[PS3] Metal Gear Online v2

Platform: Playstation 3
Release: June 12th 2008
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What is MGO?
Metal Gear Online is the online multliplayer component of MGS4 that carries over the same backdrop and control system of the single player game to original online maps and game modes, with future downloadable expansion packs adding additional maps, characters, and other features after the game's release. Among the new components this time around are battles featuring up to 16 players, and the SOP System.

MGO is included with MGS4 as a "Starter Pack" which is a starter in name only since you'll be able to get the full MGO gameplay experience from this pack alone that will also feature 5 playable maps.

SOP System & Gameplay Elements

The SOP System allows you to visually share information among your squad by "linking-up" with your teammates. Information like your teammates' positions, status, and even who they're engaging with will all be provided to you in real-time. It also works through walls, letting you identify individuals by their digital silhouette.



MGO also has some RPG-elements to it too similiar to other shooters given you'll be able to choose from a variety skills to utilise and level up to improve these skills and learn more like CQC, aiming, hacking etc. An example with Hacking is that with experiences you'll be able to "hack" the other teams' SOP and gather all their information and location to ultimately disable them. You can also customise your character's physical appearance along with his gear and items.

Aside from the usual game modes like Team Deathmatch or Capture The Flag there will also be some new ones too such as the confirmed "Snake Vs Everyone" mode where one player assumes the role of Snake and then 2 teams get tasked in hunting him down. The more times a team finds and elminates Snake makes them the victor.
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MGO Premiere Beta
A beta for MGO kicks off soon in North America and Europe. To get into the beta in NA you need to preorder MGS4 at either EBgames/GameStop or a recognised retailer like Best Buy where you'll receive the Metal Gear Saga Vol. 2 DVD. The DVD itself is unimportant but inside the case is a slip of paper that contains a unique code to get into the beta. You can also obtain the Saga DVD by purchasing it from Best Buy's website for just $5.00:
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots DVD Offer - PlayStation 3

The beta will be available for download from the relaunched Playstation Store on April 17th with service to commence on April 21st giving a 4 day window for everyone to download the beta. Service runs for 2 weeks from April 21st to May 5th with some skills available and 2 maps to play with:

Gronznyj Grad


Blood Bath


EUROPE FOLKS!
No preorder or purchase is necessary to get into the beta. All you'll need to do is just download the beta from the PS Store on April 17th and you'll be all set!!!



BREAK OUT!
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So with the MGO beta looming I figured I'd try giving a thread a try since the last thread for MGO on PS2 turned out pretty well so hopefully this one turns out just as well or fail. So basically use this thread for the usual like to discuss the beta, stats, ranking and hooking up with fellow GFFers for matches or clans.

I know we've got a PSN ID thread stickied but if anyone is taking part in the beta or the final version then you can feel free to throw your ID in here and I'll add it to the OP as it'll be easier to let others know if you're playing MGO and to add. My ID is DGSimo and I've got some GFFers on my list so have at it.

GFF User - MGO ID
eprox1 - bluebomber
Gechmir - stromwelle
Greeder - greederkun
Hantei - Aux
Inhert - Inhert
Miles - kilometers
Shenlon - Anizeke
Simo - DGSimo
SouthJag - southjag
Strife - metalgearstrife

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by eprox1

PSN ID = eprox1

Just picked my beta code up. I am a huge Metal Gear fan, but never got to play MGS3: Subsistenancetesis, so the 'newer' 3rd person style might be a bit different for me.

Quick question - I remember hearing Kojima saying in that 15 minute gameplay premiere video that you can go through the entire game in any of the different view options (1st person, over the shoulder, top view, etc.), but wouldn't you be incredibly limited to some of the moves in, say, 1st person view? I ask because my roommate really enjoys CoD4, and I don't think he would like this game unless he could be just as maneuverable as the other players, who may be using the classic view...

You can play through the game with First Person view on but some abilities you won't be able to do because of the restriction of the view. Given the third person view you could always have your friend try out SOCOM but then since I missed out on the MGS3 online, Socom might not be the best of examples.

I know some of this was posted in the other thread but the PS blog updated with a complete rundown of the beta including available maps, weapons and modes:
PlayStation.Blog » ALERT! “Metal Gear Mondays” Begin NOW on the PlayStation.Blog with Metal Gear Online Beta Details!

