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[PS3] Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? PROTIP: THIS IS THE MGS4 THREAD
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Old Apr 11, 2006, 10:36 AM #1 of 1533
Originally Posted by Solid Snake
"The face of war has changed. It moved from a policy of determent to all-out control, and with this, the threat from weapons of mass destruction disappeared. The control of the battlefield also meant the control of history. The face of war has changed. With the control of the battlefield, war became eternal."
- MGS4 E3 Trailer.
They've also been doing motion capture sessions for the E3 trailer as well as hand animating the facial expressions which the voice actors were very impressed by but Kojima said that as time goes on and they use motion capture the animation and expressions will look even better which surprised the actors.

The E3 trailer should look alot different than the TGS trailer visually too since aside from Snake all the textures were a rush job as the TGS footage was originally supposed to be just 10 seconds long.

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Old May 2, 2006, 05:49 PM #2 of 1533
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
http://ps3.qj.net/ listed something about a "running MGS4 demo" on their site, but the link wouldn't work. The site itself is also taking forever just to load. You think it's genuine? I thought it would be a little too early to have E3 videos leaked.

http://ps3.qj.net/Metal-Gear-Solid-4...g/49/aid/32343

Link still doesn't work, as of this writing.
Most likely not. On a related note, this Friday's edition of HideChan Radio will broadcast audio for the first 90 seconds of the E3 trailer.

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Old May 5, 2006, 04:46 AM #3 of 1533
The report is up!
http://www.blog.konami.jp/gs/hideobl...1622.html#more

Keep scrolling down on the page for a translation of the clip.

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Old May 8, 2006, 11:53 AM #4 of 1533
The Japanese version of HideChan has a larger audio segment from the E3 trailer:
http://www.blog.konami.jp/gs/img/hid..._e3special.mp3

Translations thanks to duckroll at NeoGAF:
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Snake: "War has changed. Nations are no longer about ideals, the profits are no longer for the people, mercenaries for the highest bidder, construction of unmanned weapons, an endless cycle of proxy wars. The wars that claim lives have changed into a business with no rational for pain.

War has changed. ID registrated soldiers, possessing ID registrated arms, using ID registrated weapons. Nanomachines within their bodies manages ability growth, as well as promotions. Genome control, information control, emotional control, battlefield control. Everything is managed and regulated.

War has changed. The times have shifted from deterrence to control, and with that the catastrophe of Weapons of Mass Destruction have been evaded. With the control of the battlefield possible, so then is the control of history.

War has changed. With the controlled management of battlefields, war has become an omnipresent thing."
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Colonel: "Spread the fires of war, and attain the utopia that Big Boss preached of."

Liquid: "Free yourself from the bonds of fate. Brother! We are free!"

Snake: "Were the armament of the PMCs overlooked?"

Meryl: "A perfect control management system has been introduced into the PMCs and the military."

Naomi: "Soldiers with nanomachines in their bodies are not allowed to point their guns at their clients."
Originally Posted by Mobius One
Here's Kojima Production's MGS4 area getting prepped for E3. I believe that that's the new official MGS4 logo. It looks similar to the first MGS logo but with upside down 7's for L.
What's more interesting is that if you turn the new logo upside down then the 7s in the logo read as '7-7-7', the 20th anniversary of the Metal Gear saga.

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Old May 8, 2006, 12:15 PM #5 of 1533
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Perhaps an official release date of July 7, 2007?

Also, NeoGAF? I wasn't aware they actually made a new GAF after they stopped working on the old one. That used to be a good site, until they stopped keeping up with current news and the letter's section went to hell.
It's not the site people go there for though but the boards which is why GAF relaunched.

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There's a quick new mp3 clip on the Japanese version of the Hideo Blog in the Hidechan Radio segment.

I'm pretty sure I heard Liquid's Japanese Voice Actor and Meryl's also.
You might want to look 3 posts up.

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Old May 8, 2006, 09:03 PM #6 of 1533
Originally Posted by Sexninja
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check the trailer,apparently he died.
kojima is hypocrite with his words,history has proven.
Of course he's dead, he's officially been so ever since MGS2. Although nothing happens to him in the trailer but rather it's "suggested" and before you jump to conclusions you might want to rewatch the E3 2000 and 2001 trailers before saying "snake died" in the trailer.

