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PLAY!/Eminence Split Thread
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Old Oct 9, 2006, 08:27 AM #1 of 44
Originally Posted by Mr. Maul
First of all, I've received confirmation that Yura's points about PLAY! illegally using Square Enix FMVs for Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts are all wrong. Rights are owned by companies other than Square Enix for the FMVs used and Jason carefully selected them while using his 'contacts' so that no laws were bypassed. It's as I suspected. For PLAY! to blatantly abuse copyright would be highly unlikely.
No matter how much confirmation you receive, we have hard proof which confirms the illegality of Play!'s actions. What Play! must've done was use the Disney images (owned by the Disney group) instead of the newly designed characters by Tetsuya Nomura. That's the only way I see around this (and would be satisfying to receive some sort of confirmation on. I also heard that Video Games Live also did this -- show only Disney images). So it's not 'false' or 'untrue' by any means whatsoever.


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I never called him horrible. Unprofessional and childish, though? Well, this thread is a testament to that.

I don't care whether he likes me or not. We don't know each other and I have made lots of negative comments towards him, so I'd be shocked if he truly did like me.
Your comments have certainly reflected that he is a so-called 'idiot'. And I don't really see any reason why you'd think that other than the fact that his online professionalism is obviously not to your standard. We know this. It's established. This, however, does not represent him as a person when you do not know him as a person. Your lack of sentiment towards him seems that you are not even willing to get to know him

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When I see 'Harry Simons' under the role of 'Music Transcriptions and Arrangements', I have no faith in the quality of the arrangements. As much as I like Harry, he is not a trained musician and has had minimal composing experience. Heck, he hasn't even done fan arrangements. My brother was also asked to arrange for them. I have no idea why, as, again, he has no experience. Next they'll be asking me... *shudders*
Like I have talked with you before, I have not yet done any arrangements for Eminence. I've only examined musical score sheets and corrected some minor things in smaller arrangements. The fact that I'm not a trained musician means, theoretically, relatively little in the music world. In fact, Sakimoto was largely untrained, yet he created some of the most complex, meaningful and (in a good way) bombastic tunes found in video games. It almost reflects a close-mind in your half. I asked Dave if he could create an arrangement in comparison to the one I was making, with the hopes of either combining the two themes or using one in general. I have logs of this conversation. As for experience, well, I haven't had a lot, however I enjoy playing the piano and creating music. Is that not experience, may I ask?

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I assume Eminence are desperate for giving people to arrange for them for free. When this is the case, I don't really think they should compare themselves favourably to PLAY! in terms of arrangement quality. PLAY! uses competent and experienced orchestrators as well as experienced arrangers like Fabian Del Priore and Yuzo Koshiro, who definitely give a damn. I don't think Mr. Simons quite compares.
True, I don't compare, but then again, I haven't arranged any pieces for Eminence so far, have I? Can't really call that a competition . And no matter how many times I have mentioned it, we do have competent arrangers that have impressed our audience. As Yura has said, we have had our transcriptions and arrangements praised by such composers as Kow Otani and Masashi Hamauzu. But of course, this doesn't say anything, no?

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Note: I'm not bashing Eminence maliciously here. I'm just noting their lack of professionalism and hypocrisy.
What hypocrisy? All of the things I have mentioned (and Yura) is completely true. If you can't accept that, then that's entirely your problem. But please don't go assuming that we are lying and trying to cover it up without knowing the facts. It's safe to say that's a good deal.

I'm starting to think that Meiusta and Mr. Maul are one....

Basically, I'm asking for you not to even judge us without overlooking our management first hand or our entire performances. The hate you have for us right now is rather senseless without those two prerequisites.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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