[Wii] Official Nintendo Wii thread

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I'll just start by saying I'll be very disappointed if Resident Evil Wii is yet another remake of the first game (which looks that way from the mansion shot).

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We're saying it's too expensive because EA claimed the price would be $170. Sure, $250 is still more than half the PS3's price, but it's still a bit of a letdown.

We're still lacking the complete facts, especially on the release date, but based on the current news there's good and bad news all around.

Price

The good: It's cheap

The bad: Not as cheap as EA claimed.

Game

The good: Comes with a free game.

The bad: Doesn't sound to be a very long game (online play would make up for it, though)

Remote

The good: Extra remote is cheap.

The bad: Nunchuck must be bought seperately.

more bad: Batteries!? I thought the remote was re-chargable.

Virtual Console

The good: Wide selection from the start, more coming from big name developers (square you say?)

The bad: The prices. $5 for NES games, $8 for SNES, and $10 for N64? You can buy most of the actual games for less. Heck you can download them for free using the most basic emulator you can find. I liked my idea that for every purchase of a Wii game you're entitled to a free download relating to that series (ie buy Mario Galaxy, get a free download of 3 or so Mario games).

What would help justify the price is if they added some good bonus content with each game, like artwork, commercials, and such.

Release Date

The good: uh, it's this year?

The bad: It'll really suck if it's in December, but it's still a bit of a letdown if it's November. It was heavily rumored for a while that we'd get it in October, but instead we'll have to wait slightly longer for it than the PS3.

Anyway, as it currently stands, I'm undecided on what I'll be getting first, the Wii or PS3. I guess TGS will be the deciding factor, but that won't stop me from enjoying the newest info.

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Metal Slug Anthology

Publisher: SNK Playmore
Developer: SNK Playmore
Players: 2
Play Style: Unknown
Genre: Action Compilation

Description: Another mysterious announcement, Metal Slug Anthology has been confirmed as a launch title for Wii as well. Little information has been released about this classic compilation, but we do know it will offer the five main Metal Slug titles (Metal Slug - Metal Slug 5) in one package. SNK tells us that the arcade classics have been revamped to use the Wii-mote. It's possible that you'll be able to gesture a flick of the controller to toss a grenade. In all honesty, it doesn't really matter how much new generation control Metal Slug decides to incorporate, as we're simply overjoyed that such an awesome compilation of arcade goodness will be hitting Wii at launch. Classic.

This is one occasion where I can encourage as many ports as possible. Just imagine the possibilities.

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I have some small concerns with the functionality of the remote. Did anyone else notice in the official videos that the cursor looked a bit jittery when they were navigating the avatar menu? It could've just been that the guy controlling it wasn't keeping his arm still enough, but I do worry that the remote's sensitivity could get damaged very easily. It goes without saying that Nintendo creates more durable hardware than Sony, but I still imagine that the remote would be the most likely part of the system to become faulty out of the box.

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Most of the people who are playing the Wii currently, aren't used to the controls. There's apparently a learning curve with the Wii remote, but that's no big surprise.

But the guys handling those videos were Nintendo professionals. I would've expected them to have a better grasp of the remote. I'm sure there's going to be some learning to be done from the start (which I'm actually looking forward to, as it instantly reminds me of the days when I had to adjust to using my first NES controller, and again with the N64 and it's then-new analog stick). I'm just worried that no matter how good you are, it may be a pain to get the remote to point at specific menu icons.

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I still don't get the bitching over the VC console prices. I mean, they are optional, its not like they're forcing people to buy the fucking things. They cost the same as XBL arcade games, which people are perfectly fine with.

First of all, most XBL games are brand new, or at least offer online mutiplayer to justify the price. The reason we're bitching is because we want to use the Wiimulator (yes, I'm still calling it that. Screw "Virtual Console"), because playing pefectly ported games with a slight visual upgrade (even if it's minimal) on your TV is still better than playing an emulated game that may sometimes crash on your PC.

