Creatine

Yeah, I personally don't buy loading. And, like already said, loading isn't so your body gets used to it, it's so that you can build up a surplus, and then you continue taking five grams after the first week or whatever to maintain that surplus. On top of that, after a few months or so, you're usually advised to LOAD AGAIN. Load of bullshit, really, but try to stick to monohydrate and ESPECIALLY stay away from liquid protein. Hell, CellTech aside, try to get it pure instead of premixed with sugary substances, which'll save you money too.

Creatine a crock? This was the fucking miracle supplement in the 90's. Even to this day companies are trying to market their newer products as "the next creatine." After protein powder, this is always the next thing to get recommended for any serious weightlifter/bodybuilder. Just make sure you drink plenty of water and expect to gain at least five pounds. I'm not gonna get into the heavy details, but it basically expands the water retention of your muscle cells, which is most noticeable when you do explosive movements. Don't expect it to do much for your high rep sets and your jogs.

I'll probably start taking it once I hit the six-month mark in the gym. I don't like taking any supplements, except protein, right away so that when I do take them I can immediately tell the difference. If, of course, there is any.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Beta-alanine? Hmm, its use in that way must be new because I've never heard of it. Just how expensive is it? Nowadays I only do high-rep sets for my legs, since they're naturally more endurance based for just about anyone.

Haha, explosiveness. Just the other day I was watching a guy do EXPLOSIVE Triceps pressdowns, you know, the cable movement. I mean 3 reps a second it seemed. I've never tried Olympic lifts (like the snatch), actually, they scare me. I've been using powerlifting moves (mainly deadlifts) to supplement my regular routine, along with some weightlifting stuff like power cleans.

Among the hundrens of problems I see in any gym, commercial or not, is fucking people doing the same shit every day. Same bodypàrts, same exercises, absolutely no change in their routine. Too many people think it takes no thought to weight train and treat it as so, leaving after a month or so after unsatisfied results.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I don't know man, that snatch still looks scary to me. Seems like a lot of stress on the elbows. Check out the world record for it though. 580 FUCKING POUNDS MAN, I'm nearly 100 pounds shy of deadlifting that shit and this Iranian motherfucker is clean and jerking it.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9FwIDwBDcnA

Clean and push presses? I think the technical name for it, if I have you right, is clean and press? I hate the way it looks when you jerk the bar to get under it into the press position, but clean and presses are great. I did those when I was younger. Might have to go back to them soon. For now just the cleaning portion, at which I can handle a lot more weight than if I intended to press it too.

Funny, just today I was considering trying dumbbell power cleans. We're pretty much on the same page here except for my refusal to fuck with Olympic stuff. Funny, the clean and press used to actually be an Olympic Lift.

I know what you mean about gym stereotypes though. Like squats, I see people pile on plates but never go much more than a foot down before they're going back up. I don't squat though, I try to watch out for my lower back. I stick to lunges and leg presses. I know, I'm missing out, but still. As for the bench you'd think more people would learn to arch their backs, squeeze their shoulderblades together, etc. You might be right, their backs are flat... Sometimes they have their FUCKING ASS completely off the bench though.

This beta-alanine sounds really impressive. But really, only time will tell. The most I ever paid for some shit was about 80 dollars a month. Some stuff called MegaTropin. Anyway, I hope it reaches a more decent price soon.

Ever try these n02 whatever things?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Those NO supplements get a ridiculous amount of attention though. Prices for it tend to be out of line though. And yeah, I see what you mean with push presses. Those used to work great for me as a plateau conquering tecnhique and for overall variety.

The most glaring thing I see in this country in particular concerning the bench press is people not lightly touching the bar to their chest before going back up. Just about all of them tend to stop about six inches above the chest area. Sad really because that lowest portion is the one that focuses most on the chest muscles before your shoulders and tris kick in.

I've been going in different directions with my leg workouts. Coincidence that I've been heavily considering the Bulgarian version of lunges and now you mention it. Those overhead squats, what the hell makes them better than a regular squat as far as your legs are concerned? It just looks awkward. Might have to take your word on front squats, though the bar sitting on your clavicles kinda seems odd and hard to balance. What do I know though, never tried it.

After protein and creatine, what supplement would you most recommend? Not counting this alanine shit I can't afford. Glutamine? Ever try ZMA? That shit gave me great results back when I used to take it.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Will, your dilemma with your chest workout (my damned gym doesn't even have a power rack) sounds like mine. It's probably why I don't get as high of gains with chest as I do with the rest of my body. Hell, if you look in my journal you can see the time I got 315 stuck on my chest. Anyhow, I've gotten used to having no spotter over the years and just learning how to tell when I can push out an extra rep or not. Plus, a decent spotter's hard to find. Motherfuckers half the time CANNOT WAIT to start helping you. If that bar isn't going down towards my chest stay the fuck away from me. I'm not here to bench press while you barbell row.

Overhead squats sound good now. I like doing anything I can for core strength. A month ago I saw someone do overhead lunges with 115 on YouTube and I thought he looked like a tool. Guess not.

Man, one time I took ZMA before going to sleep without drinking water with it. About a half hour later I was coughing the shit up half awake. The high dosages of those minerals was so disgusting and it burned my tongue. At least it seemed like it did.

I'll read that link on BCAAs in a bit. A lot of guys in prison sword by the amino acids. Though they said you should chew them instead of just swallowing them and that they were also great metabolism boosters? Eat them on an empty stomach? And most of what I've read over the years is that you need high dosages to notice results. I don't know.

Hmm, good suggestion though and that might be up next on my stack. Right now I'm taking a post workout drink consisting of whey protein, skim milk and honey. Next week I'm gonna start taking relatively large amounts of Vitamin E and C, maybe selenium, after my workouts to aid against the free radicals. Also along those lines will be the large amounts of green tea I'll try to keep drinking all throughout the next year. Then the stuff I'm considering in this thread. We'll see.

Those sound like good, solid movements rat. Sumo deadlifts are basically deadlifts with a wider stance no? Never tried those.

I was speaking idiomatically.

the impressive thing about this thread, which I completely forgot about, is that it serves as a nice example marker for my life and its twists.

Actually, I kind of like the taste of BCAAs. I used to chew them down because some dickhead told me it was easier to absorb that way. What do you think about that?

Didnt even know they make chocolate skim. I wish that was available here. Mixed berries sound so damn delicious right now.

Can you explain a little more about this pushup? It got my attention because I'm starting to get funny feelings in my left shoulder.

Fucking video was whacked out. I hope some shit like that never happens to me.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Ah, thanks for the article buddy. Gonna check it out now. I guess I'll start chewing my multi now, but there's no way I'm doing anything other than swallowing the gel caps with fish oil, among other things.

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