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Old May 26, 2007, 04:33 PM Local time: May 26, 2007, 03:33 PM #1 of 111
What the hell does Lucas have against LOTR?

How many of you hated Episode II based on the romance? I mean, I'm with you on the bad dialogue and all but a lot of that shit was necessary. And what if he could write great romantic dialogue? Would that excite you Deni? Would it be like the Titanic all over again? =O

And come on, Clone Wars was fun and all but the little dialogue it did have was crap. It didn't even have most (if any?) of the original voice actors. The ONLY reason it's generally well received around here is that it resembles anime, something the majority of us here love.

I don't know, I guess I can look beyond the many fuckups Lucas has made on these prequels because I just take the entire story as the hero cycle Anakin was created to follow. I mean, Lucas damn near followed Campbell word for word on that cycle, and the man considers Lucas one of his best students. So, yeah, I realize Lucas has gotten a lot older and fucks up a ton, but I know what story and message he's trying to put forth and I appreciate him for that. Even if he's a fuckup.=O

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Old May 27, 2007, 08:13 AM Local time: May 27, 2007, 07:13 AM #2 of 111
Really? I thought the lightsaber fights in III were pretty much the best of the six... With the exception of the awesome exchange Obi Wan and Maul have after Qui Gon gets taken out. I thought the Dooku one at the beginning was awesome, and the other two (Mace vs. Palpatine, Yoda vs. Palpatine) had factors going against them from the start but in the end wrapped up nicely.

The lightsaber exchange that really pissed me off was Anakin vs. Dooku in Ep. II.

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Old May 31, 2007, 11:03 PM Local time: May 31, 2007, 10:03 PM #3 of 111
Your post above was going well Rain. But you remind me of a guy in a fistfight that wants to stop fighting and yells "stop, no more" and then punches the dude in the face as he retreats. Stop being passive aggressive.
Perhaps I'm missing something, here, but I have a question. The prophecy says that Anakin would "bring balance". Do fans believe it that he was the Chosen One, but that he fucked up (as Obi-Wan did)? I always thought that he brought balance by helping Palpatine slaughter every Jedi except Obi-Wan and Yoda (2 Sith, two Jedi). But sometimes, fans say otherwise. I keep thinking maybe it was or maybe it wasn't, until RotJ's storyline. At the end, only Luke remains (not counting his sister). So, how in the world could that be the fulfillment of the prophecy? It would mean the light side was the prevailing power in a supposedly balanced universe.

I just felt the prophecy wasn't explained as well as it could have been, aside from Obi-Wan's speech beside the lava river.
While the "only anakin, palpatine, yoda and obi wan remaining means balance was brought" theory is kinda fun, it's unrealistic to believe Order 66 completely wiped out the Jedi... Even if it did seem they were low on available Jedi to act as generals. I believe the generally accepted explanation is that Anakin fulfilled his part inthe prophecy when he destroyed Palpatine and allowed Luke to live, since, as Yoda asked, Luke was the last hope of someone restarting a Jedi Order (and, hopefully, a more in sync version). "Balance" doesn't necessarily have to mean balance in the sense of Good and Bad being two necessary facts of life. More as in balance means "harmony." And the force can be in harmony when it doesn't have Dark Sith wrecking havok.

Haley Joel Osment would have been sick. Damn. And Qui Gon couldn't show up for the third film because he had broken his leg skiing around the available time. Something like that. Jesus, I'm in no condition t post right now.

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Old May 31, 2007, 11:12 PM Local time: May 31, 2007, 10:12 PM #4 of 111
Yeah, I get my celebrity sporting accidents mixed sometimes. Probably got that one from the Sonny Bono ride. Of course, riding a motorcycle is about as much a sport as his accident was a deer hunt.

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Old May 31, 2007, 11:49 PM Local time: May 31, 2007, 10:49 PM #5 of 111
You can be spouting 100% wisdom right now but it doesn't change the fact that you're egging him on and, potentially, provoking another round. Unless that's what you actually want, of course.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 1, 2007, 02:39 PM Local time: Jun 1, 2007, 01:39 PM #6 of 111
Dark Empire's the only Star Wars comic I own.
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I don't even want to know what that's about.

