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And I'll admit it; the Turks stole the show. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Well I just wondered, since the scene where Tifa's berating Cloud for not living on the present, they zoom in on the ring, as if there was some significance to it.
And Newborn's Seph grew on me. The voice really went well with the subtle yet evil vibe Sephiroth is known for. I admit, he scared me silly in this movie. I didn't envy Cloud.
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I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
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I was speaking idiomatically. |
You can find "On The Way to a Smile" and "Case of Tifa" in this site (along with Aerith's story "The Maiden", written by a different author).
http://xthost.info/ffwebnovel/ EDIT: beat me to it, damn. I strongly recommend you check it out, as it really helps showing the transaction from post-FFVII characters to their AC counterparts. It also helps making the final scene in the movie even more poignant. Spoiler:
I took a look at Disc 2's extras, and here's some brief thoughts. The Before Crisis trailer is pretty damn disappointing. The cool anime footage created just for the commercial is obscured with constant videos of the actual game. The rest of the trailer is just footage from Last Order, making its exclusion even stupider. The Crisis Core trailer is better done, not obscuring any of the anime footage (most likely because they didn't have any actual game footage to show), although plenty of people are going to wonder about this "FFVII anime". The line at the end seems to strongly hint that you won't just be playing Zack, but maybe Cloud, Sephiroth, and Tifa as well. The Dirge of Cerberus trailer is the best of the bunch, showing off plenty of cool footage that almost warrants it as "Advent Children 1.5". Even if the game still plays poorly, it will make little difference; it looks hot as hell. The deleted scenes are basically alternate takes on certain dialogues, although I really wish they kept the one with Spoiler:
The "Distance" extra is very nice, showing you just how serious the guys at Square take the series. I also find it amusing that they refer to FFVII as the pinnacle of the FF series, as it's definetely going to make some jaded fans angry. The interview with Uematsu was a highlight as well; the man has a certain prescence with him that Nomura or nobody else has, speaking with true experience and imagination. Plus it's amusing how he verbely recites the first notes of OWA. You'll also get a chuckle out of Nomura admitting that Cloud is a very weak character emotionally, but how it's also a key in showing his humanity. My favorite part of the interview was their explanation to why Cloud distances himself from Tifa, even after 2 years. It was pretty much what I was thinking as well. Oh, and Nomura also spells out how this movie is basically "a first step toward something bigger." If he can continue to outdo himself, the encore will be something spectacular indeed. Anyway, now that I've given time to let the movie sink in, I've grown to love it even more with time. The fights were the most spectacular I've seen in years, especially the final battle. My most major complaint was the small screentime of the rest of the cast. It was so cool seeing them all again, I really wanted more scenes where they work together. Even Tifa felt underused, and she got a lot of screentime. Remake or sequel, game or movie, I really hope the next iteration will focus more on everyone in total. What does everyone think about Spoiler:
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
That was one of the funniest moments in the film too.
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FELIPE NO |
If you watched the MTV interview about KH2, you'd see that Cook also has an accurate look at Tifa's personality (strong on the outside, fragile and quiet in the inside, is a mother type figure, etc). By comparison, Suvari's interview merely consists of her going on about Aerith's dress (so pink and fluffy and light, I love her wardrobe, etc). Also, Spike TV had a short interview where Cook mentioned how she did a lot of practicing on how she should sound when hitting and being hit.
Say what you will about her performance, but I'm convinced they got the perfect actress for the job. Spoiler:
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Well, if you take a look at the "Distance" feature, they state outright that they weren't concerned with physics, and just wanted to let loose. Techincally everyone's at lvl 99, so it shouldn't be too far-fetched.
Although there were plenty of times where I stood up and said "Oh come on, Cloud can't do THAT." Jam it back in, in the dark. |
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I watched the movie again today, and it's even better the second time. If I had to pick a favorite scene aside from the final battle, it would be Spoiler:
Does anyone have links to: 1. translations of the director's commentary, or just highlights. 2. the lyrics for the new songs. Edit: I found some highlights of the commentary, courtesy of Vileath of ac.net. Some very interesting things found, and maybe some hints of what's to come. My comments are in paranthesis. Spoiler:
There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Nice find on the lyrics, but I was hoping for english translations of "Promised Land" and "Divinity". The OWA lyrics are pretty amusing; it's like Nomura wasn't really trying. But I guess he just wanted to find some lyrics that would sound cool in Latin.
