[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

Oh, I just put that up there because of a particularly nasty rumor going around. One that says that since Japan is getting a price hike, we'll be seeing one too. They forget that Japan's getting the same hike we got ($10).

Best quality Motorstorm gameplay video so far.

More hilarious gifs of Motorstorm:





What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Yeah, that would actually make them a very attractive second console, at least more so than they already are. But we all know that's grossly unfair and could sink Nintendo.

Here's confirmation of Motorstorm having custom soundtracks as well as applying post processing to make it seem like the sound is coming from the speakers around the track.

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Acknowledgement that games these days are dependent on more than just the quality of the gameplay comes in the addition of custom tracks in MotorStorm. Smith says you'll be able to import your own music, which will undergo post-processing on the fly, integrating it more fully into the game.

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That's going to get people REALLY amped for this machine. But won't there be a shortage of demo kiosks and set ups like that? Fear not, for Sony is literally going for the jugular in terms of exposure with the PS3. They've just announced that they're going to spend $30 million to put 5x the number PS2 kiosks in stores. There are 3,000 PS2 kiosks and they're aiming for 15,000. With setups like the above and these in quite a few EBGames and Gamestops, there will be a lot of impressions rolling in.

And like SOLDIER said, they'll start appearing Oct 20th.

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Sept. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Sony Corp. will use five times the number of U.S. demonstration booths to promote the PlayStation 3 as it did for the last console, part of a plan to keep users from defecting to Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox and Nintendo Co.'s Wii.

Sony, the world's largest maker of video-game consoles, will spend $30 million to put the consoles in 15,000 U.S. and Canadian kiosks during the holiday season, said Jack Tretton, co-chief operating officer of Sony Computer Entertainment America. The 2000 introduction of PlayStation 2, which dominated the last generation of game consoles, used 3,000 demo booths.

``Once the consumers get their hands on a PS3 and understand what's under the hood, I think price will not be a factor in the decision-making process,'' Tretton said in an interview.

Microsoft and Kyoto, Japan-based Nintendo combined will sell four times as many consoles as Sony by year-end, partly because of the new PlayStation's $500 starting price and limited supplies, estimates analyst Evan Wilson of Pacific Crest Securities in Portland, Oregon. Executives at Tokyo-based Sony will use the booths to convince gamers to wait.

The PlayStation 3's Cell processor, 40 times more powerful than the predecessor, allows game developers to give characters the ability to ``learn'' from experience and change their response to gamers' strategies, Tretton said.

High-Definition

The PlayStation 3 also contains a Blu-ray high-definition DVD player, giving the console the ability to double as a home- entertainment center, Tretton said.

U.S. depositary receipts of Sony rose 23 cents to $41.06 at 4 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading and are little changed this year. One depositary receipt is equivalent to one ordinary Sony share.

Nintendo shares rose 840 yen to 23,400 on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. They have gained 64 percent this year. Shares of Microsoft rose 25 cents to $27.20 in Nasdaq Stock Market composite trading. They have gained 4 percent this year.

PlayStation 3 isn't expected to dominate sales the way the earlier model. Sony's share of the $20 billion game-console market may drop to 40 percent from 60 percent over the next five years, Wedbush Morgan Securities analyst Michael Pachter said. PlayStation 3 will sell for as much as $600 in the U.S., compared with $300 and $400 for Xbox models and $250 for Wii.

``Consumers aren't sure whether or not they need this amount of technology,'' Wilson said. ``But they're sure $600 seems like a lot of money for a game console.''

Worldwide Forecast

Evans predicts worldwide holiday sales of 4 million units each for Wii and Xbox 360. Sony plans to ship 2 million new consoles in the U.S. and Japan, starting on Nov. 17 in the U.S. In Japan, Sony last week dropped the price of PlayStation 3 models to $430 in response to consumer complaints. Sony has no plans to drop the price in the U.S., Tretton said.

Sony on Sept. 6 delayed the introduction in Europe to March from November because of a shortage of parts for the Blu-ray player.

About half the televisions sold in 2007 will be high- definition sets, a trend that will make the PlayStation 3's high-definition capabilities more attractive, Tretton said.

Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft, the world's largest software maker, said on Sept. 20 that it will sell a high- definition DVD player based on Toshiba Corp.'s rival HD DVD technology for use with the Xbox 360.

Action-Packed

Nintendo, meanwhile, is trying to get children off the couch. The Wii (pronounced ``we'') will offer simpler games, such as tennis and baseball, played with a motion-sensor wireless controller that players can brandish like a sword or swing like a racket, with the movements replicated onscreen. The company's strategy is to appeal to parents who want their children to get more physical activity.

``You don't have to have a consultant to play it,'' said Mike Hickey, an analyst with Janco Partners in Greenwood Village, Colorado. ``The new control system is very innovative and easy to use.''

The real test of PlayStation 3's popularity will come after the holiday season, when the company has worked out the kinks in its production schedule, Tretton said.

``These are the first few steps in a very long marathon,'' he said.

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The dumbest shit I've ever heard in relation to televisions. If anything, it sounds like something someone from TeamXbox would spout.

Blu-Ray or HD-DVD will play on whatever TV (even SDTVs).

Jam it back in, in the dark.

No, again, that's bullshit. The only difference between the Blu-Ray in the PS3 when compared to others is that some things that would normally be taken care of in hardware, will be done in software to save space.

Aside from that, it's just any old Blu-Ray drive.

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Originally Posted by Sepharite

He also mentioned that Blu-ray players are more than $1000; The PS3 is less, hence his assumption, I guess. Lol.

But anywho, thanks for clearing that out. Scared me =/

Again, it's less because it's only a drive and laser. If the rest of the hardware was there, it's surely be far higher. Your teacher or whatever sounds like a shill, or at the very least someone with a very transparent agenda.

