[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

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So anyway, now I'm tempted to keep the unit I froze my ass off for, but I'm also thinking of just flat out returning it for a refund.

It all depends on whether you feel that Resistence is good enough to tide you over until more notable games come out. As I mentioned before, since this launch emulates the PS2's almost exactly, I'm certain that we'll start seeing the PS3 flex its muscle during Spring (around March), then become stellar around Summer, and then we get our first real PS3 game in the form of MGS4.

Contrary to what Sony says, next-gen does not start when they say so. It starts when Kojima says so.

Also, Blast Factor is good fun based on the short demo, and I have intentions to buy the full game if I don't end up making a huge profit on Ebay (anything less than $1k isn't worth selling).

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I wouldn't mind adding people to my Friends List, but like you said there's so few of us right now.

PSN Name: SOLDIER. I really wanted to pick something different for each game, but it seems the name you choose for the PS Store carries over to whatever game you play.

A question about the upscaling/downscaling fiasco going on. Keep in mind I have a CRT that does 1080i but not 720p.

For Blu Ray movies, do I get them at 1080i?

For NBA '07, I noticed it was a bit more hi-res than previous games. Does the 1080p signal mean that I go as far as 1080i instead of backwards like Resistence?

Can the downscaling problem really be addressed by a firmware update, or is it something hardware related and thus impossible to fix? Would the simplest solution be to output all future games with 1080i in addition to the other resolution options?

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I made Cobalt here my little guinea pig and tried out the Friend feature. I sent him a message, in which I then got an indicator that he had both received and sent his own message while I was playing Resistence. After adding each other, I then sent him a message to join up in the game (a real pain with the small text and lack of keyboard). We had some good fun in Deathmatch, including one bit where we both meleed' each other to death.

The highlight, though, was that I found this one spot high up in one of the towers, and started picking off people one after another, earning a multiple kills medal. I shot up all the way to Third place with that method. Also, it's funny how a lot of people don't know that you have to shake the controller to put yourself out when on fire. Those are the kind of controller gimmicks I want to see later on.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Yeah, I prefer mixed matches of human against Chimera (makes it easier to discern who's your ally and your enemy). The Chimera have a big advantage though with that rage ability; you could mow down a whole squad of humans if you're quick enough.

Anyone know what people are using for voice chat in the game? Since it seems to support all kinds of unofficial headsets, I wonder which one is the best to use.

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Can you link to the headset you use? If it's cheap and wireless I might grab it or something similar.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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It's not, not by a mile and a half.

The last few launchs for ANYTHING has had at least one game when the system came out that convinced me to keep it, but Resistance is so ordinary that I coudln't care less even if I tried.

Well, as I mentioned before, I don't play many FPS games, and I certainly haven't tried out Gears of War or Halo. I find Resistence perfectly acceptable for a launch game, but I can understand if FPS players might not find much new to it. That said, it's also a bit premature to judge a system's future purely by its launch lineup. Did the PS2 even have any notable launch games?

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Well the next few months are ports of excellent games (FEAR, Half Life 2, Ninja Gaiden, Oblivion). This might not satisfy people who played them already, but good news for me; I've never played any. I'm looking forward to all of them.

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They said spring for Ninja Gaiden, Oblivion is in December I think along with FEAR, and I think they said first quarter of 2007 for Half-Life 2. I think I'm most interested in Oblivion at the moment due to its sheer length.

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Yeah, I'm not sure what leveling up does either. I know you can unlock new skins, but not entirely sure what they are or how to unlock them. I saw someone using a black guy but that's about it. :/

Also Katze I outranked you in our last match (4th place baby).

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Damn that's nasty. I was starting to think most of the systems would be working just fine given the lack of complaints. That just makes me appreciate my own console more.

just don't decide to quit on me, okay.

Any updates on upcoming game releases? Will we be getting any of the aforementioned ports this year?

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Gears is third person, not first, but I don't blame you for not knowing that. Mo0 didn't either until he opened the game up.

I did know that, but I made the comparison based on the feel and setting (soldiers shooting up aliens...well, alien in appearance and feel anyway).

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As for the PS2 launch...if you promise not to laugh, I got some good milage out of Smuggler's Run back in the day.

I won't, since in a couple of years we may look back and say "what, you thought Resistence was fun? ROFLMAO!"

Anyway, looks like Linux and some other OS is available to install to the PS3. Downloads and instructions can be found here.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=129437

It sounds simple enough to install, but I'm wondering what I'll get out of doing that right now. Aside from future homebrew emulators, I don't exactly know what Linux can do for my PS3.

