The Downside of Sex

There's a downside to everything. If you're not a fucking dolt, you can usually work your way around it and completely avoid said downside. Shit, of course it's not a good idea to have unprotected sex... who doesn't know that at this point? And of course there can be some emotional turbulence whenever sex is involved. But that's where not being an idiot comes into play. You're going to go through tough times in life, get over it and enjoy yourself now. If that means you have to stop whining about your asshole boyfriend, or realise sex can be fantastic if you're not a slut, then so be it.


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How is this the downside of sex? It's the downside of becoming emotionally attached and having her hopes dashed. Sex in this instance might have elevated her emotional attachment but I fail to see how it's the fault of sex. People have this notion that sex is like a person they can blame for things, and maybe I'm one of the few who thinks people ought to look to themselves first.

Sex equals emotional attachment. Often times the act of sex brings a "relationship" to the next plateau, which is where it all goes wrong in this case. The girl becomes depressed because she felt used, physically and mentally, both due to the sex itself. So that is the downside of sex because it builds this closeness that many other things are not capable of. It's like how the downside of a cigarette is the cancer and addiction.

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Sex doesn't always equal emotional attachment. Ask anyone who has casual sex.

Notice I said "which is where it all goes wrong in this case." It's quite obvious people are capable of moving on and having sex with different partners every day of the week, but that's not the case in Temari's example. And apparently it happens to quite a few other girls too. I've experienced it first hand.

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Also it's not the fault of sex that people get into relationships just for it and then leave.

No... but it's because of the act that the emotional attachment was formed, and thus something to be shattered. If sex never occurred, chances are the break up wouldn't be quite as devastating. There, for example, probably wouldn't be the feeling of being used, which was the main issue it seems.

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No, it really isn't.

Yes, bad analogy. My point is the addiction is the main problem and the cause of the suffering, much like the boyfriend breaking up with the girl. But the cigarette, or sex, is the root of all of it. But yeah, it's hard coming up with clever arguments when I've been up for close to 24 hours

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... What? Where the hell did you get that from?

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I completely agree, but that doesn't stop it from being a downside of sex. Assuming you're the type of people who does get emotionally attached easily. That's all I'm saying, since otherwise you're right.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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You're just being pedantic at this point.

That doesn't even make sense.

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You feel that all or most bad breakups are a result of sex addiction?

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Christ you're dumb. That or you didn't actually bother to read anything. This is all, once again, in terms of Temari's post. Every fucking breakup has it's own issues and each are devastating for completely different reasons. In the case of Temari, the "relationship" was built and caused by sex. That's where and when the emotional attachment seemed to form. The boyfriend was a dick and decided to get rid of her at this point. It's his fault because he led her on and devastated her. I'm not arguing that at all. But if you're the type to become emotionally involved after sex, and trust me, a lot of girls do, it can be a horrendous downside to sex. Blame or fault != downside.


lol wait, I missed the "addiction" on the end of that sentence. Just erase everything past "Christ you're dumb" from your mind, because that's all that's relevant to your post. Wow.

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You're honestly telling me some women don't become emotionally attached when sex is first had? lol

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No, it's because of intimacy. Sex isn't intimacy. Oftentimes the sheer acceptance that one would be willing to move to the next plateau of intimacy is enough to do the same damage as if it had actually happened.

Yes, and some teen girls mix sex with intimacy.

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You clearly don't have anything except personal experience as a basis for your arguments. Have you ever studied human sexuality beyond a first year course or what your friends tell you? Because I'm willing to bet with the way you generalize and manage to miss pretty much all your targets, that you haven't.

I'm guessing by generalize you mean the part where I'm talking about one case and the part when I mention a small portion of females, namely a group of teens? lol sorry i don't study human sexuality and rather use first-hand experiences. silly me.


oh, and if anyone argues back, make your points short. I'm not going to read anything long.

