iPod or Zen?

Personally, I would say go get a Samsung or an iAudio mp3 player as I have found both vastly superior to the iPod. However, if I had to choose between a iPod or a Zen, I'd go with the Zen since it offers more features and is cheaper as well. The only reason I would get an iPod is if I wanted to listen to FLAC, in which case I would go for the iPod with Rockbox (but the iAudio X5 can also be upgraded with Rockbox which is even better).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by R1CH

But those dont go up to 30 gb do they?

Well, I'm not sure about Samsung (I've only listened to their flash players), but iAudio definitely does. In any case, the Creative Zen Vision:M is still a great player and I'm pretty sure you won't regret buying it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by RABicle

How would Apple dominate the mp3 market by so much for being crap?

How can Bose have a reputation for high quality audio when it is almost unaminously agreed among Hi-Fi enthusiets that Bose is one of the worst speaker/headphone manufacturer out there? The answer is advertising, and shinies.

Originally Posted by Mucknuggle

It's twice as thick, or a little bit more. This will cause problems when sticking it into the pockets of my pants.

According to CNET the iPod is 0.4 inches and the Vision:M is 0.7 inches thick (even CNET wouldn't lie about that right?). And the Zen is shorter then the iPod. Unless you have some REALLY small pockets, I doubt you would have problems fitting that in your pocket.

Originally Posted by YoMan

Care to back that up with proof? Seperating player's nowadays based on audio quality i ridiculous. They all perform equally good in that department.

Well, I've personally never listened to an iPod or used iTunes, but according to wikipedia (so it must be right), the iPod has problems with its bass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#Bass_response

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

neothe0ne left out a couple of features that the Zen Vision:M has over the iPod in what was otherwise a great breakdown of the pros and cons between the two players.

First is that the Vision:M has a FM radio, which is nice if you want to hear the news, check the weather, or add a little variety to your music. In addition to that, the Vision:M has voice recording. I've personally never really found this feature useful in my Samsung YP-C1Z, but it's there for those of you that want to take advantage of it. Finally, the Vision:M also seems to allow you to carry around your Outlook stuff so you can take a look at it whenever you want (although this feature won't be of much use to people who don't use outlook, like me).

I would also like to add in some input to the whole soundquality thing. MP3 players are first and foremost PORTABLE media players. No one should expect amazing sound quality out of them, and I highly doubt its possible to tell the difference between a 128 kbps MP3 and lossless on ANY portable media player (and to anyone that says they can tell the difference using stock earbuds, I will bet that they can't back that up with a proper ABX test).

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by neothe0ne

I did mention that.. it's one of the last sentences in the second to last paragraph. It's just that my post was so cluttered you probably missed it

Ah, I see it now. Sorry about that. I was at work so I was reading really fast since I'm technically not supposed to be posting or doing anything else non-work related.

Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

Yeah. I hope nobody took my inane ramblings personally, heh.

Don't worry, I do things almost the same way.

I was speaking idiomatically.