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Seems there are already a few bonuses to installing all that OS stuff to PS3. PS1 games can be upscaled to 480p, audio CDs are played in perfect quality, and youtube works much faster too. I'll still probably wait until the next couple of firmware updates, to save me some of the extra work in installing everything.

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Man, I'm going to need a serious crash course on Linux and its respective applications. I've never touched the OS before, but people are already using some cool features with it on the PS3. So far there's an NES emulator, a MAME emulator, Firefox, a faster youtube, PS1 games in 480p, PS2 games in 480p (aspect ratio is incorrect though), and whatever the heck this is.

Tivo on PS3?:

I'd love to get all this working, but it sounds like you have to format your HD on the PS3. I think I'll wait until I get a larger capacity HD for cheap before messing around with this (unless you can format the 20gb one without losing your savedata).

I was speaking idiomatically.

Saw the list earlier today. None of those really interest me aside from Silent Bomber, which was awesome (and I only played the demo). I updated my PSP but I can't get remote play to work. It said in the online manual that I'm supposed to configure the remote play option in my PS3 (under network settings) but it doesn't show up. Is this for 60gb systems only or am I overlooking something?

I have plenty more questions, even though very few of us own the system. Hopefully some of them can get answered.

1. PS3 will only accept Mpeg-4 videos for now, right? Isn't that the format for I-pods? Wouldn't that mean that the videos would be really compressed?

2. What's the best program that'll let you convert videos to mpeg-4?

3. What's the filesize limit in sending attatchments to friends? I tried to send a picture but got a message saying I was over the limit.

4. Will a USB adaptor for standard PC Hard drives work? I've read mixed results on this.

5. What is currently the best and cheapest way to share media on the PS3? Pro Duo Cards (via PSP)? Flash Drives? HD via USB?

6. How many levels is Blast Factor, and how long is that $7.99 price going to last?

And finally, Sony responds to the downscaling fiasco.

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CEA Comments on PS3 Resolution on Older HDTVs

Sony is working on a fix for sets that lack 720p

A number of reports have been circulating on the Internet recently, suggesting that Sony's new PlayStation 3 has encountered problems displaying high-definition visuals on HDTV sets that do not support 720p. Today Sony Computer Entertainment America confirmed the problem to GameDaily BIZ:

"A small number of older High Definition television sets found in the United States only have 1080i inputs for HD signals. Those televisions will currently only play some PS3 titles at 480p resolution. PS3 games render images at either 720p or 1080p for High Definition, and you need 720p input on the TV to play select games that do not support 1080p. This is an issue on the side of the individual television sets, which do not accept 720p input, so when a game outputs an HD signal only at 720p, these select TVs have to display the game at 480p instead."

The SCEA spokesperson went on to assure us that Sony is working on a solution.

At least they're aware of the situation, so hopefully a solution will be available soon (wouldn't the best solution be to include a 1080i option with all games?). Though there's a chance I might be able to upgrade to an LCD that has both 1080i and 720p this Black Friday.

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Yeah, I saw your name on the high scores. I'm currently waiting it out just a little longer until I grow bored with Resistence. Then I can play BF while waiting for the long stretch until May (when the ports start coming). March has Motorstorm, Lair and Heavently Sword (which, according to the Sony Prophet, will "look like Advent Children when finished"; of course I don't believe that, but it'll be a feat if it looks even half as good as the movie).

So the whole remote play thing can only be done with Wi-fi? Is it possible to implement this feature with wireless routers via (yet again) a firmware update?

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well I'm not sure what you mean by share, but since you have the 20gb version and a psp, I think it would be by pluging your psp via USB(but you said you had problem with that...) I don't know if it work with a usb<->usb plug to your PC (I'm not sure if your PC or ps3 can recognize the other)

The PSP works fine with my PS3. I guess a Pro Duo card would be the best means of storage (for both systems). Hopefully they won't all clear out before I set out to the stores on Black Friday.

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I guess it's a good thing I haven't seen Narnia yet. That'll be a definite purchase for me.

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Dumb question for someone still new to HDTVs, but isn't 1080i better than 720p, at least for movies?

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So the PS3 won't recharge your sixaxis controller while it's on standby mode. I learned this myself.

What I didn't know was that you could also use your PC to recharge the controller. Kind of neat.

So did anyone who missed out on the first shipment manage to secure a system on the second? I'm not sure if 100k shipped this week like Sony promised, but there were shipments out (and gone) today.

Sounds like the downscaling problem will be solved by a firmware update, which is a good sign. The question is when it'll be ready (hopefully by the next update around december).

