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Old Jun 28, 2006, 01:54 AM #1 of 21
Ati VS geforce

Im building a custom gaming pc and i want every thing to be top of the line:biggrin: the problem is i dont know which graphic cards to go with, can anyone tell me who makes the best cards between ATI and GEFORCE

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Old Jun 28, 2006, 02:18 AM Local time: Jun 28, 2006, 12:18 AM #2 of 21
Geforce 7950 GX2. Cost: $700

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Old Jun 28, 2006, 02:36 AM Local time: Jun 28, 2006, 08:36 AM #3 of 21
Why everyone keep asking same question over and over? I think I saw clones of this thread all over GFF and most posts in Hardware section have this question in it... am I right?

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Old Jun 28, 2006, 02:38 AM Local time: Jun 27, 2006, 11:38 PM #4 of 21
This is going to be another VS bashing thread-.-
7950 GX2 is a wacky sli card. Just small differents to 500$ cards and pretty lame as soon as DX10 card gona be out (end of this year).
If you like nvidia go with 7900GTX or ATI X1900XTX.

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Old Jun 28, 2006, 03:00 AM Local time: Jun 28, 2006, 01:00 AM #5 of 21
Originally Posted by Elrasiel
This is going to be another VS bashing thread-.-
7950 GX2 is a wacky sli card. Just small differents to 500$ cards and pretty lame as soon as DX10 card gona be out (end of this year).
If you like nvidia go with 7900GTX or ATI X1900XTX.
It's only SLI if you put two of them together. Even though the card itself is two 7900s put together, it's not subject to the lameness and problems that SLI is prone to. Also, the drivers for the card were just released a couple days ago so it's all good. Technically, ATI doesn't have an equivalent single-slot card.

I've read by review that the 7950 is a powerhouse card, and is nearly twice as fast as fast as two 7900s.

I'll just stop now because this thread is incredibly lame, and by judging by his grammar, he's probably 13 and couldn't afford afformentioned technology.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 28, 2006, 10:00 AM Local time: Jun 28, 2006, 07:00 AM #6 of 21
What kind of retarded racial comment should that suppose to be??? You better should watch your mouth before writing stuff like that!:eyebrow:

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Old Jun 28, 2006, 10:03 AM #7 of 21
"Racial" is definitely not the word you're looking for.

How about you learn English before you start thinking you can argue.

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Old Jun 28, 2006, 11:02 AM Local time: Jun 28, 2006, 05:02 PM #8 of 21
I'm kind of the same boat I will soon be considering in a few months which parts I will need to overhaul my 2 year old PC which I built myself.

My advice is to just hold out and wait for the new DX 10 cards from both Nvidia and ATi which are not too far away, that way you will have the choice of getting a DX 10 card and also the price of the current cards which are on the market will have fallen. But if I did have to choose, it would be something from the Nvidia 7 series, but if you do go for SLI make sure all your hardware is compatible and also it may seem a bit of headache at first as my friend found out.

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 01:58 PM #9 of 21
Originally Posted by warsong
Im building a custom gaming pc and i want every thing to be top of the line:biggrin: the problem is i dont know which graphic cards to go with, can anyone tell me who makes the best cards between ATI and GEFORCE
Top of the line! Poor choice of words in your statement.

Something tells me I'm wasting my time with your thread. But how about you give people more information on what you are building first. What is it exactly do you want?

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 02:43 PM #10 of 21
Boy, all this talk makes me wish the 7950GX2s were SLi-ready.

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 03:47 PM Local time: Jul 1, 2006, 02:47 PM #11 of 21
It's nVidia, kid, not GEFORCE

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Old Jul 2, 2006, 01:11 PM Local time: Jul 2, 2006, 12:11 PM #12 of 21
It's Voodoo vs 3dfx, kid. And I'd choose onboard intel integrated video, personally.

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Old Jul 2, 2006, 04:14 PM #13 of 21
Intergrated Intel Graphics 64MB had Battlefield 1942 running like butter.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 3, 2006, 02:40 PM Local time: Jul 3, 2006, 02:40 PM #14 of 21
You can always go to Alienware and waste money. Here, this is only $17,390.00 before tax.

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Power Supply: 700 Watt Alienware® Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply
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And that's before actually looking at the specs and adding/removing stuff.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jul 3, 2006, 03:28 PM #15 of 21
Originally Posted by BIGWORM
Intergrated Intel Graphics 64MB had Battlefield 1942 running like butter.
In which state? Melted? Soft? Brick-hard?

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Old Jul 3, 2006, 10:23 PM #16 of 21
Soft, nothing but soft.

