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[Rumor] Xbox 360 $100 (total) price cut in August
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Old Jul 21, 2007, 11:33 PM Local time: Jul 21, 2007, 11:33 PM #1 of 116
Haha, way to piss off Sony

This is actually good, because this way, Sony wouldn't even have to think anymore, because even the most retarded management would come to the conclusion that a heavy price cut is the only answer
Sony isn't Microsoft's competition nor are they the motivation here (assuming this rumor is true). It's all about competing with Nintendo at this point.

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 12:16 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 12:16 PM #2 of 116
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Nintendo is on a whole nother planet with the Wii. Anyone who's looking for a PS3/360 experiance is NOT going to buy a Wii, and visa-versa. Their audiences for the most part are very different and therefore not in direct competition. Therefore making the 360 & PS3 in competition for the more hardcore markets. (This applies to only thoes who buys 1 system)
Regardless of what anyone says, the Wii is still a gaming system. And in the gaming business, it's all about market share.

Just because "hardcore gamers" don't see the Wii as serious competition doesn't meant that Microsoft (and Sony) aren't planning on doing things to compete directly with the Wii. To try and deny that is simply idiotic.

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 12:22 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 12:22 PM #3 of 116
Yeah, but you wouldn't exactly say that Fiat is competing with Porsche, would you?
You also wouldn't say that there are only 3 cars in the world that people have to choose from, would you?

Silly analogy.

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 12:44 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 12:44 PM #4 of 116
The Wii will be serious competition when it actually gets some games.
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Just because you don't see the Wii as serious competition doesn't mean that Microsoft and Sony don't. Just because you're not interested in buying a Wii doesn't mean that Microsoft wouldn't like to be in Nintendo's position, being the only console Joe Consumer chooses to buy. That is competition, folks. When people are only picking up one console to meet their gaming needs, Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all want to be that one console.

That's why I don't see this potential price drop as competition with Sony so much as I see it as an effort to get on an equal playing field with Nintendo.

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 01:33 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 01:33 PM #5 of 116
So basically what you're saying is that Microsoft would love to have continuous shortages of their product and a laughable presentation that's geared towards soccer moms and kids. Look, the whole point of this price drop is painfully obvious to anybody who doesn't have blinders over their eyes. Can we just stop trolling the 360 threads already.

I don't understand playing on an equal field with Nintendo. Nintendo isn't even IN THE LEAD. What the fuck.

what we're saying is, we wanna keep up with those guys in second

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If Nintendo could keep up with the demand, they could probably easily sell enough Wiis through this holiday season to take the lead. If you count worldwide sales, by the end of August, Nintendo will have shipped more Wiis worldwide than 360s. Nintendo won't suprass 360s in North America until 2008, when (if?) they ramp up Wii production. But WiiFit pretty much is going to ensure market leadership in North America by the end of 2008, no ifs, ands or buts.

That is competition. No matter how much you say the Wii sucks is going to change that.

The 360 was cool at $400 back when they didn't have competition. But now they do, and they're reacting. This is why competition is good for gamers. And that's why I may consider pickup up a 360 for myself at some point

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 01:46 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 01:46 PM #6 of 116
I don't mind competition, it keeps things from becoming a one sided monopoly-ish, but uh

WiiFit is going to ensure...are you, WHERE ARE THE FUCKING GAMES. If I wanted an exercise machine I'd buy one or join a gym. I don't buy a video game console for that kind of nonsense. What's next, Richard Simmons developing an exclusive workout program for the Wii?

Until Nintendo starts putting out stuff actually worth buying, I say they're going to fall flat on their face. With all the releases heading the 360s way this fall/winter, I say the 360 has more than just a chance to keep- if not extend their influence in the market.
/denial

See, Tails, the problem is that you're not realizing that Nintendo has gone and done something that nobody has done before, in making a console that appeals to more people than just you. Maybe it doesn't suit your tastes, but it's created a new level of competition for the consoles that do. That's all I'm trying to say. And you just keep telling me I'm wrong because you think the Wii sucks. Great argument there =P

I don't think the Wii library is going to be suffering all that much longer, now that publishers have taken notice about how many people own the system. They were all in denial too, initially. Couple that with great first party games like SSBB, Metroid Prime Corruption, Super Mario Galaxy... we'll just have to agree to disagree on that whole "nothing worth owning" bit.

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 01:50 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 01:50 PM #7 of 116
[14:43] <+Puff> mario kart uses the wii fit pad
[14:43] <+Puff> TRY SNAKING WITH YOUR FEET!!!!!!???!!
It'd probably be fun. So people will buy it.

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 01:51 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 01:51 PM #8 of 116
Yeah, about as fun as trying to play Ace Combat with a Dance Dance Revolution pad.

and by fun i mean tragic
But people will buy it.

That's my point.

(also tails sucks).

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Old Jul 22, 2007, 02:00 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 02:00 PM #9 of 116
Ok, we have officially concluded that Tails' opinion on what is cool > sales statistics, market strategy and basic economics.

Competition is good for the gamer. These price cuts are a result of competition. Is there any more way I can plainly say this?

Wait, here comes the retort (lol wii sux who cares if it's creating competition).

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Jul 22, 2007, 02:04 PM Local time: Jul 22, 2007, 02:04 PM #10 of 116
Guru is right, people love gimmicky crap, so the millions who bought a Wii to play Wii Sports at parties will probably also get Wii Fit to pretend they're exercising. The question is, will those people buy more than three or four other games during the Wii's lifetime.
Well, that does remain to be seen. But it's hard to argue that Nintendo has had absolutely nothing to do with the price cuts that we're seeing from Microsoft and Sony.

And all of this is good for the gaming community.

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Probably not. However, I am HIGHLY ANTICIPATING 1-18-08 when Gurus prediction of the Wii TAKING OVER NORTH AMERICA comes true?
All it takes is looking at some projected sales statistics. It's not like I'm pulling this information out of my ass. Why don't you look at some sales figures?

The Wii is a huge phenomenon, and trying to deny that is pretty silly.

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