is always a plus.

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Looks like this will be interesting. I am going to download it right now. It will be nice to see memory usage decrease a little. I only have so much RAM to spare theses days.

Nice to have spell checked installed with it. Might help some of the people who post on GFF.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Firefox is certainly becoming more Opera-esque in terms of standard features. That's not necessarily a bad thing, of course.

At the risk of personal safety, I like the skin in 2.0. (I cannot, however, describe what it is about the skin that I like!)

I'd say that this is a good release.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The new skin needs a bit of time to get used to, since I've been using the 1.x one for ages. I just noticed it has an automatic spell-check. That's just plain fucking awesome!

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I like the new skin. It's shiny but not sparkling, icons and proportions are designed well. Also most extensions I prefer already worked out of the box, the rest installed fine after tweaking their max version.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The new skin isn't too bad, but don't you think its a little to gray? I mean, I still love it, but this one seems a little more depressing.... or is it just me?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

It looked okay I guess, but I had trouble with it "shaking" up and down while trying to view any webpages, gone back to the old version, but once I find a way to stop the "shaking" I'll be getting it again.

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What do you mean by "shaking"? I haven't noticed any shaking in mine.

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The web pages in the browser move up and down constantly, and it makes reading anything very difficult. I don't know a better way to describe it other than this.

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Wow, that's a weird one...

About the skin being too gray: I cannot say much about the colors on Windows, since I'm using Linux with KDE and the Clearlooks engine for GTK+ programs - so pretty much all my applications are pleasantly colored.

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I like the new spell check and I don't really like the new look, the icons look really dead compared to version 1.x and I can't even change my skin cuz my old ones are incompatible. But I guess they'll release updates to them once more people download 2.0.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I really don't give a damn about 'features' or anything else other than a standards-compliant browser engine. MSIE 7 doesn't have that, and while parts of Firefox are still somewhat broken, it's closer to compliance than IE will ever get.

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I upgraded and it looked pretty much the same. Most of my extensions survived, though I checked just now and a couple more have been updated.



Only difference really is now I have Edit, View, History and Help in my menu again now ;(

I don't like how the tabs simply go off the edge of the window and you browse though that little arrow, though I suppose TMP is going to be updated soon; there's enough people asking for it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I guess upgrading to 2.0 still hasn't solved my problem. I'm actually forced to use IE at the moment because I'm downloading something in Firefox, which has the random side effect of freezing all surfing capabilities (opening a new window doesn't work). I have absolutely no idea why this happens.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

The freezing problem has been there since the "Bon Echo" (Alpha 2) release. To be honest, i'm not in the least bit impressed with Firefox in any of the 2x releases; all i've experienced are bugs, freezes and more crashes than I ever had even with Firefox 0.7. The totally unnecessary redesign of the icons and an inability to change the tab bar colour from its hideous cream shade was the final nail in the coffin for me while I was using Beta 2. Does the final release still have those dulled icons and that ugly tab bar?

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Originally Posted by Bigblah

I guess upgrading to 2.0 still hasn't solved my problem. I'm actually forced to use IE at the moment because I'm downloading something in Firefox, which has the random side effect of freezing all surfing capabilities (opening a new window doesn't work). I have absolutely no idea why this happens.

Are you saying that this freezing occurred in versions prior to 2.0 as well? If you are, then I'm not saying it doesn't suck, I'm just saying thank god I'm not the only one. I thought it was my computer to blame.

How ya doing, buddy?

Yeah, I've had this freezing problem in 1.5, and maybe a couple versions prior to that.

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I just installed it. The first page that loaded up when I started the app the first time was indeed shaking. However, after a refresh, it stopped. Since I've been to a couple sites briefly (including GFF), I haven't noticed any more shaking, but I will need to use this more to know for certain if it is gone.

Oh, wait, nevermind, I just opened the History sidebar, and now shit is shaking again. WTF LOL. Refreshing helped, but this is ridiculous.

