[PC] World of Warcraft

Painweaver band should go to a hunter or rogue before a warrior. Fury warriors can kiss my ass, they should get things last.

Funny sory about that Dal'Rend, when I rerolled on Turalyon in March and leveled up to 60...my first UBRS run ...Rend dropped both the Sacred Charge and Tribal Guardian for my sword rogue. I was very very happy.

We raided Naxx tonight, death knight wing trash pulls are easy....first boss is not.

Double Post:

Originally Posted by dagget

Sadly, that's where most UBRS PUG runs end. Right before General. Either due to the faggotry of one or two people, or someone getting bitchy about a past drop in the instance and bitch. It's always something. 9 times out of 10 you're the one that gets blamed, even if the person who's fault it was is screaming it at you.

Lord V is a bitch of a boss anyway. I'm dreading when I have to fight him, really.

I did him a couple weeks ago, easy fight if you know what to do. Kill Shades...they are priority. DPS him from behind unless you are main tank...and when he starts shadow bolting...DPS the hell out of him. Killed him twice, warlock got his awesome looking staff. Sad part is, I can upgrade the last two pieces of Shadowcraft...but ive yet to get the tunic. :/

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Gechmir

Well. Ran ZG tonite. With my guild and an old buddy who made the 20th member (priest). Never ran ZG with this one guy before. But CHRIST. He takes more breaks than a 400lb man climbing stairs, to quote my friend. THREE HOURS to kill the Serpent, Bat, & Spider bosses. THREE HOURS. Hell, probably closer to four now that I think about it.

Hits 1:30am and I pull the plug on my modem to stealth-quit. Since they were taking ANOTHER break but this involved going to IF.

But, after killing the Spider, this hummer dropped:
http://www.thottbot.com/?i=53638

Outrolled five warrior for this. Darned nice ring ;D

I hate doing ZG with people who are not in my guild/people I do not know. Our guild uses DKP for ZG but its great because its such a small amount. Last night was awesome run for me, picked up both the band/seal of jin, that +40 ap ring, Fang of the Faceless (im not dagger but figured hell I will take it) and my idol for my ZG enchant.

On another note, i fucking hate the paid transfers. They have officially ruined the community of our server. Our guild was top for a while...only having just cleared BWL for the third time, gates of AQ not open yet and a established guild that has cleared AQ over four times decided to transfer to a server thats under four months old. Translation, they are decked out in AQ gear on a server that doesnt have access to AQ yet. In addition, they have fucked up everyones pvp ranks. We had a guy who would of made Grand Marshal this week and had earned over 300k honor this past week, but because of the new transfers he actually went from rank 13 down to almost 11. Its pretty lame.

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We finally progressed into AQ40 after opening the gates. I must say the guy who did all the bug farming for brood rep is one lucky sumbish...as that legendary mount looks badass in Ironforge.

Im surprised though, we managed to take down Skerum and the royal bug trio in the first shot, but called it quits after that. I think we are gonna take another stab at the Instructor guy in Naxx before reset. >< I cant wait to do Patchwerk

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Exciting stuff, we saved BWL for tonight since we have been working on AQ40 all of late last week and over the weekend and hot dayum. We recruited 2 new rogues, and our rule is you must accumulate 300 lifetime dkp before you can win an item over a full fledged member. Razorgore - Bloodfang Bracer. Vael - BF Belt (had it though). Broodlord - Maladath and BF Boots, Chromaggus BF Shoulders and finally Nefarian dropped double bloodfang chest. So I got 5 bloodfang pieces in one night plus a badass sword. This week really gave me alot of improvements, Nightmare Blade + Maladath, 5 pieces of BF, Eye of Hakkar, Strikers Mark, and Seal of the Gurubashi Bezerker (its like +11 stam +40 ap). I think I made out well this week, although when the normal rogues come back I am so far tanked in DKP I won't win anything for a while. I must say though, I love the Nightblade/Maladath combination, its going to be so sweet with the new weapon skill specialization

I was speaking idiomatically.