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Old May 8, 2006, 10:00 PM #7 of 1533
There's a CAM version over at The Unofficial Site but the trailer at the Sony conference was more of a teaser. The real thing should debut tomorrow at Konami's conference.

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Old May 10, 2006, 07:26 PM #8 of 1533
Originally Posted by Freddy Krueger
Hmm how soon untill a HD ver you think? a HD ver of the shorter one came out the same day it premierd.
From Konami? Never most likely until Famitsu Wave or OPM get it. What you see on Konami's site is probably the best you'll get from them given their history.

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Old May 11, 2006, 11:27 PM #9 of 1533
Originally Posted by Mobius One
Not yet. Supposedly there's a version out, but I'm skeptical because it's easy to confuse for the hi def 3 min trailer.

Wasn't Kojima supposed to show off actual gameplay by playing the game himself? There should be footage of that if it happens (wait, when does E3 end?)
Nope, GameSpot mentioned something about it before E3 but it was never confirmed. There was another Konami conference but Kojima just mentioned the game was still too early in the development stage for any kind of a playable demo.

Some info gathered from the conference and press interviews reveals...
  • The old MGS gameplay is out.
  • Online support and use of the Dual Shock 3's motion sensory abilities.
  • Snake's new suit uses a new camo system, as seen in the trailer, called the OCTOCAM. Taking MGS3's camo index to the next leve, the OCTOCAM allows the suit to only change to reflect the environment it interacts with and blend but also adopts the texture of the object/environment too.
  • While Raiden's role is still vague you can think of him as the new Gray Fox, helping Snake out when he's in a pinch. Raiden will NOT be playable.
  • MGS4 doesn't just take place in one location but multiple regions and countries across the world.

Check out Medicom's MGS4 Solid Snake figure!
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When famed Japanese toymaker Medicom releases the Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Snake figure later this year, they hope to teach us all a very valuable lesson: that you can still look like a total badass...even if you're only 12 inches tall.

Featuring Medicom's RAH 301 technology, Snake's exoskeleton can be posed in a variety of stances while maintaining a realistic body line. Developed by the mad scientists at Medicom, and meticulously tweaked by MGS4 art director Yoji Shinkawa, the MGS4 Snake figure is scheduled to ship this November.


Sideshow Toys will be distributing the figure Stateside so there's no need to pay high import prices like Medicom's MGS3 Real Action Heroes stuff.

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Old May 12, 2006, 05:00 AM #10 of 1533
Originally Posted by Hantei
lol, nice little "fuck you" from HK. Now that we like him, he's not gonna make him playable.

Oh and thanks for the info about the distributor Simo! I saw the fig a few days ago, and was thinking about how much it's gonna cost me to import. Ahh, good to know this fig won't be making a huge hole in my pocket.
No problem.

It'll most likely be $115-125 judging by the Medicome stuff Sideshow currently has for order on their site which is still alot cheaper than going through the likes of Play-Asia or anywhere else which were charging upwards of $195 IIRC for the MGS3 figures.

I'll most likely have to buy 2 though: one for home and one for work to display since some of our kit and technology is on the weapon Snake is holding, specifically the holographic sight.

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Uh, source please? What do you mean "the old gameplay is out"? No more sneaking around is allowed? Who said it takes place in multiple countries? That surely means seperate chapters.
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/new...php?story=9260
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Because of its early state of development, Hideo Kojima was unable to show a playable build of Metal Gear Solid 4. "We can't reveal much of our secrets right now," he said. "We're changing the system completely. The MGS3 system we had was good, but we're not using that. We tore it apart and are creating a new engine from scratch, and are creating whole new gameplay for Metal Gear Solid 4," he said
IGN has some more info here:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/708/708266p1.html

More info thanks to Solid-Neo-Snake from the IGN board:
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As some of you heard there was a conference yesterday that covered MGS4, Gears of War, and Red Steel, I attended and I'll post some of the more interesting things Kojima said.

-Raiden will not be playable in any form.
-They have taken particular care in the way the Metal Gears move to make them feel alive.
-When one of the Metal Gear's busts through the wall its destroyed differently each time due to the new physics based destructable enviroments.
-The Solid Eye system is still planned for the final game.
-You'll be able to fight alongside the Arab soldiers you see in the beginning of the trailer.
-He intends to showoff what they've done with the gameplay at TGS.

