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[News] The "I too liked Xenogears' second disc" Club
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 03:28 PM #1 of 78
I'm surprised they haven't started on a remake of VI similiar to the DS version of FFIV. I am not a huge fan of VI but I would still play it and might even enjoy it more than the original.

I think more people would embrace a VII remake however and in the long run it would make more money. They obviously know how wildly popular VII is thanks to how many fans it is, the sales of Advent Children and Crisis Core (which is pretty much why almost anyone owns a PSP even though they game ended up sucking).

I see a few foreseeable problems with VII being remade though.

-Battle System: Do you use the original one with just updated graphics or put in something new? For the most part, turn based rpgs are dead. They don't appeal to that many people anymore as most rpg fans are bored of them by this point. So they would have to risk putting in something new and hoping it won't ruin the experience for fans.

- The game wouldn't be as well received as it should be. We are now in an age where people look at the bad rather than the good. Nitpicking seems to be the latest trend and even if the game turns out to be amazing...people will still find something wrong it...either due to douchebaggery or because expectations are so high. Then of course you will have the fucktards who will try to be trendy by saying "DURR THE ORIGINAL IS SO MUCH BETTER...REMAKE SUCKXXXX"

- Which console. It is nice having two consoles that are pretty much on the same level. If a remake is announced it would be incredibly stupid to just have it on one system. Sony fanboys will flip out if it comes to the x360, I mean they are still complaining that FFXIII is available on the 360...imagine how it will be if a game that is pretty much the most known PSX game had a remake that came out on the 360.

- Tifa's breast size. Will they be proportioned to the right size or will they be again oversized in 1080p to appease all the fapping nerds?

I love how that Tech demo looks dated all these years later.

It'll happen, but if I may, I propose a sequel to FF8. "Why!?" the masses will say! "Why not?" would say Square.
It wouldn't make much sense to have one, theres really nothing left to tell.

"Ok here you guys go, FFVIII-2"

"Why? It makes no sense, the story was bad to begin with so why try to continue it"

"Because it is what you guys want!"

"No, it isn't"

("...Whatever")

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Old Jan 6, 2010, 03:42 PM #2 of 78
Logically V would be next for a handheld remake. Which is very exciting indeed.


Haha, in Japan, perhaps. You know, the place where they hate the gaijin circlebox anyway.
V was pretty terrible. I played it some years ago and found the classes part of it to be mildly interesting for 10 minutes then I let the story take over. The Pokemon cartoon had a better storyline than FFV.

And regardless of your feelings about FFVII, it is probably the most known and most played game from the PSX in just about any country it was available in. I do not know anyone that had a PSX that didn't at one time own or play FFVII. Most people here recognize that it was overrated and are tired of hearing about it some 12 years later but you can't take away that it was successful.

To be quite honest I would much rather be typin in a "Xenogears to get remake" thread rather than the 1,456th Final Fantasy VII remake thread.

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Old Jan 6, 2010, 05:17 PM #3 of 78
Next in line is another FF4 redux.

This time for Sega Saturn.
FF4 is the new FF1?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jan 6, 2010, 10:26 PM #4 of 78
I do not agree with that statement that turn based rpg's are dead. If people are bored with them then its their problem. I think the fact that Dragon Quest IX was best selling game in 2009 in Japan shows that a lot of people are still willing to deal with the turn based system.
Well that is the problem right there. What sells in Japan doesn't always sell well in North America or Europe. You see alot of RPG titles sell well in Japan but over here they do god awful (Tales series comes to mind). I'm not saying turn base is bad but its been overdone and for the most part people are sick of it.

if FFIV were remade for next-gen consoles, you wouldn't see me bitching one bit.

Hell, I remember way back when Square had it rumored to remake 1-9 on PS2 in the graphics of 10... Then... Spirits Within happened and... yea.

OR HAY GUIZ, it could be a giant cross-over with all the main characters from Square games in one giant RPG! (lawl, traditional RPG, not shiity Kingdom Hearts or Dissidia)
I enjoyed FFIV, but I think it will just be weird if its remade onto a next gen console. Expectations would end up being too high and theres not promise that the story will transition well. Someone touched on that with Xenogears and I can see where they are coming from after I think about it.

I remember those remake rumors too, it would of been stupid since alot of the appeal of Final Fantasy is that the graphics are different with each installment. Using the same graphics would make them all look similiar which would of just been lame.

Cross-over ideas never really work well because its hard to pull a story out of that. Kingdom Hearts does an ok job but is still corny. Dissidia was a train wreck and even other series the cross over games are bad (Tales of the World 1 + 2).

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Old Jan 7, 2010, 04:31 PM #5 of 78
This argument couldn't be truer for every FF sequel that exists. Money talks, creativity walks.

PS: There are people that liked 8, as crazy as that sounds.
Yeah but really I think 8 had the most closure in its ending. The ending was everyone happy and dancing and celebrating at some stupid Garden party. The games that have had sequels were probably intended to have sequels from the get go, at least thats what I always felt about X and X-2...regardless of how bad X-2 was. Not sure about VII (a CG movie counts I guess) but I don't think it was planned, like you said money talks and they basically realized there was an audience that would eat up anything related to FFVII.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Feb 15, 2010, 09:06 PM #6 of 78
I'm jumping on the XenoGears bandwagon.

I paid for two discs, I want to PLAY on two discs--not that exposition crap I got.
After thinking about that some more, I don't know. I'd love some more Xenogears action but I feel only a mild makeover would do it justice. It doesn't need to be transitioned into amazing PS3/X360 graphics ala Final Fantasy XIII but rather just improvement on the visuals while keeping the same look. PSP would be good, depending on if it could fit on a UMD, or do they even use those anymore? I have an old psp but heard talk that the new ones are all digital.

As far as the Final Fantasy VII remake...I still maintain that it would cause way too much hype that it couldn't live up to. For some reason people credit it as the great role playing game of all time. While I think it is ok, and was probably the first GREAT rpg on the Playstation (and think about it, back then other consoles didn't give up much in terms of competition...unless you count the god awful Quest 64 or Shining Force III or rather 1/3 of Shining Force III). Pretty much everyone who plays RPGs has either played FFVII or have heard the great things about it (some are exaggerated...alot).

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