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Global cooling back again?
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Old Mar 1, 2008, 02:04 AM 1 #1 of 54
Don't you know it's no longer 'Global Warming'? But 'Climate Change'? Come on people get with the political correct rhetoric here!
Might as well just take it one step further and call it:
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Weather!
*gasp*



I really like how this whole nonsense about 'climate change' is effectively no different from primitive tribes who thought the gods were angry at them because the weather felt inconsistent with what the prominent generation remembered, except instead of ripping out hearts, the trendy thing to do is rip out catalytic converters.

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Old Mar 24, 2008, 01:41 PM #2 of 54
The temperature isn't too far from the norm, it's the CO2 levels which are way way higher than anything before. And as a rule, CO2 levels tend to correlate with the temperature.
Science more.

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Old Mar 24, 2008, 06:26 PM #3 of 54
Science would be pointing out that Atmospheric CO2 reflects sunlight and heat and in fact is quite capable of causing warming.
Science more.

The scientific method is a logical and methodical application of observation. If one is to properly perform and understand science, one must have a good understanding of, and adherence to, the logic that defines it. Therefore application of logic specifically relevant to the scientific method is, by definition, science.


It should also be noted that in many complex systems, such as human biochemistry, or THE FUCKING EARTH, trends of its components derived in smaller scale observations (i.e. labs) often do not manifest themselves as directly or simply as one is naively apt to assume.

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Old Mar 25, 2008, 05:12 PM #4 of 54
Our ancestors lived through magnetic reversals. Whatever happens isn't going to kill us, assuming that it has any effect other than compasses pointing south.
Our ancestors also didn't have any reliance on devices powered by electrons.

In contrast, modern MRI machines have magnetic fields of greater intensity than the earth, and thus far we haven't seen a spontaneous destruction of the electronics near them. Current models of the process suggest that it won't be an instantaneous shift from one to another; rather it will take hundreds, even thousands, of years. In fact, it is speculated that for a period of time the poles are likely to lie somewhere along the equator.
Alas it would probably be better if the process were instantaneous, since problems in devices that rely on the earth's magnetic poles for various functions (such as GPS) could easily be resolved by one quick firmware update.

I highly doubt communication and power systems will be affected in the least by this.

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Old Apr 1, 2008, 09:45 PM 1 #5 of 54
Gechmir, I'm not going to debate you on the science because I'm not that knowledgeable about it. What I do know is that far more scientists, scientific associations, and scientific studies support global warming than disapprove it.
And therein lies the very heart of this whole global warming bullshit.
Its a massive (but incidental) circle-jerk between scientists who don't know the science but cite vague news reports as gospel, overconfident climatologists who have their moment to shine and feel important(and get funding grants), and the politicians who love to point at the intangible, but convenient to invoke, black box that is the "scientific community" to get votes.

Oh, and little online twats who like to argue that they don't have to understand facts relevant to the point they're making because a lot of other people with degrees also believe it. But they're really not in the circle-jerk. They're peeking in through the window, fapping to the mental image that they're there, getting their hard shaft stroked by the supple hands of Al Gore.

I hear your style of argument in some of the most fucking retarded Christian circles actually. These people don't really understand the facts(or lack thereof) behind their faith, but they sit there and devote themselves to it, because after all, look at those other famous people. They must know something. They have philosophy, history, and theology degrees. I don't really need to understand the facts. That they do, and that they believe is enough for me.

I was speaking idiomatically.


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