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OK, so now I'm stuck with close buttons on all of my tabs and no side button for closing multiple tabs at once. Fucking fail. Why can't I turn off these close buttons? I have a working middle mouse button; I don't need a close button on each fucking tab.

The spell checker and built in undoclosetab-like functionality is great, but why can't it give me a simple option to change the close button behavior on the tabs? I'll wait until this and the shaking shit gets taken care of before I switch to Firefox 2.

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I think I just solved the shaking problem. I needed to customize my toolbar and restore the default set. Apparently it carried over my settings from a previous Firefox installation on this machine, and it didn't like how the toolbar buttons were set up.

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weird, am I the only on that have 0 problem with Firefox 2.0 beside some extension not working??

I never had that shaking problem, I still have my tab like and where they use to be and saying that the default theme is a problem is a little retard since you can change that >.>

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

So there's no option to turn off the x buttons on tabs yet? I dunno if I'll upgrade yet. Does it really get that much in the way?

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I just found a way to revert to the FF 1.x style tab close button. Type about:config in the address bar, hit enter (or click Go), scroll down to browser.tabs.closeButtons (or use the search), double-click it, and change the value to 3.

If you don't want any close buttons on the entire tabs bar, you can use the value of 2.

See here for more info:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.tabs.closeButtons

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FYI, my fix is officially the only way to change the behavior of the close buttons on tabs. They have no plans to change back to the old style nor even add an option in the Options menu, because supposedly that old style only caters to a minority of users. Apparently most users haven't learned to use the middle mouse button yet.

See here for more info:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324227

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Kaleb.G

Apparently most users haven't learned to use the middle mouse button yet.

oh god -_- I feel stupid now XD I use the middle mouse button for opening page in new tab but never really thought it could work to close them XD but what's the urge to get rid of that x button? I don't see why it should bother...

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I use lots of tabs frequently. All of those close buttons really add up in space, and allow for less tabs to be displayed at once. More importantly, I often mis-click stuff, and with all of those close buttons up there, it's like trying to navigate a minefield.

As for the use of far right close button, here's a typical scenario for me. I'm on a picture gallery with 12+ thumbnails on a page. I middle click on each the thumbnails so that the full view of each picture can open up in its own tab. If the particular server is slow to transfer data, I can then use this time to browse another site while that one loads up all of my images (because they're all open in separate tabs). When the loading is all done, I go to the first (or last) full view image.

The thing here is...I only want to skim the images to see if any of them interest me. I very briefly look at the current image, and then close it using the close button on the far right side. I repeat this for each of the 12+ tabs. Look, click close. Look, click close. And so on. Because the close button is always in the same place, I can do this very quickly.

Of course, I could always use Ctrl+W, but that will cramp my hand after a while.

Double Post:
Another pro-tip for making FF 2.0 more like FF 1.x:

To increase the number of tabs displayed at once, go into about:config and change the value of browser.tabs.tabMinWidth. I have mine set to 0, which is just like just like in 1.x (it only makes each tab as small as the icon on it).

FELIPE NO

I don't have the close tabs problem, if only because I use MiniFoxFlat, which doesn't fully support FF 2.0 right now.

All in all FF 2.0 is great, I have yet to see any bugs at all in it (and I have been using 2.0 since it went into Beta 2) and the new features are great.

The real test of 2.0 after using it for a week, would (or could) you go back to Firefox 1.5.x now? I certainly can't and that's the best complement to any new program.

I just can't wait for Firefox 3 to come out, which according to predictions should be in less than six months.

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Originally Posted by Kaiten

The real test of 2.0 after using it for a week, would (or could) you go back to Firefox 1.5.x now?

I could, because the only noticeable new feature is the close buttons on the tabs. The tab history is pretty neat, but the only time I use it is when I accidentally close a tab -- which, ironically, is always due to the new close buttons.

Plus, I spell fine without a checker

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