[News] Changing the gaming forums

I think some sort of separation is still needed. Maybe not by platform, but if we have everything in one giant mass, it could be pretty confusing for people who don't readily know about applying filters.

Mostly I think RPGs should still have their own forum, and I think PC/Online games should have their own forum. Other than that, I think it's OK for everything else to be mixed up, assuming everything gets tagged and is easily filterable.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

How about cool little bouncy console icons instead of the ugly text tags?

Because the text tags on SB were quite uglimous.

or non-bouncy ones.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Yeah I'm not really a fan of this setup either (but everyone said I just didn't know better). I don't really see how it's encouraging more or better conversation. I don't feel like it's easier to navigate, since we had those little dropdown menus before that were plenty easy (in fact, i feel like they were easier to use).

And I know they're placeholder, but the icons suck. I'd rather they were just text at this point. I hope that the new icons are smaller -- I don't like having all that garbage over to the left of every thread. It makes the forums feel off-kilter compared to the rest of GFF. It's not balanced. I like balance.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

Except, y'know, wrong.

I asked Lukage about this, and he has told me that in regards to the Bioshock thread he posted in, that he would either not have seen it at all or not seen it for several weeks (depending on it's location), if the gaming boards weren't centralized like this. That's a prime example of what I was talking about before. More users see more threads more often that they wouldn't have before and we get more discussion.

awesome, one guy, one thread.

who seriously doesn't check the general gaming board anyway? haha.

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver

I clicked on a thread involving the 360 by accident and promptly closed the tab...does that count?

That's five to ten seconds wasted. It could have been completely avoided had you just been in the forum of your video-gaming platform of choice!

BUT! Since you opened the thread, you should have read it and replied to it! Tsk tsk, we're trying to encourage conversation here!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Because those of us with only one system will become ENRAGED every time we have to dig through 10 threads to find one we think is remotely interesting.

Yeah.

Basically with absolutely no sorting function, the forums would be a complete clusterfuck. I can live with the way they are now, it's functional enough to be acceptable.

But with no sorting features, I really couldn't enjoy paging through the forums just to see if something strikes my fancy. Maybe we should combine all the community forums into one big clusterfuck and put "general," "community," "politics," "jokeslol," "adult," "food," and "emo" tags on everything. It'd be so streamlined that way.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

It would be Fark and you are retarded and yes I know you're exaggerating.

BUT ACER! It would expose people to threads they might not see otherwise, and encourage conversation! Plus people can see everything all at once so they don't have to change forums! SO EASY!

FELIPE NO

I was told there would be buttons along the top of the forum to filter. Right now there aren't, and I already have to scroll around to find what I want to see. What if there are no threads about topics I'm interested in? Extra clicking, scrolling, searching.

It was never any less convenient to use the drop-down menu to scroll through the forums. This is just a different way of doing things, that has no obvious benefits, and the ones you guys are inventing for me are completely bullshit. Better conversation? More exposure? Riiight. No matter how they come across something, people aren't going to read what they don't want to read. Do you see where I'm coming from? If people weren't seeing threads before, it's because they were either stupid or lazy. I'm not afraid to admit that I'm lazy. I don't like a clunkier interface than is necessary for me to see what I want to see. But my opinion is not the majority, so c'est la vie.

I don't have a huge issue with the way the filters are set up so long as they're more accessible and less ugly. Do I prefer the other way? Yeah. Will I deal? Yeah. But quit telling me that it's for some greater good of the forum. It's just different. Plain and simple. It benefits people that have more video game systems than one because THEY are too lazy to change forums on the old system. But the conversation and exposure arguments are complete and utter garbage, and you all know it.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I'm not frustrated, just calling bullshit when I see it. Does using the word "bullshit" make me seem frustrated? Okay then. Bullpoopy. ~.^

I'm not against change either. But I don't really think things need to be changed when there's nothing wrong with the way they were. That's a general comment by the way, and not only in regard to the gaming forums.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

I've already brought forth one example of my ideas bearing fruit with the Lukage example. Dark Nation is another. I asked him if he would have seen and posted in the thread about the modded 360s being banned from Live in the old system, and he said no.

These may be just a few small examples, but I'm sure there's other ones that I haven't asked either. If you wanna call this bullshit, fine. I figure it's working. Maybe not on the scale I thought it would, but it's still working.

You have yet to provide evidence that disproves my arguments and shows how it's "complete and utter garbage". Other than "I want the old way back so you're full of shit". I know this has little to do with anything, but I'm sick of your shit and you calling me wrong on this. This Cain-like behaviour is embarassing.

I can go around and ask people individually whether or not they had hard times finding threads under the old system, and get plenty of people to corroborate my opinion that it was not hard to find interesting threads with the old format. There's probably a dozen other people in this thread that have said there was nothing wrong with the old way the forums were set up. At the least, we're tied 2-2. Does that mean anything? Not really.

There was nothing hard about finding threads under the old format. People who missed them just weren't paying much attention or they didn't care. If people don't pay attention or don't care, they're not going to post in threads regardless of how they come across them.