Can't wait! Plus we get to sample some form of MGS4, given the reworked controls, 2 months before the game hits!

How ya doing, buddy?

Premiere Beta Available For Download!

Well it looks our PSN IDs aren't necessary anyway given you've got to register for Konami ID when first booting up the beta. Of course you can get a headstart by getting one now:
https://id.konami.net/login.do

The site is kind of screwy at the moment given it buckles under heavy traffic, like right now, but I managed to get a Konami ID earlier which is lone_wolf. So post your Konami game codes and I'll throw 'em up into the OP.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by eprox1

Understatement of the year. I get about half way through the registration process, and then it will state 'The page has been deleted.' and make me start the process all over again. Very annoying.

Its because the site is getting slammed and when it does it throws out all these random errors or just shuts down. Just before to read their instructions for the game ID and password carefully as you can only use lower case for your game ID otherwise it won't register.

I downloaded the beta this morning and just a word of warning its a test of patience though. Getting the actual beta isn't so bad but when you first boot it up you're prompted download a 400MB patch via P2P or http that takes forever. At least I'm all set now and its just a matter of waiting until Monday.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Christ, I'm just glad I got mine sorted when I did. I had no problems with the Konami ID site since I set up my gamer code a couple of days ago and downloading the beta and installing the patch only took an hour which at the time I thought was quite a wait given how fast the actual beta took.

I just hope when it comes to playing the actual thing it won't completely fucktard itself over and fail like the installation process has been for most.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Hantei

BTW, anyone when do the servers actually open on the 21st? Eg. 12am PST or evening release? Heh, if it is 12am, then I'm totally gonna be staying up the whole night to play.

Servers are supposed to open up 0:00am CEST April 21st which is 2+ hours head of GMT. So basically the beta should be available from 6pm EST and 11pm GMT for those in Europe.

I updated the OP with epox and Hantei's Konami IDs since they seem to be the only ones who have managed to get hooked up. Both the update server and Konami ID site seem to be in full working order so now would be the ideal time to get everything sorted and ready should the beta be here tomorrow night.

I mentioned this to Hantei but apparently a small portion of the beta was on show at the NY Comic Con this weekend and theres been a lot of positive impressions. Best bit of info to come out is that the Konami reps at the show have mentioned repeatedly that we may end up getting 3 maps to play with instead of the announced 2!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Hantei

Hey check it out, the game manual is now online. A little reading to kill the time while we all wait.

According to the controls page R3, when aiming (holding L1) is used to switch the angle/side your aiming (much like GRAW). D-pad up/down used for scope magnification in FPV, and left/right for sidestepping in FPV, otherwise its used for chat/preset messages. And the piece I've of info I've been dying to know for the longest time: L2 is used for the sub-weapon fire (eg. Master Key, Grenade Launcher) when aiming. The controls are pretty indepth.

There's also a training mode for the game as well, which I thought is really neat. I might actually jump into that right away instead of a game match.

METAL GEAR ONLINE PREMIERE βONLINE MANUAL - KOJIMA PRODUCTIONS

EDIT:
Also find an interesting piece of info, when checking the Information page of the beta file (in the Game XMB, highlight MGO Beta and press triangle) I noticed it said "Starts 4/16/2008 4:06 PM" and that it was "Created 4/16/2008 6:38 PM". So hey maybe the servers will actually open up early, like 4pm today.

Well at least we know how R2 works for Alt Fire.

Sorry over the confusion with the start time as I didn't know the frickin' thing was region restricted. Hopefully then in just over 2 hours time I'll be able to get into the beta....but given the issues that the Japanese and Euro gamers had I probably won't be able get a good crack at it until tomorrow.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Kilroy

"So... D'you think people'll wanna play this game?"
"Nah... Even if a third of the gamers are getting it for free..."
"So I should just use this old server then?"
"Why, yes!"

Just as well. I haven't been able to download that update or get a Konami ID yet.

All in all I'm speechless. I mean I never had a problem getting the patch or setting up a Konami ID but the clusterfuck with the servers just seems inexcusable to me given they've been preparing and promoting this beta test for months. Probably wasn't the best idea to hand out free codes even after giving out the Saga DVDs but out of all the problems I thought I might face with beta, logging in wasn't one of them.

Of course I fully expect the same shit to happen this weekend. Thankfully we finally get the COD4 map pack this Thursday if all else fails...

