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Old Sep 19, 2006, 11:54 AM #1 of 15
Military Coup in Thailand

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060919/...re_as/thailand

Originally Posted by Yahoo! News
Thai military launches coup against PM

By GRANT PECK, Associated Press Writer 16 minutes ago

BANGKOK, Thailand - The Thai military launched a coup against Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra on Tuesday night, circling his offices with tanks, seizing control of TV stations and declaring a provisional authority pledging loyalty to the king.

An announcement on Thai television declared that a "Council of Administrative Reform" with King Bhumibol Adulyadej as head of state had seized power in Bangkok and nearby provinces without any resistance.

At least 14 tanks surrounded Government House, Thaksin's office. Thaksin was in New York at the U.N. General Assembly and declared a state of emergency via a government-owned TV station.

A convoy of four tanks rigged with loudspeakers and sirens rolled through a busy commercial district warning people to get off the street for their own safety.

A senior military official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation, said army Commander-in-Chief Gen. Sondhi Boonyaratkalin had used the military to take over power from the prime minister.

Thaksin has faced calls to step down amid allegations of corruption and abuse of power.

Massive rallies earlier this year forced Thaksin to dissolve Parliament and call an election in April, three years ahead of schedule. The poll was boycotted by opposition parties and later annulled by Thailand's top courts, leaving the country without a working legislature.

Thaksin's Thai Rak Thai Party twice won landslide election victories, in 2001 and 2005 and had been expected to win the next vote on Oct. 15, bolstered by its widespread support in the country's rural areas.

In 1992, demonstrators against a military strongman were gunned down before the king stepped in to end the fighting and usher in a period of stability.

On Monday, Thaksin had said he may step down as leader of the country after upcoming elections, but he will remain at the helm of his party, despite calls for him to give up the post.

On Tuesday night, several hundred soldiers were deployed at government installations and major intersections in the capital of Bangkok, according to an Associated Press reporter.

Army-owned TV channel 5 interrupted regular broadcasts with patriotic music and showed pictures of the king. At least some radio and television stations monitored in Bangkok suspended programming.

The cable television station of the Nation newspaper reported that tanks were parked at the Rachadamnoen Road and royal plaza close to the royal palace and government offices.

"The prime minister with the approval of the cabinet declares serious emergency law in Bangkok from now on" Thaksin said on Channel 9 from New York. He said he was ordering the transfer of the nation's army chief to work in the prime minister's office, effectively suspending him from his military duties.

Thaksin's critics want to jettison his policies promoting privatization, free trade agreements and CEO-style administration.

Opposition to Thaksin gained momentum in January when his family announced it had sold its controlling stake in telecommunications company Shin Corp. to Singapore's state-owned Temasek Holdings for a tax-free $1.9 billion. Critics allege the sale involved insider trading and complain a key national asset is now in foreign hands.

Thaksin also has been accused of stifling the media and mishandling a Muslim insurgency in southern Thailand that flared under his rule.

In Thailand's mostly Muslim south, separatist insurgents have waged a bloody campaign that has left at least 1,700 dead, mostly civilians, since 2004. Citizens there have complained of rights abuses by soldiers and discrimination by the country's Buddhist majority.
Well, this is fairly sudden. I'm no expert on the political situation in Thailand, so I likely won't be much of a participant in any debates. However, I figure that this is fairly serious news that ought to be brought to people's attention. It seems that the coup took place with no actual violence occuring, probably because it was the country's own military - how, as a government, do you defend yourself against that, exactly?

Discuss this event and the ramifications of it. This will likely receive news updates often today, so let's try to keep on top of any breaking news in regards to this coup.

Ah, here's another source for you - CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapc...mor/index.html

Originally Posted by CNN.com
Rumors of coup attempt in Thailand
POSTED: 12:54 p.m. EDT, September 19, 2006

BANGKOK, Thailand (CNN) -- Members of the Thai military are attempting to seize power but Thailand's leadership expects everything to return to normal soon, Deputy Prime Minister Surakiart Sathirathai tells CNN.

Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra -- currently at the U.N. headquarters in New York -- went on a government-owned TV station and declared a state of emergency, The Associated Press reported.

The government has maintained control of the capital and the surrounding areas, according a statement on Thailand's state-controled Army television.

The statement asked for residents to remain calm and await further announcements. (Watch tanks roll through the streets of Bangkok -- 3:53)

Around the royal palace in Bangkok, four tanks were parked as were a number of armored vehicles and Humvees, CNN's Dan Rivers reported. Soldiers appeared to be setting up roadblocks and what appeared to be members of the royal guard surrounded the palace.

It was unclear if the soldiers were loyal to the government or to those attempting to seize power. There have been no reports of violence in Bangkok.

According to officials at the Thai mission at the United Nations, Thaksin has moved up his speech to the General Assembly to Tuesday night and will return to Bangkok after his address.

He had been scheduled to address the assembly on Wednesday.

Thailand operates as a constitutional monarchy, with the king as head of state and the prime minister leading the government. The country is an ally of the U.S. and contributed troops to the U.S.-led military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Thaksin has been under considerable pressure to step down.

Elections in Thailand are scheduled for November after the country's constitutional court ruled April's vote was unconstitutional.

Thaksin had called for the elections in April, three years early, after opponents accused the billionaire leader of abusing the country's system of checks and balances and bending government policy to benefit his family's business.
Might not be as serious as I had originally thought. Still, discuss away.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Sep 19, 2006, 12:02 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2006, 06:02 PM #2 of 15
There were elections in May which were apparently rigged so it doesn't really surprise me. However, I think that they will get things under control pretty soon down there. After all, it's Thailand and not some rocket state like Somalia or Mocambique.