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This'll be the first thing I'm trying out once I get to go online again.

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I can't wait to try it myself. I got the DSL working on my PCs, but it seems I have to add some extra settings to my PS3. I'm using Comcast fast-access DSL (DSL goes through the cable line now). Any idea what I'm supposed to change so I can go online with my PS3?

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Hopefully I'll figure it out within the hour, then we can have ourselves a long-delayed online match.

I was wondering, in what format are the mini-games saved (when you purchase them)? If they're saved in the HD, can they be moved around with the appropriate storage (like a 1gb flash drive)? If so, then wouldn't you theoretically be able to download those games for free if they were hosted on some infamous torrent sites? Or is there a layer of protection to prevent this?

Okay, I'm back online. The bluetooth headset I bought the other day works like a charm too (you don't have to hold a button like with SOCOM, you just chat), although there was one occasion where it seemed to interfere with my controller, causing a slight lag.

So how does this File Server program work? Do I need a Wi-Fi connection like with the PSP's Remote Play? I installed it but so far I'm getting 404 errors.

EDIT: Nevermind, turns out I had to type the address from the File Server unto the PS3. It works, but it seems you can't save anything from the Internet to the PS3's HD, and have to use some other storage media. That pretty much defeats the purpose when you can just transfer files directly with a flash drive and whatnot.

In the meantime, I have a new question; I purchased a wireless keyboard the other day, but it turns out it uses a PS/2 connection (even though the guy told me it was USB, ass). I have a PS/2 to USB adaptor, but I need a USB male-to-male cable to hook it up, which I ordered online. Once I wait for that, the question I have is whether the PS3 will recognize it or not.

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Okay, I see now. First you convert the video with Videora, then you use File Server to download that video to your PS3 (the HD will only save formats it currently supports).

I managed to pull this off, although I do see some compression on the videos. I believe I have to configure the settings (does higher bitrate=less compression?).

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Can anyone tell me which settings to configure for maximum quality?

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Apparently, the PS3's DVD playback is going to get much, much better in the coming update(s).

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* H.264 decoding itself was not very difficult for Cell with moderate optimization and they could play a movie in realtime at the first try unlike very difficult SACD optimization. However, because they began the development without knowing the final Blu-ray standard, they set the goal very high for decoding 2 full HD H.264 streams at 40Mbps simultaneously. Besides the clockspeed of the devkit was lower than the final product which made the development difficult. The current decoder can decode full HD H.264 with 3 SPEs.

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* Currently there are complaints from users about non-existent DVD upscaling in the PS3. As for the interlace-to-progressive before upscaling, the current player has it already. There was a team at the division for broadcast equipments at Sony that does research for improving image quality by using the NVIDIA shader language. They ported it onto RSX. After Cell does noise reduction and other filters, RSX does interlace-to-progressive conversion. Though the current algorithm has bugs for some video sources, SCE says the conversion precision will be upgraded by future updates. Also the noise reduction filter is currently optimized for video sources with relatively many MPEG noises recorded with a video recorder. SCE knows lack of picture details because of it and will provide new default values for noise reduction by checking recording formats and media IDs for DVD discs.

As for upscaling, they are doing the research to develop a high-quality multi-tap upscaling filter that balances the load between Cell and RSX. They also plan to use the non-original luminance information generated in upscaling for HDMI 1.3 deep color.

I don't quite get all the technical talk, but the folks in GAF are quite jazzed about this. Hopefully this will all be available in December's update (which coincides with the delivery of my new LCD), and hopefully the same features will be added for PS1/PS2 upscaling.

I was speaking idiomatically.

GT:HD being cancelled and instead released as a free demo (because in the end, that's what it is; a demo for GT5) is the smartest decision Sony's made this year. Now you can actually appreciate it as a visual showpiece for what lies ahead, instead of that microtransaction crap.

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Did the release date for Oblivion change? Today's Wal-Mart ad had it listed along with NBA '07, but it didn't have an actual date.

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Haha wow. For a minute I thought that was you. Didn't you say you were thinking about auctioning off your PS3 earlier?

Dude, I don't look anywhere near as hideous. I'm leary of sharing my photo online, but if more comments like that appear, I might have to.

The PS1 games are available now in the online store. There's Crash Bandicoot, Tekken 2, Syphon Filter, and a couple of others I didn't bother remembering. No Jumping Flash, no Silent Bomber. Disappointing, and the other games aren't worth my time (even though they're cheap).

Also, I've experienced PS3 in 1080p. Expect a journal entry on the subject soon.

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