Why do some people regard nintendo as "kiddy"

OK OK.....

I have to say that while I'm an advocate for Nintendo, I really don't like Pikmin, Animal Crossing, even Mario Kart DS is kinda MEH for me.
Perhaps it's because there's so much hype surrounding these games that I'm actually disappointed when i play them. That and I dont like RTS games, of which Pikmin is derived from.

In regards to Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror on PSP, I've played it.
If there's one thing I absolutely HATE about the PSP, it's the controls.
I stopped playing the game after 5 minutes cause it was just so awkward and uncomfortable. I have to say though, that the presentation of the game was awesome, so full props there.
Everyone may think it's an awesome game, and the reviews for it support that...I'm not criticising the game itself - I'm sure it's awesome. But the controls all but ruin it for me.

Now, I love Katamari.
So naturally, I tried playing Me and My Katamari.
I hated that too. Why?
Cause of the controls.
Using the D-pad and face buttons IN PLACE of the two control sticks on the PS2 was just so bad. How can anyone NOT complain of blistered thumbs after 5 minutes? =/

The DS may not offer the best type of control method for all the regular bunch of game genres we're all used to, but it does offer up something that other systems can't really match. While with PSP, every game on it is just something that can be done on ps2 with absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever to make it stand out - other than GFX ON THE GO.

For Nintendo's kiddy image.....it's an unfortunate stereotype to be stuck with, which IS ironic considering most 'KIDS' would rather play the uber violent games anyway.
Mario Party MAY be fun as Halo in multiplayer, but which one do you think is the 'cooler' one?
I think Mario Party is a huge waste of money, anyway (play a REAL board game, you idiots).

What I'm surprised about, going with JazzFlight's examples here....
MORE people would rather be seen with Katamari than Pikmin ANYWAY.
Both are kiddy games, but it's just that Katamari has rather strange drug-induced gameplay style to it.
Which most likely means its considered more mature.
That it's a good game is irelevant. Both of them are good games, if word of mouth and reviews are anything to go by.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

It's kinda hard NOT to talk about Nintendo's kiddy image WITHOUT defining what each of us think are kiddy games or not.

Originally Posted by Elixer

First of all, even questioning the mentality of whether or not Pikmin is a subtle kids game or not is major lol. Secondly, Madden has violence, and there's always mild violence in almost every game you see. That's usually how games work, people die, and you continue playing until you're capable of passing an area without dying.
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Pikmin's concept is simple, uncomplicated and anyone can do it. Madden has violence, isn't simple for people who haven't a clue of sports, and not for everyone. Gran Turismo is the same, and gets very complicated very easily, especially with the training courses and such. Both games have more depth over Pikmin, and aren't as challenging.

That first bit didn't prove that Pikmin is kiddy at all.
And neither did the third bit.

Madden being more complicated for those who have no clue about the sport is no indication whatsoever that it is for 'teh mature' people.
It just means that the learning curve is slightly higher than most games, and is more for people who DO know the sport.
Harder and more complex makes not a mature game.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Elixer.....

going back to the last page when you said kids don't want a challenge in their games because they'd get too frustrated.

I dont know what the hell stupid kids you know, but all the kids I've seen at the arcades and playing console games are fucking awesome at games, adult-oriented or not.

There are kids that can beat the best of the older players at House of the Dead 4 (get to the final boss with one credit o__o), I'VE been beaten in Virtual On by 7 year olds, and a lot of them play GTA better than some people I know (I crash the car a lot and die, as well).
Counterstrike and WoW are some of the others I see them kick ass in (and swear the shit out of each other too).

My cousin learnt how to play Ouendan faster than I did, and he's only 10.
He also plays Madden, which I have absoluely no idea about.

Kids DEFINTELY CAN play harder games.
They may not have the dexterity or patience like some of us older gamers, but they CAN play them, and over time (also like us), only get better.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.