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Old Jun 1, 2007, 03:12 PM Local time: Jun 1, 2007, 02:12 PM #7 of 111
I wish I had my comic here with me but wasn't it implied early on that Luke did it, like Anakin, so that he could get in a better position to destroy Palpatine's clone? The suspense lies in the audience thinking "shit, he went too far and now he actually is using the Dark side."

I love most of the books, probably because I'm such a blind Star Wars fan. The ones that were sort of trash were the Black Fleet series. Shadows of the Empire was cool though.

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Old Jun 1, 2007, 03:31 PM Local time: Jun 1, 2007, 02:31 PM #8 of 111
Children of the Jedi was it? The whole Callista thing was badly handled. (I guess convos like this might as well be considered on topic here). What I didn't like about the BF series was the pacing and certain elements: Like that broad helping Luke find his mother and just fucking him off in the end. The Black Fleet being used was pretty nice though.

What Yoda says can often be seen as a contradiction.

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Old Jun 2, 2007, 09:33 AM Local time: Jun 2, 2007, 08:33 AM #9 of 111
I hate not having a library nearby. I'm 4 books behind in the Legacy of the Force series. Basically, Episode 3 30 years later again.
Man, I haven't read jackshit since 2001. It was an early book in the Yuuzhan Vong series, when Han met that weird creature friend he saved from some space disaster.

I remember when KJA wrote about Mara Jade and Lando being together, an implication anyway. Then comes Zahn again to restore respect to his character. =O

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Old Jun 2, 2007, 09:55 AM Local time: Jun 2, 2007, 08:55 AM #10 of 111
I remember at the end of one of his books, probably one of the Jedi Search ones, it vaguely mentioned a woman secretly escaping from the Star Destroyer she was in in a losing battle. It seemed to be a loose end KJA was leaving behind to cover in another book but I never really got closure on that. I wonder if that's the Admiral you're talking about.

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Old Jun 2, 2007, 10:45 AM Local time: Jun 2, 2007, 09:45 AM #11 of 111
That was Gantoris, and he died quickly anyway.
That nonhuman thing that acted as the focal point for the accumulated Jedi power to destroy that ancient Sith spirit? I vaguely remember him using it, but Kyp definitely used the lightsaber length enhancement too. Corran Horn did too later on.
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That was mostly due to the amount of clout Tarkin had. He pulled a lot of strings to get her there, and even then she was relegated to the middle of a black hole cluster, out of the way of everything. Why aren't you complaining about Thrawn, since Palpatine had an equal bias against non-humans? Just because Thrawn kicked ass?
Thrawn was also a bad motherfucker and the Emperor recognized him for it... Even if he was also sent out to the far outreaches of the Galaxy; only to come back and see that the Empire was no more. Though, when Palpatine comes back as a clone he does seem bothered by Thrawn having had taken over.
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This loose end is wrapped up (kind of neatly, if I remember?) in Darksaber.
So it was Daala?

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Old Jun 2, 2007, 11:09 AM Local time: Jun 2, 2007, 10:09 AM #12 of 111
Well, these are all EU examples but, at the very least, Thrawn was kept at a very long distance from the core planets. No one really knew about his existence and purpose before the Emperor died. People like Mara Jade and fellow hands are a little harder to explain as far as the hypocrisy goes.

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Old Jun 4, 2007, 04:58 PM Local time: Jun 4, 2007, 03:58 PM #13 of 111
Damn, for a hundred dollars I almost got the comic Zahn wrote (autographed) for the marriage between Luke and Mara.

You guys know a place I can get a comprehensive idea of what's going on in the Star Wars story arc nowadays? Getting all the books I've missed in the last five years into this country would suck massive balls.

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Old Jun 5, 2007, 09:26 AM Local time: Jun 5, 2007, 08:26 AM #14 of 111
Man, that'd be a nice piece for any collection.

Funny, Shadows (the game, not the book) is what initially got me into Star Wars. Before that all I knew about Star Wars was that Luke does some bad ass shit with his green lightsaber on Jabba's skiff and that at some point Vader reveals he is his father. That's pretty much it. Once I played that game it got me curious and I watched the films, then got into the EU with SOTE which was awesome. Funny... Only been a "true" fan for ten years.

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