Thats pretty much it, there will also be more info on May 12 when the newest issue of Famitsu is released, it has an interview with Kojima.
Mark your calenders: September 22nd, Tokyo Game Show.

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Old May 26, 2006, 10:13 PM #11 of 1533
Originally Posted by Hantei
Regarding the MGS4 Snake fig (though I suppose this is directed more to Simo), does anyone know where I can pre-order it? Or when Sideshow will start taking pre-orders? Cause I wanna be sure I'll be able to make an order before they stop taking pre-orders (I imagine this one going quick).
Your best bet is to keep an eye on Sideshow's site since they'll be the ones distributing it in the US:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/c...ce=mainlogonav

Sideshow even had the prototype on display at the NY Toy Fair a couple of months back too.

Konami are offering new MGS4 wallpapers every week for the next 2 months beginning with Raiden....only they kept the other wallpapers on the server you only had to change the name and size in the URL to access them all before Konami caught on and took them down. Thanks to GAF though, here they all are:








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Old May 27, 2006, 09:58 AM #12 of 1533
Originally Posted by Casaubon
Is there a 1280x1024 version of those wallpapers?
Afraid not. There's 1200x900 and then 1600x1200 but no 1280x1024.

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Old May 31, 2006, 09:28 PM #13 of 1533
Originally Posted by Pietak
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Cheers and thanks for the effort!

Hantei might like to know the brochure features the Medicom RAH Solid Snake figure along with the Sideshow Toys logo at the bottom of the advertisement. Good luck trying to get some info out of Sideshow about any preorder plans or date for the figure since they won't reveal any information on products that haven't been announced yet...

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Old Jun 1, 2006, 04:48 AM #14 of 1533
Look who's back!




Mr Harry Gregson-Williams.

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Old Jun 22, 2006, 02:00 PM #15 of 1533
Originally Posted by Stealth
How can something be 80% confirmed? I read the scans, and I see no reference to The Boss or anything.
I think it was in the OPM scan where Kojima wouldn't say who's grave it was but that it's probably who OPM are thinking of. Nothing about 80% confirmed is mentioned.

That said, yeah you can pretty much tell it's The Boss' grave by comparing the 2 gravestones from MGS3 and the MGS4 E3 2K6 trailer:




Breakdown of new info in PSM:
  • Raiden, for all intents and purposes, is pretty much a cyborg. Looks like The Patriots didn't give him his blood back so he's still got the white artificial blood in his system which is why he looks so pale.
  • The MK II robot and Solid Eye are still in the game, you just won't get them until later on. Chronologically the events in the TGS trailer takes place after some of those in the E3 one.
  • The game begins in the Middle East with the U.N sending Snake in.
  • Info on the OCTO-CAM: You must remain completely still and wait a few seconds for it to work. Of course enemies will be able to see Snake's face and hair since the CAM doesn't affect that which is why the Camo Index and face paints are back!
  • Snake can now wear enemy uniforms to blend in with their troops as seen in the E3 trailer.
  • CQC will be back but more advanced than the MGS3 system. Snake will also have quite a few new moves..
  • Not 100% decided but the "!" and "?" might be returning for MGS4.


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Old Jun 22, 2006, 06:01 PM #16 of 1533
Originally Posted by Hantei
Ooo, great capture Simo! But I wonder why Snake would be visting the Boss's grave. I mean, it's not like he actually met her.
Well she's pretty much the catalyst for the entire MGS saga. With Snake at her grave it probably means he's discovered the information on her and possibly Big Boss.

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And Raiden without his natural blood, completely forgot about that too. I wonder if Naomi is the one who supplied the technology to Raiden then. Well, we see another possible motive for Raiden, besides Olga's child, he's probably after his blood too.
Well the technology for Raiden's suit is the same tech that Olga's cyborg suit was made out of. Chances are Otacon or Meryl, since she's the leader of FOX-HOUND now, stole the technology from The Patriots for Raiden either to keep him alive because of the artificial blood or he volunteered..

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BTW, didn't Kojima mention a while back that there will be weapon customizations for MGS4? If so, I can't wait to see how that's dealt with. It'll be sweet to use a grenade launcher with the M4/M16.
There will be. Kojima confirms as much in the interview and even talks about the possibility of the whole Cure System possibly coming back because right now the team is in a heated discussion over whether it should return or not.