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Old Sep 19, 2006, 01:14 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2006, 10:14 AM #3 of 15
This is a historical account that might lend insights into the current developments in Thailand and bear warning to the potential gravity of that state.

During the Chilean coup on September 11, 1973, the military assassinated president Salvador Allende and established a dictatorship under Augusto Pinochet.

Allende’s Marxist reform plans had drawn widespread opposition particularly from the U.S. What ensued was one the least publicized genocides in which hundreds of thousands were arrested without warrant often in the middle of the night by masked militiamen and mysterious “disappearances” were rampant. Survivors have recounted the torture they endured and the executions they witnessed while in concentration camps such as the one set up in the National Stadium. The death toll is estimated at 22,000 counting missing persons and the targets included socialists, liberals, professionals, students, and even the clergy.

Only in 2004 was Pinochet prosecuted for the human rights violations perpetrated during his regime. U.S. involvement has been under scrutiny since the release of several classified CIA documents, but there is no direct proof of particpiation in the coup nor is there any of intervention.

The situation in Thailand should not be taken lightly in the least since it can escalate to anything given the lack of media attention it’s receiving. Now there goes something where a world power might come in handy.



"I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its own people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves."
— Henry Kissinger

"Not a nut or bolt shall reach Chile under Allende. Once Allende comes to power we shall do all within our power to condemn Chile and all Chileans to utmost deprivation and poverty."
— Edward M. Korry, U.S. Ambassador to Chile, upon hearing of Allende's election.

"Make the economy scream [in Chile to] prevent Allende from coming to power or to unseat him"
— Richard Nixon, orders to CIA director Richard Helms on September 15, 1970

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Old Sep 19, 2006, 04:58 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2006, 04:58 PM #4 of 15
Originally Posted by FlamingScurve
This is a historical account that might lend insights into the current developments in Thailand and bear warning to the potential gravity of that state.
Your entire post talks about Chile under Pinochet, with no real effort to explain why it out of all the military coups which have occured since the end of World War II might provide special insight into Thailand's present coup. Why it, and not Perverz Musharraf's more recent coup in Pakistan, for instance?

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 12:59 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 01:59 PM #5 of 15
Man.
its strange, that the PM is overseas while all this is happening homeside.

i really hope nothing crappy's gonna happen.
*the end days*

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 01:29 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 02:29 PM #6 of 15
So I hear the leader of the coup went on TV saying he wants to re instate democracy. If he actually goes ahead with this, it could be the most well intentioned military coup or all time.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 03:21 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 03:21 AM #7 of 15
Originally Posted by thesleeper
Man.
its strange, that the PM is overseas while all this is happening homeside.

i really hope nothing crappy's gonna happen.
*the end days*
Hardly. It makes sense, if the coup plans on gaining the support of the people. Without the minister's full attention, the military can seat themselves pretty securely before his return.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 08:35 AM #8 of 15
Remember though, Thailand is still hugely loyal to the Monarchy, the greatest stabalizing factor for the nation. The King doesn't want a return to the killing, and is probably behind the scenes pushing everyone to restore democracy to the nation.

The fact is, Thailand has been a fairly vibrant democracy for 15 years, once change happens and it works, it is hard to reverse. With the King behind the scenes pushing for it, as well as international pressure that will almost certainly build, I think we will see elections relatively soon.

We'll see though, its still a bit hard to get information out of the nation.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 09:20 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 10:20 PM #9 of 15
Well, Thailand is just a few hundred miles away, and any chaos will send peoples streaming into M'sia,

So... damn.

I'm pretty darn worried, but so far so good.

I hope the Military jsut doesn't go into civil war with itself.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 09:40 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 10:40 PM #10 of 15
Because that's likely to happen and all.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 10:22 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 11:22 PM #11 of 15
Well, it's not likely. But can't help being a little worried when something bad is happening next door.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 10:35 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 11:35 PM #12 of 15
This wasn't really unexpected, considering the turmoil that's been going on for awhile.

And to think that Singapore is partially involved in all this. I bet plenty of bigwigs here are shitting their pants right now with the potential political and, more importantly, financial ramifications.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 01:15 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 01:15 PM #13 of 15
It looks like this has been planned for some time, as the King has now given his blessing to the coup.

I'm confused by people claiming that this is the "death of democracy." Obviously we can't say things will be better without seeing what comes of this, but if the military and administrative branches are working together to see elections by October, then it sounds like this may very well be what the country needed.

Hell, if the military is stepping in to prevent demonstrative clashes between Thaksin supporters and coup supporters, why is everyone else around the globe so disturbed by it?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 20, 2006, 01:52 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 06:52 PM #14 of 15
I think people naively believe that when an army moves, there will inevitably be bloodshed. Democracy obviously wasn't working very well if the military found it necessary to remove their allegedly corrupt president.

Business seems to be carrying on as usual in Thailand; the military claim they will install a new president within a fortnight and recommence "democracy" within a year.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Sep 20, 2006, 03:11 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 12:11 PM #15 of 15
Originally Posted by Lord Styphon
Your entire post talks about Chile under Pinochet, with no real effort to explain why it out of all the military coups which have occured since the end of World War II might provide special insight into Thailand's present coup. Why it, and not Perverz Musharraf's more recent coup in Pakistan, for instance?
No special reason. Only I'm most familiar with it. I was just lending my two cents. Hoping to incite a broader discussion and basically to make the point that these kinds of events (including Pakistan) are largley overlooked. Don't know if that qualifies as an insight.

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