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Champions League Final: Arsenal v. Barcelona, 2:30PM EST on ESPN2
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Old May 17, 2006, 04:32 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 03:32 PM #76 of 94
Originally Posted by XtremeDJW
Exactly! All the Arsenal fans should all pipe down. They were outplayed in most aspects of the game with Barca constantly pushing against the Arsenal defence.
Because they had ten men, you git. Did you see the beginning of the game? When the Gunners had a full roster, they were dominating.

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Old May 17, 2006, 04:37 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 09:37 PM #77 of 94
I honestly don't think they were dominating that though. I'll hold my hand up though, somehow I forgot that Arsenal were down a man.

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Old May 17, 2006, 04:40 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 03:40 PM #78 of 94
Originally Posted by XtremeDJW
I honestly don't think they were dominating that though. I'll hold my hand up though, somehow I forgot that Arsenal were down a man.
I'd say they were dominating. Thierry had several open looks (and, like I said, hit or miss player... he missed 'em) and Eto and Ronaldinho were kept way outside.

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Old May 17, 2006, 04:54 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 10:54 PM #79 of 94
Arsenal did conceed a goal while at full strength though.

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Old May 17, 2006, 04:57 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 03:57 PM #80 of 94
Originally Posted by Majin yami
Arsenal did conceed a goal while at full strength though.
What? No they didn't, you git. Both goals came at the end of the game, when they were down a man.

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Old May 17, 2006, 04:58 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 10:58 PM #81 of 94
Originally Posted by Denicalis
What? No they didn't, you git. Both goals came at the end of the game, when they were down a man.
I think he meant that goal which was disallowed.

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Old May 17, 2006, 05:01 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 04:01 PM #82 of 94
Originally Posted by El Ray Fernando
I think he meant that goal which was disallowed.
Oh, but then my point would still stand that Arsenal was the aggressor early on. Letting in a goal, fine, but it was Barca's first goal scoring chance compared to Arsenal's fourth or fifth.

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Old May 17, 2006, 05:24 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 11:24 PM #83 of 94
Yeah, maybe should've explained myself better. The bottom line is that Arsenal didn't deserve to win the match. Perhaps if Lehmann had stayed on and things had been different (which judging by the first 20 minutes they would have been) then Arsenal would have won and deservedly so. As it was, the goal they did get was from a dive and after Lehmann was sent off they were outplayed.

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Old May 17, 2006, 05:35 PM Local time: May 17, 2006, 04:35 PM #84 of 94
Originally Posted by Majin yami
Yeah, maybe should've explained myself better. The bottom line is that Arsenal didn't deserve to win the match. Perhaps if Lehmann had stayed on and things had been different (which judging by the first 20 minutes they would have been) then Arsenal would have won and deservedly so. As it was, the goal they did get was from a dive and after Lehmann was sent off they were outplayed.
Oh, ok. That I won't argue with. They definitely pulled up lame when they went down a man.

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Old May 18, 2006, 01:32 AM Local time: May 18, 2006, 07:32 AM #85 of 94
Okay, first of all: The referee was a fucking waste of space, he should have given Barca that goddamn goal and leave Lehmann in game; red card and not counting the goal was just freaking inconsequent. This pretty much runied the entire game which then turned out to be one of the most boring CL finals I've ever watched (and I watched a lot!)

Well whatever, I was hoping Arsenal would win, but I guess it's okay this way. I just don't think it's fair to blame Lehmann for all of this, though. It wasn't really his fault, mainly the Gunner's defense was quite asleep when that all happened.

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Old May 18, 2006, 06:34 AM Local time: May 18, 2006, 11:34 AM #86 of 94
Originally Posted by Musharraf
Okay, first of all: The referee was a fucking waste of space, he should have given Barca that goddamn goal and leave Lehmann in game; red card and not counting the goal was just freaking inconsequent. This pretty much runied the entire game which then turned out to be one of the most boring CL finals I've ever watched (and I watched a lot!)

Well whatever, I was hoping Arsenal would win, but I guess it's okay this way. I just don't think it's fair to blame Lehmann for all of this, though. It wasn't really his fault, mainly the Gunner's defense was quite asleep when that all happened.
Its a tough call to make though. Lehamann clearly made the foul though, taking out the last player an' all.

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Old May 18, 2006, 08:21 AM Local time: May 18, 2006, 02:21 PM #87 of 94
Yes, but the referee should have counted the goal so that Lehmann would have gotten away with a yellow card instead of a red one, in my opinion.

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Old May 18, 2006, 11:52 AM Local time: May 18, 2006, 10:52 AM #88 of 94
Originally Posted by Musharraf
Yes, but the referee should have counted the goal so that Lehmann would have gotten away with a yellow card instead of a red one, in my opinion.
I'm with Mushy. It basically killed the game. And after the stellar final we got last year. *sigh* Disappointments galore.

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Old May 18, 2006, 12:47 PM #89 of 94
Well, if he calls the advantage, would there still be a card?

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Old May 18, 2006, 12:50 PM Local time: May 18, 2006, 11:50 AM #90 of 94
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Well, if he calls the advantage, would there still be a card?
If he did, it would be for dangerous play and it'd be a yellow.

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Old May 18, 2006, 12:55 PM Local time: May 19, 2006, 01:55 AM #91 of 94
I didn't find the final to be all that bad, to be honest. Certainly not one of the best, but far from bad. hullo milan vs juve

It did get a bit boring though -- I was semi-drifting away (I have to watch my CL matches at 2~4 in the morning, live telecasts and all) just before Eto'o scored Barca's first. Thinking back, if he hadn't scored there it would probably have been Thierry Henry lifting the cup.

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Old May 18, 2006, 01:11 PM Local time: May 18, 2006, 12:11 PM #92 of 94
Originally Posted by Schadenfreude
I didn't find the final to be all that bad, to be honest. Certainly not one of the best, but far from bad. hullo milan vs juve

It did get a bit boring though -- I was semi-drifting away (I have to watch my CL matches at 2~4 in the morning, live telecasts and all) just before Eto'o scored Barca's first. Thinking back, if he hadn't scored there it would probably have been Thierry Henry lifting the cup.
Whatever... at least this World Cup I don't really love any one team. All I can do is sit back and hope my Boy Zidane has a good showing. World Cup will make up for lousy Champions League. *sigh*

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Old May 18, 2006, 02:06 PM Local time: May 18, 2006, 03:06 PM #93 of 94
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Mate, I live in Canada. I'm not from Canada. And also, I've seen your team. It's pretty easy when you buy out other players with citizenship and large contracts. And no, you won't surprise anyone. Sorry. Stick to your ladies team. They're pretty good.
MATE, i have a tissue for your crying. boo-hoo....

Ladies team huh? stick w/f-n hockey.

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Old May 18, 2006, 02:10 PM Local time: May 18, 2006, 01:10 PM #94 of 94
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MATE, i have a tissue for your crying. boo-hoo....

Ladies team huh? stick w/f-n hockey.
I AM NOT FROM CANADA. And even if I was, I'm so far beyond you in terms of tossing insults that I could be Canadian, have no football team whatsoever, and still embarass you infront of a crowd of people. Now crawl back under your rock until you're able to grasp simple concepts like the fact that I live in Canada doesn't mean I'm from there originally. I'm sorry... did you play high level footie in europe? No? Then shut the fuck up, gomer pyle.

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