Ill actually agree though about Shamans. I really do not get people who complain that they cannot bring anything to a raid. They can heal therefor thats what they are supposed to do. I guess most players want them to have more of a purpose but really want do you want? Them to give up healing and dps? Sure why not, let druids stop healing and spec feral so they can dps too!

Everyone is always going to complain about what their raid role is, the only time it can be different is in warriors who can trade off being melee dps and tanking when needed. As a rogue I know I always will be DPSing, thats what I do. Yeah it gets boring sometimes but its optimal. I know the "crymore" is a symbol of the lame trolls on the WoW forums but its seriously what I think so many of these people need to do.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I am a rogue and I can tell you that nothing is wrong with the cooldowns. It is not like they are on a shared cooldown, in pvp you can blind someone and easily get away from them if needed. You can also Sprint, Vanish etc to get away or turn the tide in your favor. If you could do all three of these within 3 minutes, that would clearly be overpowering the class for pvp. The Sprint buff is a huge pvp advantage now, not only can you break movement effects but you can break out and run faster towards your goal.

Zio you get forced into daggers? That really blows, we got to pick what spec we want, our balance is somewhat nice to, we have about 3 20/31 sword rogues, a few seal fate dagger and even a combat dagger rogue. Weapon drops have been sick for us lately, in 2 months of BWL we have seen 3 Maladaths, 4 Claw of the Blake Drake's, 3 Nightmare Blades, 3 Vis'kags and tonight our first Ancient Qiraji Ripper. So no complains from me on what spec I am.

AQ sucks by the way, im disappointed after hearing how impossibly hard some of the fights were. In about 2 weeks we are already up to Huhuran and 75% of the guild had never stepped into AQ before. Meh oh well.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Xellos

No, sorry, that's bullshit. 50-60 is smooth sailing. Plenty of high level areas with enough quests to get you to 60 just by doing quests.

40-50 is HELL. Not enough quests or areas. Incredibly slow and boring. It's what prevented me from leveling my 5th level 60 character...I just couldn't stand the 40->50 barrier anymore.

40 to 50 is ezmode. Just run 5 man instances and you will make it. RFD from 40-42, Ulda from 42-45ish, and then Mara.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by The_Griffin

NO. Uldaman is utter shit. Period. Not only is it hella hard to finish (I fucking loathe that golem with the adds), but it's also insanely difficult to navigate.

I went like this: SM from 40-42, RFD every so often, then ground out to around 44 and started running Zul'Farrak, then Maraudon.

Uldaman isnt the best instance but it still can give you an easy level or two if you run it with all the quests. Problem with a few of the quests is that you have to run multiple times which to me isn't so bad because I know my way around it. ZF isn't a bad choice either as with my last re-roll my first run through the place I picked up both of those 1h swords that combine into the epic 2her. It did me no good since I am a rogue but it was funny to make people in my guild cry.

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Horde side .5 quests start in Silithus?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

OIC. Alliance side is in Ironforge and you have to collect bloods from Winterspring. I love the questline, it was challenging and epic and I enjoyed it. The rewards arent that bad especially since you don't need to raid to get the stuff. Plus...Darkmantle set is perhaps the coolest looking set in the game. Its sad that .5 armor looks 10x better than the AQ sets. Appearance wise..not stat wise.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by dagget

I'm looking for a really good DPS/Sword build for my rogue. I don't want to go daggers (even though I guess there are some really decent daggers, I'd just rather keep swords )

I've messed with the talent calculator and came up with this build:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=nGxboxZMxEzMV0xc

But I've heard since 1.12, there have been some pretty good stuff to be had in Subtlety.

Before I go re-spend my points, I'd like to know of any good builds that I could use, mainly to farm Tyr's Hand/solo elites with.

I now use 18/33/0

I went with swords this time around putting points into Malice, Imp SnD, making sure I got relentless strikes and picking up the new weapon specialization skill. I can bring out some fantastic damage, but I think my gear really compliments the spec. I have 6/8 of my Bloodfang, and using the other two slots Nightslayer. Hand of Justice and Drake Fang Talisman, plus wielding a Ancient Qiraji Ripper and Offhanding Iblis. So like I said, it really depends on what gear you have.