Like I said before, if each game offered something extra, like online mutiplayer or a bonus gallery of artwork, commercials, and such, then it'd be worth the price. Otherwise the free alternative, bugs aside, still wins out.

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I'm not going to get into a thing where the same people who laughed it up that the PS3 wouldn't come with an HDMI cable are now downplaying Nintendo's similar scenario with only providing AV cables.

What I will get into is the latest information concerning that BS pre-order. The word around is that this promotion is only for the Gamestops in Hawaii, and will very likely not happen in the US.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/09/16/ru...p-reservation/

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Oh a side note, the Wii also doesn't have an audio digital out. If the "new" component cable also have the audio cable together then it would be a hassle for those who wants to connect the video to a TV and the audio to a surround sound. On the GCN it was easier since you actually using two cable.

God, how freaking gay. It was bad enough with the GC, where I would barely hook it up to my home theater, since I had to manually connect it every time, unlike the PS2 which is always connected. This is why it should've been cheaper than $250.

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What do you expect?? The Wii is barely more powerful then the GCN, which was barely more powerfull the the X-box1. So of course it's not going to look much better then the X-box one.

Then, by your definition, shouldn't the Wii be more powerful than the Xbox?

I know there's a limit to what Wii can do graphically, but I hope it's far better than that shot. That's not just ugly, that's N64 ugly.

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EB/Gamestop supposedly will pay $50 in store credit for a GC right now, which is tempting.

I'd take them up on that offer, but since I don't plan to buy a Wii until December or January, I don't want to be stuck without a GC when I get the sudden urge to finish Metroid Prime 2 or Paper Mario.

The whole deal with the component cables is indeed bullshit, but I at least felt content that I wouldn't have to partake in that nonsense since I had a component cable for the GC. And since everything else is compatible with the Wii, the cables should be no different, right?

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GameCube component cables are incompatible with Wii. Most Wii titles will run in 480p in 16:9.

.......goddamit, Nintendo. Thanks for forcing us to fork over another $30 just for cables that will likely be sold out during launch.

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I better not hear any fanboys like Grubdog justify this in any way

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I wasn't aware there was a USB cable for the DS, nor what it does. But I doubt it's as essential as a component cable is for higher-end TV users. The PS3 is compatible with PS2 component cables along with any kind of HDMI cable, so it truly sucks that Nintendo didn't bother to follow suit.

This turns that $250 console into a $280 one (a waste of $30 that could've gone towards Zelda or any other game).

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There's a pretty big difference from spending $7-$10 to $30. Also, I only plan to buy at least one more controller for my sister to use, and that won't be for a while. It isn't as big a priority as getting your system to look its best on day one, which is now much more difficult than it should have been (online availability).

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'Sup, South Florida. The GS closest to me might have their kiosk set up by tommorow, too. I'll stop over if that's the case.

Turning in keys is a good idea, but there could always be some sneaky kids turning in a fake pair of keys or just copies. But they'll most likely have a camera pointed squarely on the display as well. There shouldn't be any problems monitoring anyone handling the remote, unlike a huge store like Best Buy where it can be easy to slip out.

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Though I haven't seen it, I read that the Zelda portion of the Gamespot video is too embarassing to watch. They take nearly an hour just on the first tutorial mini-quest, and they refer to Link as "Zelda". What the hell, that's a mistake you make when you're 7, not as a gaming "professional".

Also, I'm actually a bit more worried about the Wii being faulty out of the box over PS3. One of their remotes broke as soon as they started using it.

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I just got back from my local Gamestop, and managed to have some hands-on with the Wii.

The store apparently had a broken AC, evidiced by the circling fans and MASSIVE FREAKING HEAT. Still, I was determined to try out the Wii. Sure enough, there was a kiosk near the entrance, to the right of a Gamecube kiosk. Funny enough, no one was playing it, or paying any real attention to it. Perhaps they weren't aware that the clerk has to hand you the remote. I turned in my keys and was handed the remote.

The first thing I was curious about ever since I saw pics was how big the actuall remote was, especially when held by my giant gorilla hands. I had an idea, but it turns out it was much smaller than I had anticipated.