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Yes, I really am. I'm telling you that the concept of women becoming emotionally attached to sex is a fallacy. It's a cultural belief, and one that holds no real evidence. It's like saying women are more emotional. It isn't true, it's just that they're culturally pressured to express their emotions in a more public fashion. This is why using firsthand experience only doesn't work, mate. You're perpetuating a false stereotype because you've seen it since you were a kid. It doesn't make it true.

I'm more willing to believe what I'm told by girls and experience in my own relationships than someone on a message board. For example: I know a girl for six years who has sex with a guy who then dumps her a week later, causing her to be horrible crushed because she thought having sex with him meant something and practically formed an immediate bond. It's kind of hard to then think that it's all just a false stereotype and women don't actually believe it.

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You aren't talking about one case, you're talking about women. You put "some" infront of it to make your point less ridiculous, but it isn't really changing anything. Are some women emotionally attached after sex? Yes. Are they emotionally attached because of sex? No. Sex is purely physical thing, mate. The emotional attachment is a conscious thing that happens through intimacy. And you know why your first-hand experiences don't hold up? Because you don't understand them. You're seeing the pictures, but you aren't understanding what exists beyond them. You're being too simplistic about it, and it's making you come off like a know-it-all 12 year old.

I actually said "one case" and "a small portion." ie those I've met and known over the years. The one case being from what I've read in this thread.

Anywho, you put too much faith in some people. It would be nice to say "sex is purely physical" and be done with it, but it really isn't. It's actually a lot more, that's (partly) why emphasis is put on the subject. I have no problems separating intimacy and sex, but there's people who honestly can't do that.

But it's cute how you're apparently dissecting my past relationships based on two or three sentences on a message board made by a poster you've probably never even noticed until this thread. I know exactly what happened in my past relationships and why they failed. I know exactly why my current one has succeeded without a single hitch too. As for being an know-it-all 12 year-old, I've clearly said that I'm going on personal experiences. If I really wanted to be a know-it-all I'd search for studies and actually know the ins and outs of the subject like you apparently think you do.

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That would be a great point if I'd mentioned anything other than your approach to the topic of sex and intimacy. I haven't said word one about your relationships, nor do I care to know about them. I'm saying you're uninformed and using only word-of-mouth knowledge. Folk wisdom, as it were. That's it. So it's cute how you think you can read into what I've said.

Yeah, that one I actually read slightly wrong. Just enough to completely alter the meaning. My mistake, bby :c

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The point being that the 12 year old feels he has a grasp of the subject because his friend told him about his older sister once. But if you want to use being uninformed as a defense, you go right ahead and do that. I'm sure it'll strengthen your case by leaps and bounds by stating you haven't bothered doing any research and only have personal opinion. You're embarassing yourself here, mate.

I honestly don't care enough about this debate to learn anything more than what apply to me and my life. I'm not really even arguing against you, just the fact that you think certain things don't happen or people don't think certain ways. In this case, first-hand experience is all I need, since that alone proves you wrong. If I know five people who think one way, and you're saying it's a false stereotype, I can be safe in knowing that that's not completely true. I have personal proof in this case. Research wouldn't do me any good. I know that some of your points are correct, or should be, but I also know having seen and heard otherwise, that's they aren't all quite as correct as you make them out to be.

As for embarrassing myself, oh no This is the internet. I don't really care.

Oh, and my defense is that I'm going on no sleep. Being uninformed is something different.

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All I've been saying is that -some- people get emotionally attached after sex. I thought having said that at least twenty times made that clear. That's about it.

As for the other bit, I guess this: "I'm telling you that the concept of women becoming emotionally attached to sex is a fallacy." made me believe you felt otherwise. That on top of coming after a quote of mine that said "some," and well, you can see where the confusion came from


Also, I'm pretty sure I read that as "emotionally attached after sex is a fallacy" so that probably didn't help. I guess it's a good thing I'm using this sleep thing as a defense lewl

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