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Now for the one scene that's really been bugging me. Spoiler:
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
One of the few ac.net threads that don't make me cringe; a list of easter eggs found throughout the movie.
http://forums.adventchildren.net/sho...3&page=1&pp=15 (the password is Sephiroth ;/ ) I noticed a few when I was watching, but some of the more deeply hidden ones made me chuckle. Spoiler:
My personal favorite though is Spoiler:
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Here you go, I've been taking quite a few screencaps using PowerDVD lately.
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As for "Loveless", I don't remember the exact story, but it dealt with something about two lovers seperated by war I think, with the male making a promise to come home after the war. Something like that. I was speaking idiomatically. |
Are you going to upload those in a Photobucket journal? If so, send me a link.
This may be another easter egg, or just a coincidence. Spoiler:
On the subject of designs, I'd like to mention that the ones in AC are probably the best Nomura has ever done. Even the anti-Nomura crowd shouldn't have any qualms, especially since he didn't overload anyone with zippers or belts. Tifa definetley gets my vote for the best redesign ever for an RPG character, even if the dress seams do sometimes give the illusion of nipples. There's also an interesting alternate take with her in the deleted scenes. Spoiler:
Oh, and does anyone know if "Water" from the OST is an arrangement of an existing FFVII song? I'm pretty sure I heard it in the original soundtrack, but I can't figure out which song it is (I think it was during the ending). Most amazing jew boots
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That isn't Loveless, it was some fantasy play. Loveless is mentioned but never shown. But hey, maybe we'll finally see something in the next game.
FELIPE NO |
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Also, here's a shot of the beginning. Spoiler:
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
I just watched the Venice footage. It's basically an unfinished version of the movie, no real big changes, aside from the battle at the Forgotten City. The most interesting parts are the musical cues (interesting how they use "Water" during the conversation with Tifa and Marlene in the church), and the funky DNA-style credits. Probably the most interesting feature in Disc 2, aside from Distance, are the AC trailers. It's interesting looking at the first trailer ever made, which served as a teaser for the official unveiling in TGS 2004 2 days afterwards. I can't imagine the surprise and shock that befell those lucky attendants when they first saw Cloud walking down the church, with the cryptic line of "THIS IS NOT FOR PLAYING". They probably didn't see it coming, just like we didn't. I can also see why the rumors about Cloud being the only survivor of the group originated; the first trailer did give off a creepy apocalyptic vibe, especially when Marlene said that many people died on the day of the final battle. Still, common sense should've told them that there was no way Square would kill off all the other characters like that. It's small wonder that Tifa's unveiling in the Jump Fiesta 2004 trailer brought forth the most number of hits. Also interesting is the E3 2005 trailer. I don't recall that particular trailer ever being available for download. Either that or I didn't decide to view it, thinking the movie was due that following September. Yeah, I'm still pretty upset over that. As for the Gamestop bonus disc, while it's upsetting that only Cloud Tifa and Aerith's VA's are interviewed (why no George Newbern!?), it's still pretty neat. Despite Southjag's rant, Cook continues to show just how much she got into the role. The way she mentions how she focused on nailing every line as perfect as possible and hoping that fans will approve of her voice for Tifa was almost adorable. I've never seen any of Cook's movies (and I don't plan to), but I really think she found her calling here. I was happy to hear how couldn't wait to play Tifa's voice again in a future game. You and me both. As for Suvari, while she seemed generally interested in what she was doing, the scenes shown of her at work kind of gave me the impression that out of all the actors, she probably needed the most retakes. As for Burton, the guy is pretty cut. He's a soap opera star after all. Like Cook, he showed much enthusiasm playing the role of Cloud, and he stated how nervous he was playing such a hugely popular character. While personally it looked like Cook was more into it, both actors have shown that they truly care about the roles they were playing. And that's why they're the two best voices out of everyone else, in my opinion. I hope we get to hear Burton's work on a more confident Cloud later on. Is it me, or is Advent:One Winged Angel the best song ever? I've heard it at least ten times and it still hasn't gotten old. I had doubts, but Uematsu has managed to surprass the original arrangement in every way. It is by far the best song in the entire soundtrack, with Divinity II, Tatakau Monotachi and Promised Land as close runner-ups. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Nice FAQ. It lists a lot of interesting points, especially