(following pics were taken on my motorolla razr. crappy quality ahead. no, my arm isn't that brown)



It's pretty small; I could fit the whole thing between my middle finger and thumb. The material is about the same as previous Nintendo controllers, although the battery lid on the back might get a bit annoying after extended plays.

As with other kiosks, Excitetruck was on display. I first asked if there were other choices available (Wii Sports, Zelda), but no go. It took me a couple of minutes to figure out the button placement ("Why isn't it responding? Oh wait, that's a '2', not a 'Z'). Having read previous reports, I held the remote correctly while controlling the trucks. The truck controls well enough, steering left and right as you turn the remote, but it wasn't quite precise enough for me. I tried adjusting with different tactics, but I could only improve things a little. I physically moved my shoulders left to right, which helped a little, but I actually found the controls a bit better when steering with just one hand (balancing the remote with my hand in the middle).

Basically, I did the best I could, but it wasn't anything special. I tried the 3 different modes; the first one required me to go through rings in a set time, but I always ran out of time after the 2nd or 3rd ring. The next mode had me try to collect symbols in the air, but no matter how steady I kept the truck, I always ended up under the symbol. The third mode was the best, where I had to search for other trucks and crash into them.

Visually, the draw distance was very nice, along with the terrain, but ultimately the claims of "Gamecube 1.5" hold true. In the end, while I know people like Infernal are real excited for this game, I'd rather wait until they make a racer with more precise wiimote controls.

I had more fun messing around with the Wii Menu.



I liked how the remote gave a small rumble with every movement I made. While navigating the icons isn't as precise as pointing your finger, it wasn't hard to keep the laser steady while I made my choices. The photo browser, weather channel and other features required an online connection, which of course wasn't available yet, so I messed around with the Mii channel, creating a character close to my likeness.



The end result was a bit too emo looking though. There was also a "Mii Parade" option, but I wasn't sure what that did. One feature I thought was cool though was a message that tells you how much time you put into your games each day.

So in the end, Excitetruck didn't wow me, but using the remote itself was fun, and I hope developers make full use of its potential. On a whim I asked if it was too late to reserve the system, and I was given a yes. It's tempting to nab it on launch, but I think it's best if I put it off until Christmas or shortly after.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I'd like to hear how the Virtual Console works when you got the time. Are there any extras included with each game, or is it pretty much bare bones? Also, I heard that for 16:9 TVs, the game image is stretched and you have to manually fix it yourself.

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Well, they better do something to make the fees more appealing then, because it looks like emulation is already starting on the PS3. No one's going to shell out 5 bucks for Donkey Kong if they can play the same game on another system. Well, assuming you have both systems anyway.

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So when are we getting some system impressions?

Also scotty, props to your sig. Excellent work.

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Nice impressions so far, though I guess there isn't much to say about the Wii that you didn't already read. That said, I do have a few questions.

1. What exactly where the cons reported in the Zelda review? I've avoided reading any of them on account that I'd like to jump into the game blind.

2. How are Gamecube games on the Wii? Any compatibility problems or resolution boosts? Does the wiimote work on the games, or do you need a GC controller?

3. So it's a sensor, not the TV itself, that reads your remote's actions, right? Does it matter where the sensor is located (on top of the TV?), or not really?

4. Is it even possible to be a supporter of both Nintendo and Sony without showing blood-pissing hatred to one of the companies? Anyone else sick of this whole choosing-sides bullshit that's been plaguing the gaming community the past year?

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Thanks. And to add to 2, can you still enable progressive scan when starting up the Gamecube game (by pressing B)?

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This was probably answered already, but are all Wii games displayed on 16:9 on widescreen TV's? What about GC games that didn't have widescreen originally?

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Reggie reveals date for Wii online gaming
Promises more Wii channels, also.
Nintendo of America boss Reggie Fils-Aime has confirmed that Wii gamers will be able to play games online from the second quarter of 2007. Reggie's pledge came in an interview with SpikeTV's Game Head show (which saw the Ninty president indulging in some bowling - of both the real-life and Wii variety), where he also let slip that more Wii channels were in the works.