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Old Jul 4, 2006, 02:32 AM Local time: Jul 4, 2006, 10:32 AM #17 of 21
Originally Posted by Lukage
You can always go to Alienware and waste money. Here, this is only $17,390.00 before tax.

[1] Aurora™ ALX

Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-62 Dual Core Processor - Extreme Power!
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional with Service Pack 2
Chassis: Alienware® Full-Tower Case
Chassis Upgrades: Alienware® Acoustic Dampening with AlienIce™ 2.0 Video Cooling
Power Supply: 700 Watt Alienware® Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply
Motherboard: Alienware® Approved NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI Motherboard
Memory: 2GB DDR2 PC-6400 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 1024MB
System Drive: High Performance with Data Security (RAID 1) - 750GB RAID 1 (2 x 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7.200 RPM w/2 x 16MB Cache)
Storage Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/16MB Cache
Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive w/LightScribe Technology
Blank Media: Verbatim Lightscribe DVD+R 4.7GB 10-Pack in Spindle
Secondary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive w/LightScribe Technology
Blank Media: Verbatim Lightscribe DVD+R 4.7GB 10-Pack in Spindle
Graphics Processor: Quad NVIDIA® SLI™ technology featuring four GeForce® 7900 GPUs
Physics Processing Unit: Ageia PhysX Processing Unit w/ 128MB GDDR3
Supported Games: Bet On Soldier: Bloodsport
Supported Games: City of Villains™
Supported Games: Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
Video Optimizer: AlienAdrenaline: Video Performance Optimizer
Monitor: Dell 30" 2560 x 1600 UltraSharp Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor with HDCP!
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard
Speakers: Logitech® Z-5450 Digital 5.1 Speaker System
Communications: Integrated Dual High Performance Gigabit Ethernet
Keyboard: Logitech® Cordless Desktop® MX™ 5000
Mouse: Logitech® MX™ 1000 Laser Cordless Mouse
Warranty: 3-Year AlienCare Toll-Free 24/7 Phone Support w/ Onsite Service / AlienAutopsy / Respawn
Games: Bet On Soldier: Bloodsport
Games: Call of Duty® 2
Games: City of Villains™
Games: DOOM 3™
Games: F.E.A.R.
Games: Madden NFL 2006
Games: Half-Life 2
Games: Star Wars: Empire at War
Games: The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Games: Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
Games: Quake 4
Alienware Exclusive Offers: GameFly - Unlimited Game Rentals for 15 days - FREE TRIAL
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Productivity Software: Microsoft® Works 2006 DVD Suite
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Financial Software: Microsoft® Money 2006 Premium
Digital Photography: Adobe® Elements Bundle
Digital Photography: Adobe® Photoshop® CS2
Digital Photography: Adobe® Photoshop® Elements 4.0
Digital Photography: Microsoft® Digital Image Suite 2006
Home Video Editing: Pinnacle Studio Plus Titanium
ALX Out Of Box Experience: Exclusive Alienware® ALX Items
Inkjet Printers : Lexmark™ X2350 3-in-1 All-In-One Printer
Inkjet Printers : Epson Stylus® CX4800 All-in-One
Inkjet Printers : Lexmark™ X8350 All-In-One Printer
Ink / Toner: Lexmark #34 High Yield Black Print Cartridge for X8350 printer
Ink / Toner: Lexmark #35 High Yield Color Print Cartridge for X8350 printer
External Storage: Seagate Portable External 40GB Hard Drive
External Storage: Seagate Portable External 100GB Hard Drive
External Storage: Seagate 400GB Pushbutton Backup External Hard Drive
Removable Storage: Alienware® 28-in-1 Digital Media Reader / Writer
Power: Surge Protector - Opti-UPS SS1200 Automatic Voltage Regulator 6 outlets Surge Protector
Power: UPS Power Protection - Opti-UPS ES1500C 1400VA (980W Capacity)
Power: UPS Power Protection - Opti-UPS Power Series PS1500B UPS/Backup/AVR
Power: UPS Power Protection - Tripp Lite LC1200 (1200W Capacity)
Security: APC Personal Biometric USB Pod - Fingerprint Reader
Security: Silex Combo-Mini - Personal USB Fingerprint Reader and SX-Biometrics Suite
Headphones: Sennheiser PC140 Multimedia Headset
Headphones: Zalman ZM-RS6F Surround Headphones
Headphones: Alienware® Ozma 7™ Headphones with S-Logic™ Technology
Game Controllers: Ideazon Zboard™ Battefield 2 Keyset
Game Controllers: Saitek P2600 Rumble Pad
Game Controllers: Saitek P2900 Wireless Pad
Game Controllers: Ideazon Zboard™ Starter System
Game Controllers: Saitek X52 Flight Control System
MP3 Players & Accessories: Alienware® CE-IV 512MB Digital Audio Player - Space Black - Save $20 with Mail-in Rebate!
Accessories: Alienware® HUB Docking Sound System
Compatible with most MP3 Players - Save $50 with Mail-in Rebate!
MP3 Players & Accessories: Alienware® CE-IV 1GB Digital Audio Player - Saucer Silver - Save $30 with Mail-in Rebate!
Accessories: Alienware® HUB Docking Sound System
Compatible with most MP3 Players - Save $50 with Mail-in Rebate!
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Compatible with most MP3 Players - Save $50 with Mail-in Rebate!
KVMP Switches: IOGear® 2-Port MiniView™ Extreme Multimedia KVMP Switch
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And that's before actually looking at the specs and adding/removing stuff.