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This one is the most interesting. Spoiler:
There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Forgot to comment on this:
Here's an interesting read about the potential of AC's sales. http://animenation.net/news/askjohn.php?id=1307 Even though I was mostly thinking about more sales sealing the deal for a remake and other movies by SE, I failed to look at the big picture; an outbreak of serious CG films to replace kiddie embarassments like Hoodwinked and Ice Age 2. There's always been a potential there, but Square has been the only company brave enough to try it in America. Plus, CG movies can do many action scenes that are otherwise impossible to do in live movies (or it wouldn't look nearly as seamless). So I hope AC starts a trend, either way. Most amazing jew boots |
I watched until the end, since I know it's Square's practice to always include a final image or whatnot. Plus, I already knew that this particular movie had something past the credits, I just wasn't sure what. Besides, what FF fan would skip through the traditional FF theme?
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You should keep in mind that the original running time was only 60 minutes. It's not like they had room to insert much dialogue. What other choice did they have but to make sure all the characters got required screentime, AND do something useful? And despite the fact that it's FFVII, Square was still taking a big risk by making this movie, like they did with Spirits Within. The majority of fans want to see their favorite character in action, not sitting around and chatting all day.
Personally speaking, anyone who says AC was just mindless action is wrong. Above anything else, it gave proper closure to one character's emotional conflict that the original game failed to do. If you want more dialogue, wait for the inevitable finale (which, I've decided, should play out like FFVIII and focus more on the characters and their relationships, while the whole "saving the world" deal takes only second priority). I was speaking idiomatically. |
The 20 minute feature was a completely different story. The story with Kadaj and co was 60 minutes.
I think I finally figured out Spoiler:
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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http://www.ff7ac.net/?s=pages/shorts/4
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And people are a bit mistaken when they say that the Cloud in AC is no different than the Cloud from the original game. That isn't really true. In the beginning, Cloud was basically an asshole. He was arrogant and lonesome, but he was distant or guilt-ridden. He becomes this way halfway through the game, after Aerith dies and he finds out about his past. He regains some confidence by the end of the game, but is clearly full of guilt again by AC. I don't think this was forced in order to milk the story, it's just a natural progression of Cloud's character. There was never a moment in the game where Cloud lets go of his past (you can blame the ending for that one). Like I said before, the final story, whenever SE decides to end it, should focus on Cloud clearing away any problems he has left. Finally being able to settle down with Tifa and their "kids" without any regret should be the perfect way to end the series for good. FELIPE NO |
Well yeah, it would've been nice if the story was at least included on the DVD or summarized (especially since it tells you where Denzel came from, and why his prescence is significant). At least "Distance" describes the reason for Cloud's mood in better detail.
Despite some similarities, I still find AC Cloud a much more extreme case than game Cloud at his worst. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
The situation you're describing was a result of Sephiroth's tampering. I don't really count that, as those events were beyond Cloud's control. And he didn't go completely mental on his own, it was the mako poisoning and mind control that did his brain in.
Jam it back in, in the dark. |
A (pretty much) complete translation of the DVD commentary. It's quite amusing, especially Nomura's insistance that the angel statue represents a big meaning, even though his own staff think he's making shit up.
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-ac.net There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Just read it. It sounds nice, but Crisis Core was a given. I hope for a more major announcement (how long is SE's conference). At this point, though, it no longer matters if it's FFVII, FFXIII, or anything from FF. I just want to see what Square can do with the PS3.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
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