BTW if you guys are still after the HD trailer then try and find a hook up for IGN Insider's version. It's 1GB in filesize but it's the best HD version available online.

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Old Aug 11, 2006, 04:38 PM #17 of 1533
It's coming...

http://www.sideshowtoy.com/behindtheshow/?page_id=1709

Just as I said.

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Old Aug 20, 2006, 01:14 PM #18 of 1533
Just a heads up but the Liezpig Games Convention kicks off this week and according to EGM and Eurogamer Konami will reveal some new footage for MGS4.

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Old Aug 21, 2006, 06:08 PM #19 of 1533
Originally Posted by SOLDIER
What day this week?

Or for a better question, what day this week will the footage or footage details be shown online?
Konami's conference isn't even until Wednesday and there's no guarantee they'll even throw it up online but if they do then I'd take a wild guess and say Sunday but it'll most likely end up online before that, be it a poor quality CAM version.

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Old Aug 22, 2006, 06:30 PM #20 of 1533
C&VG aren't entirely reliable but according to them the new MGS4 trailer will debut tomorrow at Konami's conference and feature the first look of actual gameplay:
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Metal Gear Solid 4 trailer debuts at Leipzig

Tuesday 22-Aug-2006 9:53 AM Hideo Kojima's PS3 opus gets fresh movie love at this year's Leipzig Games Convention - with first in-game footage!

Metal Gear Solid 4 is a key title for the PlayStation 3's launch period and one of the first games guaranteed to give Sony's next-gen console some must have appeal.

Well as you'll know from E3, where we managed to catch a word with legendary creator Hideo Kojima on the next and possibly final incarnation of Solid Snake's adventures (though we hope Kojima will at least keep the door ajar for future offerings), MGS4 already has us more excited than a bag of puppies.

Well, more should be known at Leipzig tomorrow about this 'Most Wanted' of all PS3 titles with a brand new movie debuting, which should give further clues to the all-consuming beast which is MGS4. From what we hear on the wind it's going to be an absolute corker too, with attendees (including us) treated to the first in-game action from the title, which will feature actual PS3 gameplay visuals, as well as the usual carefully crafted and absorbing cut-scenes which are such a feature of the series.

We hope it won't be too long before Konami unleashes the trailer on an entirely suspecting world too, but if not, we'll be there to bring you footage direct from the show floor with our usual wobbly cam antics. Are we excited? Most definitely!


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Old Aug 23, 2006, 07:46 AM #21 of 1533
New trailer is up:
http://gamevideos.com/video/id/5233

3 minutes of new footage showing 2 forces fighting each other before the one sends in GEKKO's and wipes out the enemy. No gameplay though but the the impressive thing about the footage is the smooth stable framerate even with everything happening on screen.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 07:21 PM #22 of 1533
Gameplay shots!





Credit to the fine folks at GAF.

There will also be a 40 minute presentation at TGS too.

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 10:12 PM #23 of 1533
The official feed is now up on Konami's site:
http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/tgs_2006/

Aside from all the gameplay goodness the trailer also confirms Harry Gregson-Williams is back for the soundtrack.

Can I get a big "WTF?" for the end of the trailer too. I'd assume that was to show fans what a younger Snake would like on the PS3 hardware...

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Old Sep 23, 2006, 08:28 PM #24 of 1533
Originally Posted by Solis
Err, are you even looking at the other images on the IGN page? The in-game graphics do look like they've taken a substantial hit compared to what was shown before. Do you really think that this or this matches up to what was shown at last year's TGS?
Ummm yes? Actually the environments look alot better than those showcased last year and they should given they were low resolution placeholders with some textures even being brought over from MGS3 which is why the original TGS '05 trailer was only going to be 1 minute long.

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Old Oct 7, 2006, 09:26 PM #25 of 1533
Originally Posted by Slayer X
I'll be interested to see the reason that they give as to where Meryl was during the whole MGS2 dilema.
Well she was apart of Philanthropy along with Mei Ling so she could of been off somewhere else on the globe helping to stop or gather intel about other Metal Gears during those events. Also with Snake's wanted and "terrorist" status during the 2 year gap in MGS2 it's also feasible that during that time Philanthropy was disbanded and it's member went underground which is why only Snake and Otacon are together during the Big Shell.

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