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Interpreting Theology
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Fjordor
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Old Mar 22, 2006, 05:41 PM Local time: Mar 22, 2006, 06:41 PM #1 of 66
Originally Posted by daxy
but when I went to an open-air praise I walked into this tent and all these people were doing the same over and over. I personally saw hitler in front of me.
Can you expand on this?
I think I know what you are talking about, and have thoughts on that specific matter, but I want to hear you clarify it first.

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Old Mar 23, 2006, 01:28 AM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 02:28 AM #2 of 66
Originally Posted by Devo
Even the bible itself though was "edited" SMX. Thanks Constantine.
Now we all know that Constantine had called the council to assemble what was to be canonical, and what isnt. But, do you have even the slightest bit of evidence to suggest that he and the other people in the councils "edited," as you say, the scriptures?
We know for certain that the Old Testament is literally unchanged. So we have verification that those documents, especially the prophecies, have been untouched (Dead Sea Scrolls FTW).
As for the new testament documents, there has been many fragments of various parts of the new testament books which predate the first council of Nicea, and thus also attest to the unchanged nature of the new testament, to about 99%.
I do not have sources for the new testament documents found... I am looking for them right now though.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 01:53 AM Local time: Mar 23, 2006, 02:53 AM #3 of 66
Originally Posted by Devo
The fact that he chose certain scriptures and not others pretty much tells us he edited the bible to his liking. Not necessarily editting as in changing scriptures but editting like a director would edit out a piece of a film.
No, that is not editing. He was not the only dude that was involved in selection either.
The whole point was that everyone pretty much believed the same thing, with some variations here and there, even before Constantine came along. Then comes along Arius with a totally different and new way of interpreting what everyone had already accepted as scripture, by incuding various other documents which were not generally accepted as scripture. His views for every piece of scripture they questioned him about differed from what was accepted by the majority. When I say "they" I am referring to the council members, which number in at least the couple hundreds. That is a pretty big majority.

Please stop making such gross overgeneralizations, and actually look into the details of the events. It's like me saying that the only reason why Darwin came up with his theory of evolution because he wanted to attack Christianity.
I would also like to devote more time to this discussion, but it is finals week, and I have an exam tomorrow at 7:30 AM.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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