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Gechmir

I don't know about Konami IDs or what-not. I guess I need to get started on that stuff? o_o

Yep and fortunately it looks like the ID site has been streamlined to make the process much more easier and painless than before:
https://id.konami.net/

Also for better (or worse) they've removed the beta from the UK PS Store meaning nobody else can download and participate in the beta unless you already grabbed it last weekend, at least in Europe. Probably won't change much but we'll see how things run on Friday....

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Simo --
Thanks for the link, dude.

Hmm. Gamer ID and Konami ID?... My Konami name is "stromwelle". Was gonna use gechmir, but it's one character short =I Haven't use "Stromwelle" since when I played UO... Oi vey.

No problem! You've just got to mainly remember your game ID and password since it'll be that which you use to login for the beta and also the game ID is used to search for users to add to your friends list but the gamer ID won't be displayed ingame.

Speaking of which I've updated the OP with all of Game IDs posted thus far so it'll make it easier to hook up with fellow GFFers. Also according to the online manual in order to make a clan of your own you need to put in at least 5 hours and be of level 2 or higher so if anyone of us reaches that mark then feel free to create a GFF clan, or whatever title that refers GamingForce...we could come up for one for those interested. The benefits of a GFF clan too is that we don't have to be playing together but the clan roster will keep you updated and let you know who is playing and which lobby they are in should you want to join with a fellow GFF member during play.

Originally Posted by Hantei

This is cool, footage of the character creation screen. Heh, we might as well take the time now to visual how we want to design our character, that way we'll waste less time doing come game day. BTW, I'm impressed by how customizable the character's voice is (eg. changing the pitch of the type), didn't expect that. The face models look pretty impressive too, though not too many options there.

Heh, the creation actually turned out to be much more indepth than I was expecting.

Yeah I watched that yesterday and was surprised by how much customisation there was even for the beta. To my knowledge though the full MGO will allow alot more customisation options but still, I couldn't help but think about what I'll be choosing for my character come this weekend.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Beta doesn't kick off until tomorrow night at 11pm GMT for those in the UK. For folks in the US it'll begin 12am PST and 3am EST.

Also there's another software update from 1.01 to 1.02....but don't worry the file is small and only takes 5-10 minutes tops. According to the release its a patch for "how the client connects to the server" so hopefully no fuck ups will occur this weekend.

How ya doing, buddy?

Well I played a few hours yesterday, including some rounds with Hantei, and then some more just now and I'm pretty addicted too. It did take me awhile to get into it given my main online fix for the last 7-8 months has been COD4 so it took some getting used to while everyone else kept kicking my ass.

Controls were an issue at the start too given that its not even standard MGS stuff since they've redone the controls for the single player campaign for MGS4 and then carried everything over to MGO so I struggled for abit. My one and main complaint though is the aiming and hit detection. It seems that even with Auto Aim off trying to hit somebody inside the reticle is bloody hard given most your shots whizz by the guy and the recoil in FPS mode is ridiculous but then again thats probably because I'm too used to COD. Overall though I try and use manual aim when they're off a ways and then switch to Auto Aim for close quarters which has been a winning combination so far.

I guess for any GFFers wanting to hook up we got to get a shit together all over again given you can't find players with either their PSN IDs or Konami Gamer IDs but only with specific names that you gave your character. So mine is DGSimo the same as my PSN to make things easier. If any GFFers want to link up for a game in the next 5 hours then post ahead, that way we can just create a GamingForce specific room and password just for GFFers.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Alright then if all goes well I'll have a GFF lobby in the next 2 hours at 3pm EST then. Folks can drop me a line in MGO for the server info and password and I'll post it here too just for good measure.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Shenlon

I also don't see enough people using the knife, especially since you can't re-equip it with the tap of R2 (what the hell is up with that) but the knife is a very good weapon to catch some easy shots.
And a word of advise for those who are just starting to learn the controls. Don't tap the R1 button when you want to grab. Hold it, so you can really knock them into the ground or disorient them and quickly lock on or aim at them for a quick kill.

Yes you can. Just go to Gameplay Options and you can view the window that allows the R2 quick change be it for a 3 slot cycle or equip/unequip weapon and then select what weapons you can cycle through, be it primary, secondary, support or knife. Likewise you can customise it if you just want to cycle between your rifle or pistol.