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Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Ok, so when they mention multiple printers for example, they mean you get all, or choose?

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Old Jul 8, 2006, 02:41 AM Local time: Jul 7, 2006, 11:41 PM #18 of 21
Originally Posted by B4-Hunter
Why everyone keep asking same question over and over? I think I saw clones of this thread all over GFF and most posts in Hardware section have this question in it... am I right?
I for one would like to know regardless, I have only had experience with Nvidia and the new PC I ordered is coming with an ATI. From all of the reviews i have read, both companies usually match up fairly well. So, I'd assume going with either of the newer cards they offer would be fine...

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Old Jul 8, 2006, 02:38 PM Local time: Jul 8, 2006, 02:38 PM #19 of 21
Originally Posted by CryHavoc
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Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Ok, so when they mention multiple printers for example, they mean you get all, or choose?
All. If there's a radio button, I chose the most expensive one. If there were check boxes, they were checked. But really, that's 2GB of Dual-Channel Memory. With all that there, you might as well get a ton more.

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Old Jul 8, 2006, 04:13 PM Local time: Jul 8, 2006, 10:13 PM #20 of 21
My two cents on the ATI/Nvidia wars:
While both companies produce GPUs with roughly the same performance at any given time, there seem to be more game developers who optimize their products for Nvidia cards. At least that's the impression I get from running into the "The way it's meant to be played."-slogan all the time. So when it's a close call between products from either company, I'd probably follow that perceived mainstream. Could just be good marketing though.

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Old Jul 8, 2006, 04:46 PM Local time: Jul 8, 2006, 10:46 PM #21 of 21
Originally Posted by Lukage
You can always go to Alienware and waste money. Here, this is only $17,390.00 before tax.

[1] Aurora™ ALX

Processor: AMD Athlon™ 64 FX-62 Dual Core Processor - Extreme Power!
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional with Service Pack 2
Chassis: Alienware® Full-Tower Case
Chassis Upgrades: Alienware® Acoustic Dampening with AlienIce™ 2.0 Video Cooling
Power Supply: 700 Watt Alienware® Approved Multi-GPU Power Supply
Motherboard: Alienware® Approved NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI Motherboard
Memory: 2GB DDR2 PC-6400 SDRAM at 800MHz - 2 x 1024MB
System Drive: High Performance with Data Security (RAID 1) - 750GB RAID 1 (2 x 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7.200 RPM w/2 x 16MB Cache)
Storage Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 750GB Serial ATA 3Gb/s 7,200 RPM w/16MB Cache
Primary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive w/LightScribe Technology
Blank Media: Verbatim Lightscribe DVD+R 4.7GB 10-Pack in Spindle
Secondary CD ROM/DVD ROM: 16x Dual Layer DVD±R/W Drive w/LightScribe Technology
Blank Media: Verbatim Lightscribe DVD+R 4.7GB 10-Pack in Spindle
Graphics Processor: Quad NVIDIA® SLI™ technology featuring four GeForce® 7900 GPUs
Physics Processing Unit: Ageia PhysX Processing Unit w/ 128MB GDDR3
Supported Games: Bet On Soldier: Bloodsport
Supported Games: City of Villains™
Supported Games: Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
Video Optimizer: AlienAdrenaline: Video Performance Optimizer
Monitor: Dell 30" 2560 x 1600 UltraSharp Widescreen Flat Panel Monitor with HDCP!
Sound Card: High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio - Standard
Speakers: Logitech® Z-5450 Digital 5.1 Speaker System
Communications: Integrated Dual High Performance Gigabit Ethernet
Keyboard: Logitech® Cordless Desktop® MX™ 5000
Mouse: Logitech® MX™ 1000 Laser Cordless Mouse
It's a powerhouse all right... but it supports only three games! Note how the other games (scroll up) are not listed as "supported". =o

I was speaking idiomatically.
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