Do you have a CTprofile? What would you be using as far as gear and weapons go? I too dislike daggers which is why I have managed to get such great stuff so far. I am the only rogue out of 7 in guild that uses swords and we only have 1 fury warrior..so the great sword drops are shared between us.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=jhxroxZMhEz0Vzxfo

Thats the build I use now, Imp SnD is great for increasing DPS (trust me..you need to have very high DPS on almost anything after Sartura in AQ and everything in Naxx) I noticed that with your build you skipped stuff like Blade Flurry and Adrenaline Rush, is your rogue non raiding? Imp Kick is pretty much useless in PVE content (annoying as hell in PVP though)

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Originally Posted by Xellos

Nah not me. The name is too common unfortunately. Was taken on every server I tried.

I'm the noble warrior Valerium.

And...lol? no rogues that use swords? are they fucking retarded? Backstab is awesome but once you get these high-end swords, swords in the way to go, along with blade flurry, adrenaline rush and sword spec. I don't see why your rogues don't get this. On my server it was quite the opposite...I don't even remember any rogues that used daggers in raids.

Well we had a few that used swords but they ended up not playing anymore so we lost them. We only have about 6 maybe 7 rogues...who are all either combat daggers, hemo or seal fate spec. Daggers have been a horrible drop rate for us. I think since we started raiding in early May we have only seen one Gutgore Ripper, one Dragonfang Blade and one Core Hound Tooth.

Swords on the other hand, hell we can't give them out fast enough. Three weeks in a row on Broodlord we got a Maladath to drop. Eventually a paladin took it just to play around with it since no other classes wanted it. I can't complain though, Ive picked up just about every weapon I have ever wanted. Right now sitting in my bank unused are Nightmare Blade, Maladath, Chromatically Tempered Sword, Brutality Blade and Claw of the Black Drake. Its ridiculous.

Comparing daggers vs swords, i think both can dish out good damage but I end up topping the damage meters over them. I think maybe once we pick up some of the 60+ DPS daggers that will change.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by The_Griffin

So I join a group running LBRS tonight. About a half hour later, we FINALLY find a mage and a hunter (had me, a warrior, and a druid), and we head over. Eventually, the mage says "Hey, my GM wants to come along as well to help us out, but if he comes we can't do any quests." Meh, I figure. I'll get them done another time. He joins up, and a shadow priest (<3 shadow priests) comes along as well.

Smoothest. Run. Ever. Literally 3 deaths in the entire run. Not a single wipe. And on top of that, two pieces of the Elements dropped (the boots and the cord; boots are... meh. Very, very, meh), and like 3-4 Valor bracers dropped as well... but I didn't win a single one.

Aside from that, though, not much dropped for me. I'm stoked about getting the Elements drops, though. Now I can actually continue my Tier .5 quest. ='D

Wait...Smooth run is 3 deaths? LBRS is pretty easy, even with just 5 people going along. I think the only challenging part is the Firebrand people if you pull more then you can handle.

Ditch the .5 stuff and just try to do some ZG or AQ20 runs, the tier 0 and .5 stuff is really lame and definatly not worth what you have to do to upgrade it (although doing it the first time is fun as Lord Vathalak is one of my favorite fights).

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Fucking Nefarian..

drops double Wrath BP and double

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=19363

what a bitchface...

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by dagget

rofl. Happy warriors make happy tanks. :P

One of each piece was sharded though...the first Nefarian kill where we sharded half the loot. We have about 8 warriors in guild, I would say 5 are geared up to tank the others for DPS. I would personally take the wrath gear even if I was DPS in that one offchance that I might have to tank something one day.

How ya doing, buddy?