I don't really use the knife though but it is overpowered given it can knock you completely out with 1 stun and then its 1 hit kill.

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Other than that, after you get used to the controls you can really enjoy the game but that doesn't mean that the controls are perfect. First person mode kinda sucks. CQC maneuvers are a little off since you can do it right in front a person and completely misses and switching through the weapon kinda suck since you can't go right back to your previously chosen weapon all the time.

CQC is mad fun. Obviously you've got similiar moves from MGS3 but now you've got a little more to play with in MGS4/MGO. Obviously though you just can't go running out on the field trying to CQC anybody but when things get close or you're throwing a last minute bid to survive then CQC is essential. There's nothing more gratifying than grabbing somebody and dragging them off out of sight, dropping them down to roll and choke the bitch out while his teammate goes running by without a clue....and then coming back later to pop on to the skull to finish them off after the nap.

This shit is too addicting though. I try and leave but end up coming back for more and went from level 1 to level 3 in a matter of a couple of hours. Shit, I even managed to get a clan going for Team GFF which Hantei has managed to hook up with so again any fellow GFFers wanting to play just post away your MGO name and we'll roll. I already updated the OP with mine and Hantei's names so hopefully we can this locked down and I won't have to re-edit the names again...

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by eprox1

Wow. I'm trying to log on, but it won't let me? It keeps saying me user or password is invalid. I never clicked on the 'confirmation' link it sent my email when I in intially logged on. it says if i didn't do this within 72 hours then I'm fucked?

please tell me i'm just doing something wrong...god i want to try this beta .

Sorry chief but if you didn't the click the confirmation link within the 72 hours then you didn't register a Konami ID and thats probably what the problem is. You'll have to redo the signup.

Originally Posted by Strife

someone should set up a GFF clan..

I set one up in the meantime under the name of "Team GFF" just to try out the clan options but I'm going to disband it once the 100+hours expire in favor of a different name such as "GamingForce".

I tried getting some sleep last night but ended up getting up and playing until 6am this morning.
I linked up a couple of buddies to piss around in a CQC only lobby and then Capture the KEROTEN, discovered how to do co-op moves link boosting a buddy to a higher level and being able to pick up and flip through the magazines if you come across them....

I just need to train and figure out how you CQC>Disarm an enemy which lets you take their weapon and if a teammate runs dry then you can give them that extra weapon with 1 magazine of ammo.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Hantei

BTW, Simo, can you hear me on my mic? It doesn't seem like it registers my voice when I'm speaking normally (and I got voice chat on), it's like I gotta shout into the damn thing before anything gets sent out. Haha, and I can barely make you out sometimes too, what are you using? I'm using the Bluetooth Jabra that was apart of the Warhawk bundle (which I manage to snag for the price of the download off the PSN).

I could hear you fine and my headset is a Logitech one which I know works well given I'm always on COD4 and people can hear me just fine. It seems like the voice chat in general is screwed given that everybody sounds so quiet and static even when turned up to vol.10 in the options window.

Played on and off all day today and had some intense matches and not so great ones too. The SOP DESTAB is a fucking beast...that is if you can get some support given you've got to plant the thing in the enemies base and main spawn point but the effect is worth it. Also in order to disarm an enemy in CQC you need to have CQC skill mastered to lvl 3.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

OH SHIT! New Mode and Map in EU now, US hopefully tomorrow. Snake Vs Everyone mode and a Middle Eastern map.

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Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by espressivo

it's funny how so few people actually check boxes. they run past me in a box and i come out and either shoot them or cqc them.

has anyone tried the scanning skill? the one where you inject a pill into the enemy after capturing them with cqc. i thought it was supposed to show the outlines of everyone else on that team, but for me it only showed the guy i just injected. and how do you choke someone after grabbing them? i tried holding R1 harder and tapping it and it doesnt seem to work

R1 is pressure sensitive so when you have someone in choke just hold down the button harder and it'll choke them out.

Today was perhaps my best time with beta thus far as everything just "clicked". Headshots didn't seem like an impossible chore and I was topping TDM results with more headshots that overall kills and thus leveled up pretty quickly. My main gripe was the targeting but taking time to learn and work with the reticle and now I'm having a major blast.