So far, Japan is the only region with a Wii game [Pokémon Battle Revolution - Ed] that can be played online. However, that's set to change in the coming months, with Fils-Aime promising, "The multiplayer is coming. During the Japanese launch, there is Pokémon Battle Revolution, and that's really the first one. There will be titles that we'll be announcing in first quarter 2007, that'll be multiplayer-enabled. So during second quarter 2007, people will be able to have a multiplayer experience on Wii." In further good news for Wii fans, Fils-Aime revealed that Nintendo was hard at work developing more Wii channels, though revealed nothing about what they would involve.

http://palgn.com.au/article.php?titl...121e9ae08608f6

Way to take half a year implementing a feature that should've been right out of the box, and something the other two systems are already doing.

"Oh well that seems a reasonable time. I'm not interested in online play unless Nintendo does it, because they'll do it perfectly."

actual bullshit spouted by the usual fanboys

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File this under "rumor", but I'm still going to bitch about the horrendous possibility.

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Reliable sources close to Nintendo have told CVG that Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption on Wii, and Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass on DS will not see light of day until Christmas 2007, which could mean anything from October to December.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com...l-rss&skip=yes

It's the goddamn Gamecube and N64 all over again. Now Sony has nothing to worry about; by the time the heavy hitters for Wii come along, there will be at least over 20 PS3 games out. There's already about 5 notable titles in March alone.

The Wii simply should not have this excuse; if it's less graphic-heavy than its competitors and easier to develop, there should be more games available.

Now for some possible Grubuttals

1. This is just a rumor, no truth to it at all.

2. It doesn't matter, because Nintendo games get the best polish ever. When they do come out they will be absolutely perfect.

3. This is good, because then I can play Twilight Princess 50 more times! Awesome, Nintendo!

4. There will still be hundreds of VC games. I can spend hundreds of dollars on classic games I could download off a 5 year old cellphone for free! Support Nintendo, give them the monies!

5. Sony is still doomed, because Nintendo could release just one game a year and they'll still be the greatest company on earth. Oh God, Nintendo, you get me so hard.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Alright, this Wii shortage is very annoying. I've spent every day for the last two weeks calling two Circuit City's and four Gamestops, and they never have any in stock, nor do they have any idea when they'll receive any more.

Has there been any indication at all when Nintendo is going to step up the production? One Gamestop employee told me that he heard the possibility of Wiis becoming more available within the next two weeks, but that's been it.

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I wonder if the production boost will be enough so that I wouldn't have to pester CC every day in the morning, and just casually walk in and grab a system. The situation with me is that I'm trying to make use of the "$40 off a $200 purchase" coupon before it ends (Jan 31). That's almost like getting Zelda for free.

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You do know that most store employees have been instructed to lie about Wii availability over the phone, right? The only time you can be sure you're getting a straight answer will be if you're in the store, and they usually sell out within a few minutes. I've seen one EB with Wiis and that was the case.

And you do know what a pain it would be to drive to those Gamestops every day to check if they actually have the system. I'm not dismissing the policy you mentioned, but a few times the employees over the phone have been pretty honest, saying things like "we got a few yesterday but they sold out in 30 minutes". I have a little more trust with the GS workers than the people in Circuit City (not once has someone from the game department picked up the phone; I've had to call other departments to check. Of course I just learned there's an Operater option, but I'm not sure their word is completely reliable either).

I have a $20 gift card from Best Buy as an xmas gift. I was saving it for Zelda, but I don't mind using it for a Wii either. I guess I can try calling them tommorow, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Wow, I take back what I said. Nintendo has no problem reporting the ulgy side of news (suicide bombers, sniper shots, etc).

I also found the following piece of news so amusing, given the context of it all, that I just had to take a shot of it.

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I mean, that's just bizzare. :/

Oh and of course there's a 5 page story on the success of the Wii, but I won't hold that against them. Cool feature, overall. I'll be using it often.

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