We only have one full protection speced warrior, all others have enough points in protection but have talents allotted elsewhere. 2 people in guild have that axe now, no one else wanted it for some reason. Just about every warrior has a decent tanking weapon (Quel or better) and our maintank usually tanks with Thunderfury (unless on fights where the proc aggros nonaggressive adds ala Twin Emps). I would of taken the axe if rogues could use axes, its a pretty sick weapon.

Warrior week continues as just about every drop in AQ last night was something for a warrior.

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=52780

Three fury warriors are now MHing these, its pretty ridiculous because one of our rogues who transferred said he did AQ for two months and never saw one drop and we have seen 5.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Awesomeness! We finally managed to down the Twin Emps last night, which turned out to be surprisingly easy based on how our last attempts before was. You know, as much as I hate AQ40 trash pulls some of the boss fights are awesome. The Twin Emps fight was actually fun, which I guess makes up for how f'n lame Skeram and Sartura are. We are making a serious attempt at C'thun this Saturday but I have my doubts about being able to do it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Xellos

I wouldn't classify twins as easy even if you mastered the tactic. You still need 100% focus of a lot of people. If DPS stay too long it's over, if tanks don't move it's over. If tanks die it's over.

C'thun is even harder to learn. That stupid phase 1 eye beam gets so many people...your going to have to be patient for a while.

Yeah we learned about staying too long in our first attempts on them, but now we all pretty much were synced enough to where it only took one wipe to kill them. Hopefullly next weeks will go as smoothly.

We tried C'thun tonight, after about 6 wipes we finally got phase 1 down. And yeah, the spacing is ridiculous as some people clearly are retarded about getting too close. It wasn't too bad once people learned how to move properly though. First time we got through phase 1, half the raid was dead. Second time only about 5, so im betting next week we are going to focus on keeping everyone alive, that way we can have a decent shot at him. Was a pretty good week though, we picked up 4 Pugio's due to use clearly to C'thun...should help out dps a bit.

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Originally Posted by The_Griffin

Yeah, I'm heading into MC for the first time this Saturday. I really should do some BRD runs to get better fire resist (sitting at an amazing 33 resist unbuffed), but I haven't had too much time lately. =(

We'll see how it goes. Hopefully with any luck I can get some drops, although I doubt I will.

While Fire Resist helps on Ragnaros, it really is not required. I think on our first try, I had about 50 fire resistance and managed to live through the fight. \

Dagget it sounds like you guys need to up your DPS to kill Rag faster. Right now we are at the point of killing him before the sons come out, and even when we first tried him, we were getting him down to 35-40%. Prophet Skeram is a pain in the ass to do, especially when people are retarded on that fight. Overall its probably the 2nd easiest AQ fight though. I will say it is ashame you might nto see more of AQ before the expansion. I still think the single most fun boss fight in the game so far is the Twin Emps fight once you learn you. Im sure the fun will be taken out of it after the expansion so its ashame for anyone to miss out on that

Anyway, we have C'thun almost down, but it got too late and people had to go to bed. We have just about killed everything in Naxx that we can do at this point (Loatheb, Gothik, Heigan, Horsemen ..we aren't ready for yet) but are being cockblocked by Patchwerk and the insane DPS you need for him. Closest we got was a fullly buffed attempt and he was down to 16%. Hopefully we get him this week.

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Originally Posted by The_Griffin

God fucking dammit, Thorium Brotherhood's economy is so fucked up.

Magister's Belts going for TEN GOLD.

Nightblades going up for one-hundred and fifty gold (I actually bought one for FIFTY gold). And people UNDERCUTTING that price.

It's fucking impossible to make ANYTHING these days. Seriously, this server is either filled to the brim with gold farmers or complete fucktards. >=(

All Tier 0 gear sucks , anyone who would even pay 10g is out of their damn mind. If you wanna make money your best bet is to just farm the hell out of Tyr's hand or the Twilight Cultist's in Silithus. Tyr's guys drop decent amount of money, runecloth and those grey trash items that can sell for up to 1g each. The Twilight guys drop the cultist sets that can sell on AH pretty decently.

How ya doing, buddy?

