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Old Mar 25, 2006, 01:12 AM #1 of 193
Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp
Oh and if someone nice wants to do the above for me, you can find the image here. Just save it as a Jpeg @ 100% quality.
I just did that, and it was a one-step process.


I even print-screened the preview, and there is no color difference between the image and the table background. And it is well within the new filesize limit.

It isn't hard, you know, but I use Paint Shop Pro, and it does have some different tweaks in saving files. I'm sure these tweaks exist in some form in Photoshop, though.

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Old Mar 25, 2006, 02:08 AM #2 of 193
I think he's just doing it wrong, really.

It is possible, with the correct wrong settings, to have it mess up the dark blue background, for whatever reason.

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Old Mar 25, 2006, 11:47 AM #3 of 193
Obviously the solution to our problems is to go and do what Raspberry Heaven does.

No sig restrictions, whatsoever.

A php random image script, grabbing a LARGE image of an anime character.

[said character] is a good [whatever this character is]

or

[series said character is in] fucking [rocks/blows ass]

And a few animated gifs of hilarity for good measure.

::gffs awesome rating goes up 50000000%::

Example:


Obviously this is the standard we should all follow. Go forth, spawn more people like OneGreatTurtle, Portable, hannable and shut!

And I suppose we could also just replace "anime" with whatever else. But you get the point.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 29, 2006, 06:16 AM #4 of 193
Originally Posted by BlueMikey
"But, see, I made this car. With my own hands. The only problem is that it doesn't go below 50 miles per hour. I hope that's okay, officer. See, you shouldn't get mad at me. Put that ticket book away, I did make the car after all, it was hard! It's not my fault that the car doesn't fit within your laws."
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Old Apr 3, 2006, 10:17 AM #5 of 193
Too bad the automatic signature checker is a terrible piece of shit.

You can have signatures that don't break the rules and it'll still say it breaks them.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Apr 3, 2006, 12:09 PM #6 of 193
OK, I was messing around with it, trying to find it's limitation, and to see if it could be beat.

Let's take a future sig I'll have:
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It will tell me "Your signature image(s) are too large. The maximum dimensions are 550w x 300h in pixels and the maximum filesize is 50.0 KB." despite the fact that both images, totalled together, will not be greater than 50 KB (the viralsound image is hard to determine, but I don't think it ever gets too large.) Nor do they total more than 300 pixels in height.

The example signature does NOT break the rules.

However, once I remove one of the images, it's OK. So, apparently to the checker, even though you have a max of two images, you obviously can't.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Apr 3, 2006, 12:28 PM #7 of 193
"Removed" would be a more adequate term.

I'm sure there's plenty more errors with it that I could come across, if I cared to seek them out.

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 02:35 PM #8 of 193
Originally Posted by Bigblah
Merv: seek them out.
I'm not going to actively seek them out, mostly because I'm not very good at that kind of stuff. I mostly came across that bug by chance, really. I just wanted to see how a sig I did would look in the space (disregarding the fact that I'm following the 75kb rule with my current sig.)

But if I do come across any more bugs by chance, I'll report them, and I do encourage those that are willing, to find the bugs in this system (mostly because I don't really like it.)

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Old Apr 3, 2006, 09:28 PM #9 of 193
Originally Posted by BlueMikey
Part of the problem is that there is at least one easy way to circumvent the checker (by the way that Miles explained to me that it worked) that anyone wanting to use a larger signature could do. This checker, assuming it didn't throw out false negatives, would only keep people who don't want to break the rules from breaking them. People who want to break them still can.
Looking around, I found a blatently obvious way to circumvent it (that was so simple I couldn't believe I didn't think about it,) but we might not be thinking the same thing.

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Old Apr 4, 2006, 01:54 PM #10 of 193
Originally Posted by Kaleb.G
And so those people will receive warnings. I think most of the people who break the rules just do so unintentionally. The sig checker is still useful in that regard.
The problem is, how can people know if they're breaking the rules?