One of the key enjoyments of MGO though is tactical team work or basically a team that communicates and works well which is why I had some outstanding games this afternoon when I hooked up with a buddy (who before was kicking my ass in most TDM games and is a vet of MGO1) and I dropped down in the middle of a game on the new middle eastern map where I was pitted against my buddy but I managed to fucking kick some ass including his which led to his sarcastic remark as to whether or not it was me playing since I was doing so good. Bastard.

Speaking of the new map and such I tried out Sneaking mode while playing with MGS: TUS guys and got to play as Snake twice. Freakin' awesome stuff considering you get full use out of the OCTOCAMO which is great as well as the use of the Solid Eye and Threat Ring. Basic premise of Sneaking mode is one top player is automatically assumed the role of Snake while the rest of the players are split up into red and blue teams. Its then up to the 2 teams to defeat each other with the most kills winning, ala TDM, while trying to stop the player as Snake from capturing 3 dogtags from the enemy. So you've basically got these 2 teams going at it as you sneak your way all over the map to quietly take out whoever you can and to get those tags. One event had me just sitting there in a cardboard box waiting for the right time before some hapless dope ran by and sprang out to CQC and nab my second tag.

I think of my favorite moments with the beta came at my own expense when my buddy and I were against each other on TDM on Blood Bath. He got me in a CQC hold in the underground tunnel was choking me out when 2 of my team mates dropped down right in front of him. I thought I was saved but all he simply did was use me as human shield to pop one guy in the head with his pistol and then throw me to the ground as he ran forward to CQC the other guy and shoot him in the head before finishing off my unconcious body...

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I'm surprised that even with GTA4 out that the traffic for the beta has still remained pretty consistent with over 1000+ players on all the servers. Finally got to try the MkII today...man its pretty cool whizzing around and using the stealth camo but its damn hard to zap someone unless they are completely still. One funny incident though had 2 guys shooting it out with one using the Stun Knife to knock the other guy out, he then knelt down to finish the job until I came up behind him as the MkII and zapped his ass out. There wasn't much else I could really do but the guy who got hit with the knife managed to wake up before his attacker and finish him.

Played a few games with Hantei too including a GamingForce specific room and Sneaking mode. I wasn't aware that having the camo index at 99% made you completely invisible to the opposition which is why I waited for Hantei and shot him in the head with the Mosin from the shadows...Of course he got his revenge the next round. The one thing I was trying to do was the hold up but seems like you've got to be pretty close in order to perfom it.

I love Midtown Maelstrom though just because it offers alot of variety in terms of weaving in out of buildings and finding strategic spots to jumping in dumpsters and waiting for an unsuspecting soldier to wander by and then capped in the head. It also looks really good and even at points the framerate jumps to a butter smooth 60fps. That and I also like the little details like the dust accumulating on the camera or screen if you stand still and then dropping when you move.

Overall I love the beta and I can't really think of too much that needs to be addressed other than possibly more skills and customisation options for your character.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Yeah I knew that and overall OCTOCAMO is fun to mess around with. We'll we have to do more of those 1v1 matches since that was a good round so I'll lock it out with a password next time so nobody else can interrupt. All in all though it would be nice if we could get a GFF game at least once before the beta ends.

I'm almost at Asslt.Rifle lvl 3 while also using CQC lvl2 since I really want to get it to lvl 3 so I can disarm folks...

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Originally Posted by eprox1

.The game really is different than what I initially expected it to be – a fast(er) paced 3rd person shooter with stealth elements thrown into the gameplay. Ho-damn was I wrong. I didn’t like the game at all at first, but I kept hearing that you have to “give the game a chance and it will eventually grow on you.” This game is all about tactics – something I’m starting to really appreciate. Too bad 4/5’s of the people on the Beta still treat it as if they were playing CoD4. If you run into the open guns a blazin’, you’re gonna get put down.

I think thats been the problem that most have been facing, thinking more along the lines of it being a fast paced shooter akin to something like COD4 given its the popular shooter now but getting some completely different with MGO. I even struggled at the start because I was so used to COD4 and the new controls for MGO took some getting used to but once I mastered the controls and mechanics along with some awesome encounters and moments I was hooked. All the best games I've had is when playing with my buddies since we always work as a team so tactical is always the name of game, always linked with SOP and always communicate.

I just haven't been on lately given work has been kicking my ass this week with 55hrs leaving no love for MGO. =/

I was speaking idiomatically.