I was stuck at 7/8 T2 forever, never could get the gloves to drop...but last night picked up 4/5 of my AQ set...4 Deathdealer, just need C'thun now to finish it off. I was also lucky enough to pick up my T3 bracers this week so im actually sitting on some pretty decent gear...with more weapons then I know what to do with. Currently using Ancient Qiraji Ripper and Iblis...works great...owning the hell out of the dagger guys we have.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by BucPride

Sounds like someone's dying to kill Illidan Dag if that is true. 70 in two weeks? Yeah, not gonna happen.

Its possible, we already had someone make level 70...28 hours after he started on Turalyon. His guild also has a fair amount of people who are 67+.

FELIPE NO

I really do not get why people complain so much about the attunements. I think it is a well thought out system and gives people a reason to play their best. Basically you need to do a bunch of level 70 5 man instances to get a key fragment before you are able to take part in the first raid instance. After that, with the exception of Mag and Gruul's Lair...everything else you have to be at a certain skill level as a guild to get attuned to. Yeah, its tedious just to get attuned for Karazhan...but I kind of like it that way.

I do have a few odd and end things to complain about though, first being the heroic instance system. This, in my opinion, is a great system at first. You get to do earlier TBC instances that you might of done leveling up...but at a harder difficulty with new loot thats useful at 70. The only downfall to this is some of the later instances (Tempezt Keep, Black Morass, Steamvaults, Shadowlabs, Shattered Halls) have pretty much the same loot tables as their non herioc counterpart. The last boss of each has a few new epic drops that are available, but thats it. So whats the point besides attunement? Never made sense to me.

Im not a fan of the looking for group system either, since TBC I have not done one single PUG of anything. Perhaps I could, but the LFG tool makes it hard to organize a group. I think the LFG channel, while spammed with nonsense, often got groups going more then this retarded tool. Perhaps then I would pug stuff more and finish grinding out my Lower City rep and be exalted with all the new reputations.

I also think Blizzard could of done a little more with the old world stuff. I think heroic versions of some of the level 60 instances would of been a nice bonus and a nice challenge. The two new starting areas are brilliantly done...perhaps too brilliant. If I roll an alt...why would I quest in my starting area when I can go to Azuremyst Isle and get quest rewards that actually make sense? Cloth boots with +str and +int really never sat well with me. I think alot of stuff could of been reworked to make leveling up to have a purpose.

All in all ...so far the expansion has treated me well. Alot of people are complaining at how hard the raid content is. Ive heard guilds whine that Shade of Aran is impossible. Once he is down, I hear that Gruul is impossible. Being apart of a guild that pretty much tore through Karazahn in a few weeks, went through Gruul's and now has one boss in Serpent Shrine down...I can't wait to hear the semi-hardcore guilds whine about how hard Serpent Shrine is. Its kind of annoying that bosses like Gruul get nerfed to "cater" to these guilds that claim hes too hard. Anyway, I digress.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

You have wayyyyy too much defense. You only need 490, no less, no more. Your hp is also far too low. The tanks I raid with, hell even the new tanks who are undergeared have at least 14k life. Once you have 490 def, you want to focus on stam and then avoidance...that will get you far as a tank. Id use solid star of elune in almost every gem slot if I were you.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

509 isnt bad, alot of gear overcompensates...just so you are above 490 you wont ever get crushed. Having over 600 is just overkill though, since you are most likely losing out on alot of stamina that youd need.

The game is now either hit or miss, people are sick of raiding Karazhan and Gruuls. You really have to be on the ball to kill Magtheridon or even to stand a chance in SSC/TK. However, if your guild manages to make it through SSC/TK...the game really picks up fun. Raiding BT and Hyjal brought me back to how I used to enjoy raiding...I guess its just a slow bumpy start. They should of put in a big entry level raid dungeon for 25 man...I think that would of helped keep interest going.

Naxxramas as the first 25 man raid in the new expansion is going to be a huge step in the right direction...I just hope Naxx will still have the same appeal.

There's nowhere I can't reach.