If you're going to compare me to Cain, I think I'd like to point out that you're being just as bullheaded as I am in this regard. We have right to our own opinions, and we're not going to see eye-to-eye. At least you got what you wanted, so you are teh winn4r. Congratulations



And thanks Blah, I look forward to the interface being done. I know you're still working on it, and I'm getting used to it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Tails, your posts would actually mean something if I agreed that this was actually helping anything. But there lies the point of contention. Maybe you need to realize that!

And OO, I don't get worn out. I obviously enjoy a little debate. I think people ought not to take me so seriously though -- it's funny how many people are all up in my grill. OMG THERE HE GOES AGAIN!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Roflfox

lol man

just lol

You really are thick aren't you? Tell you what I'm gonna do. Starting tomorrow, all gaming threads will be strictly categorized by Genre, which will then each have individual sub-forums for specific platforms inside said forums. Then we're gonna take it to the next level and have developer subforums inside THOSE forums.

Organization!

Yeah, because that's obviously what I've been supporting the whole time.

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Tails, what happened to you since I left? So hostile.

Someone give Tails a hug. I would except I fear for my life.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Uh, if it's certainly not an unimprovement and it allows us to consolidate forums and allow for better organization than before then what do you call it, Guru? You call that "not helping anything"? I don't even see what you're arguing against anymore, man.

dead horse dead horse dead horse.

that's exactly what i don't agree with.

it's all opinion. why do you keep telling me my opinion is wrong? i like what i like, and i don't agree with the reasons you give me to like the way it is now. but what difference does it make? it's not like what i'm saying here is going to change anything, because i'm the idiot.

but you can all keep trying to drive your points home with me and make jokeslol and make me look dumb if you want. it really doesn't bother me.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

but i don't like that way of doing things.

do you understand me now?

FELIPE NO

Ideally, yes. Did I ever say anywhere that things had to be my way? No.

I'm debating my opinion. Is there anything wrong with that? I didn't think so.

I'm not the one that gets immature and attacks people and throws out what are supposed to be scathing remarks trying to make people look stupid.

*shrug*

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

No, you're misunderstanding me completely. Still. After about 20 posts of me saying the same thing.

My opinion is that there was nothing wrong with the way it was before, therefore, there is nothing to fix. If I don't agree that there is something that needs fixing, then there's nothing that needs "to work."

You are all acting like the forums are going to be a huge failure just because I'm voicing my opinion. Do you have such a problem with one person believing that you're wrong? I've already accepted that all of you think I'm wrong, if you'd read the last 5 or 6 posts I've made in this thread. There's nothing I can do about it, the plans are already in motion. I'm going to see what happens. So far, I have yet to be convinced this does anything aside from change the way people navigate the forums.

I'm just a little bit defensive when people are trying to imply that I'm some big asshole that wants to see the forums fail. Get a grip. If I didn't care, I wouldn't have donated money, I wouldn't even be wasting my breath.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Acer, I know how tags and filters work, and I know they can be formatted to fit my preferred browsing preferences. I just think that it's too much work to change them if I decide sometime that "hey, maybe I want to see what's going on with the PS3." I had a system. I clicked the dropdown menu, select the SonyScape forum, and I was there. I liked the way it was easy before, and I was used to it.

I'll get used to filters too, I imagine. I'd be fine with them, actually, if it didn't require me to run a forum search to change things up. That's extra clicking and extra menus to go through, more than I'd like. But Blah said he's going to put some buttons up at the top or something to make it fast and easy, and that should be cool enough.

Originally Posted by Devoxycontin

And you've voiced it over and over, even after Acer has been patient enough to explain that it's not in its final draft. Can you just let the changes happen and hold your tongue until it's complete?

Maybe if someone didn't come along every so often and throw out some underhanded comment because they're annoyed by my opinion. I'm not even defending my idea anymore, I'm just tired of the other things people are trying to imply about me because we don't see eye to eye.

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Hey where were you guys when I was the cannon fodder?

I knew I wasn't the only one who wasn't drinking the "it's so much better" kool-aid.

Maybe you guys just know better than to waste your time, which I can't really blame you for. See, now people are telling me I'm like Cain. And I shall revel in my infamy...

This thread is pretty much a waste of time, but it's entertaining. Tails and Dev, if you have a problem with me posting here, why are you even reading it? It's kind of hypocritical of you to condemn me for posting here when you're doing nothing but egging on my responses. Just kinda how I see it.

Originally Posted by Rock

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but Sony Scape was never in a dropdown menu before.

You're pretty much wrong. All the forums and subforums were in the dropdown menu.

Whether or not you liked using, or thought the dropdowns were easy to use, is a matter of opinion. You obviously weren't well versed with using them. But your opinion is duly noted. Cheers~

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

I've already explained the Cain reference. The showing up out of nowhere and being pretty demanding thing was what I was refering to, not the him being stubborn thing, and I already told Guru in a PM I retract the statement.

Yeah. Me and Skills are cool now. Much <3 CS~

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

And...the controversies with the tagging starts.

Mark it!

Was so easy to just dump them in the general forum before =P

(Ok ok, low blow. I'm just posting this for fun anyway.)

How ya doing, buddy?

(I'm posting here because a search for my name brought up a bunch of new posts in this thread about me).

Just for the record, stop saying that I want text filters. I think the text filters look worse than the graphical filters.

If it were up to me, there'd be no prefix column on my thread list at all. Too stretchy!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?