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View Poll Results: Do you support the Supreme Court's Descision?
Religious freedom is more important, allow the Sikhs to carry thier kirpans to school 9 18.00%
Personal Security is more important, No weapons in school, period. 41 82.00%
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Canadian Supreme Court Decides to Allow Kirpans in School
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Fjordor
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 02:37 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 03:37 PM #1 of 65
I don't think so. Sikhism is, oddly enough, not an inherently hostile religion. Someone who would create a religion demanding that it's followers carry AR-15s would be creating a religion that is hostile to the spirit of the law, and thus the government would first not recognize that religion as a religion, and second, ban its members from performing acts which are a direct threat to people.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 02:45 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 03:45 PM #2 of 65
Originally Posted by Snowknight
Again, I ask, what happens if another student takes the dagger from Gurbaj; it could be used to seriously injure someone.
I have no reason to believe that the religion itself is to blame for putting students in danger, but I feel that there exists enough potential abuse to disallow the student from having it.
I agree. I am just saying what would happen should someone attempt to create a religion requiring AR-15s to be carried around at all times, as you suggest.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 02:58 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 03:58 PM #3 of 65
However, Sikhism forbids unsheathing the kirpan except for religious duties, which are non-existent at school.
If Gurbaj pulls his kirpan out of it's sheath at school, he is violating his religious principles.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 03:18 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 04:18 PM #4 of 65
Originally Posted by Locke
Forbidden - that's just a word. Like I mentioned before, just because a religion forbids you to kill someone, if you've made the concious descision to kill someone, it doesn't matter what your religion tries to teach you - there's nothing stopping you from using the dagger that's hanging around your shoulder.
Well, one could argue that by violating their principles of their religion, they are thus forfeit the right to perform their religious duties to the extent to which they were allowed. And so, they are denied the right to carry the kirpan as a religious duty in such places as schools.

BTW, I am just arguing for that position. I do not necessarily agree with it.

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Old Mar 5, 2006, 04:09 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 05:09 PM #5 of 65
Originally Posted by Devo
Personally I trust the sihk, what I don't trust are those other little fuckers at school. Let's assume it's Richmond High School (ghetto school by me) in which there are actual metal detectors that keep kids from taking guns in. But one happens to notice there is a Sihk kid with a kirpan on his waist, and he really wants to axe this one motherfucker. So what does he do? Follows the Sihk into an isolated area or the bathroom, steals it from him, and stabs that bitch.

Some of you might find the above to be a stretch, but when you've seen crappy ass schools and met violent ghetto students, this shit happens all the time (stabbings that is).
Ah, but Frappe Snowland is not like that.
They are all peaceful, happy people and such. They are nothing like Americans. They don't even lock their doors. Michael Moore told me so.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 5, 2006, 05:56 PM Local time: Mar 5, 2006, 06:56 PM #6 of 65
Way to poke holes in my satire.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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