We say a 50kb max, which the checker checks, but we have an uploading system that allows for 75kb. The checker thinks we only allow one image, when the rules clearly define that we can have two.

Our rules, and the "main" enforcer of these rules aren't on the same page. This is something we should worry about more than people breaking these rules.

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Old Apr 4, 2006, 04:41 PM #11 of 193
Originally Posted by Miles
The checker allows 2 images. It is set to allow 2 images. If it doesn't, those 2 images probably break one of the other rules together or something, or the system is buggy. (You should report the bugs in the actual feature thread instead of this one sothey have a better chance of being seen).
In my example, the error it throws says that my images are either larger than 550x300 (which they aren't, they total to 450x216,) or larger than 50kb (they would at most total 25kb, I believe.)

The system is buggy.

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As for the 75kb thing, that's bobo's mistake. When he created chocosig again he must've forgotten about the 50kb limit. I can try to find a way to make it correct if I can find where this little hack is stored.
I think there's a fair amount of desire amongst the user base to up the limit.

This 50kb shit is ridiculous. I don't honestly see where it can make that much of a difference. To 56k people that's what, a half second increase in loading time per signature image? (This is assuming the image was at 75k.)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Apr 4, 2006, 05:00 PM #12 of 193
Originally Posted by Miles
Oh, I know it's just a slight increase and it wouldn't really matter much. We just don't wanna change it since we enjoy watching everyone beg for the increase all the time. Our goal is to make your experience here at gamingforce the worst one possible. =D
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Old Apr 4, 2006, 05:52 PM #13 of 193
Originally Posted by Inhert
and btw Merv Burger I don,t understand how you're sig is now 73kb when you come here and evryone is telling you that the maximum (and TOTAL which mean all images in the sig, just in case Dark nation didn't understand again) is 50kb ...
Someone knows how to right-click!

I'm using a sig that's over 50kb because I'm making a statement that I support the Chocosig guideline of 75kb.

I'll ask you a question, did it take any more time to download than my 50kb version?

Chances are, it didn't.

I was about to change it, but since you decided to just go and point it out, I'm going to keep it for longer, now.

And nobody was tell me to change my signature. In fact, I've said at least once that my signature was following 75kb.

Originally Posted by Duminas
As to why Merv's is 73, I'd guess it is because he's been playing around with it and seeing how (non) functional the checker is, as most of his posts in this thread show.
Actually, I've been using it since Chocosig was put back in. Although, I'm serious when I say that it's retardedly simple to bypass.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 10:53 AM #14 of 193
75kb will more easily allow you to use PNGs as your signature rather than JPGs. PNGs allow alpha transparency, so you don't have to make a background layer that is the same color as the table background. Sometimes JPGs save wrong, so the background color is off, making it noticeable when used.

I'd rather prefer 100kb for PNG signatures with alpha transparency, but I'm not going to push this.

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Old Apr 6, 2006, 05:22 AM #15 of 193
Originally Posted by Inhert
oh and come on, how many more time (or sec should I said) that it take to put a blue background on your sig... all you have to do is when your sig is finish, make a new layer, take the paint bucket tool and voilĂ ! (omg I took 5 more sec to make a sig that look exactly like a .png that take twice filesize!)
Did you even read what I said.

JPGs are prone to sometimes saving wrong, making it off-color to the background.

Using alpha transparent PNGs, you save yourself the trouble. And they're also lossless.

I bet you even use Internet Explorer, huh.

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Old May 30, 2006, 11:11 AM #16 of 193
Originally Posted by Tube
A lot of people care about the signature checker, myself included. It is highly retarded.
Quote for truth.

And for good measure:
Originally Posted by Tube
A lot of people care about the signature checker, myself included. It is highly retarded.


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Old May 30, 2006, 08:37 PM #17 of 193
Originally Posted by Elixir
I'd like to know whether or not the sig limit is still a maximum of 50k, because Skills has a 73kb sig.
It depends on what you follow.

I say it's 75k. Some will say 50k.

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