Oh, and NP.

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Yes, that's why it's called a Blu-Ray drive. It plays said discs, along with DVDs.

Photo of RR7 @ 1080p running at 60fps. Taken by DCharlie of GAF.





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Originally Posted by avanent

Humorously, I noticed a drastic increase in blu-ray prices just after the PS3s release. Although, the PS3 is still cheaper than the original prices, I found it interesting they further increased the prices to increase the 'good deal'.

You from the future? Stock tips, NOW.

I was speaking idiomatically.

That's strange, the prices should've just stayed the same. Why local stores would be bumping prices up for movies because games were confirmed $60.00 is beyond me.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Oh, damn. Must be late over there, eh? I guess they're bumping the prices up to look like far more premium pieces of equipment. Think about it, you don't want to be asking 750-800 for your player which only plays movies against a unit real close in price that does much more.

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Some more photos and boxart from the Tokyo Game Show:













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RadiOPM pretty much confirming Oblivion for PS3. It's also strongly rumored that it has a new faction, higher res textures and improved HDR and AA.

Oh, and some guy on the IGN forums claims he's got the magazine (OPM) already, which has Oblivion on the cover.

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Wow, after seeing White Knight Story, this looks unbelievably underwhelming. Heck, even DMC4 and Motorstorm look much better than that in shots.

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Bethesda press release announcing Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion for the PS3:

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Bethesda Softworks Announces Oblivion™
for PLAYSTATION®3 and PSP®System

Award-Winning, Best-Selling Role Playing Game Slated As
PLAYSTATION®3 Launch Title in North America and Europe

September 28, 2006 (Rockville, MD) -- Bethesda Softworks® announced today that its blockbuster role-playing game, The Elder Scrolls® IV: Oblivion™ will be a launch title for the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system this November in North America, and next March in Europe when the new console is expected to be released there. In addition, The Elder Scrolls® Travels: Oblivion™ will be released on the PSP®(PlayStation®Portable) system in the Spring 2007 in North America and Europe.

Both the PLAYSTATION 3 and PSP system titles will be published exclusively in North America by Bethesda Softworks, while in Europe, Ubisoft will serve as co-publisher. Complete details on both games are available in Official U.S. PlayStation Magazine's (OPM) exclusive cover story (November issue), which hits newsstands Oct. 10. In its article OPM previews the gameplay, graphics, and new content in Oblivion and concludes: "If any game is worth the price of the PS3, Oblivion is it."

Released in March for Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from Microsoft and Windows, Oblivion has already earned high praises and awards from publications around the world. Official Xbox Magazine (US) gave Oblivion a 9.5 out of 10 and an Editor’s Choice award, calling Oblivion "An Absolute Masterpiece." G4 TV named it the Best Game of 2006, and PC Gamer (UK) ranked Oblivion #1 on its list of the Top 100 PC games of all time.

Metracritic.com lists Oblivion as the highest rated game of all time on Xbox 360. Oblivion has also been nominated for numerous awards in upcoming events, including the Golden Joystick Awards (five nominations) and The British Academy of Film and Television Arts awards (five nominations).

"We're very excited to be able to bring a game like Oblivion out for launch for the PLAYSTATION 3," said Bethesda Softworks president, Vlatko Andonov. “Oblivion's countless awards and commercial success to date make it clear that PLAYSTATION 3 owners are in for a real treat this November."

Oblivion features a powerful combination of free-form gameplay, unprecedented graphics, cutting edge AI, character voices by acting legends Patrick Stewart, Sean Bean, Terrance Stamp, and Lynda Carter, and an award-winning soundtrack. Gamers can choose to unravel Oblivion's epic narrative at their own pace or explore the vast world in search of their own unique challenges.

After the mysterious and untimely death of the Emperor, the throne of Tamriel lies empty. With the Empire ready to crumble, the gates of Oblivion open and demons march upon the land -- laying waste to everything in their path. To turn the tide of darkness, you must find the lost heir to the throne and unravel the sinister plot that threatens to destroy all of Tamriel.

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HOLY SHIT, ZOE3!

Well, *ahem*, that's what the new PSM3 says on the front cover. Needless to say, I'm floored. I thought ZOE2 would be the end of what was one of the best executions of anime-like mech combat.



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And if it's Kojima himself? I think that'll be enough then and there, but this is not too far out there. He's expressed interest in reviving the series, Shinkawa has too and they're both making MGS4 their final MGS to work on.

Maybe they can work on this and have it release with a MGS4 demo, seeing as that game won't be out until early to mid 2008.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Sepharite

Heh, kinda late there, Metal. ZOE3 was confirmed at the end of last year.

http://www.blog.konami.jp/gs/kojipro.../11/000429.php

But um.. YAYYYYYYY

Wait, can we get someone to translate that? How was this not big news?

Edit: Early screenshots of GT:HD, including interior views. Ferrari has been confirmed to be in the game as well as Gran Turismo 5, along with other undisclosed manufacturers. Polyphony Digital suddenly has a very close relationship to the famed car manufacturer, winning praise from one of their lead designers over their reproduction of their cars in-game.





















What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Are they still tanks that don't get dents or scratches or mud or dirt or anything? =/

Manufacturers say hi.

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Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

BAIL OUT

Shop Pedobear in the rearview mirror and we have a winner.

Some new Resistance screens:











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Anyone work at Gamestop/EBGames? The following is a "Gamestop release date list"









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Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Ridiculous excuse. It just makes the game look even more phony.

Again, manufacturers say hi. No one wants to see the product they're trying to sell get utterly trashed, even if all it hurts is the product's image. Even if they do allow it, expect them to ask for ridiculous amounts in order to let this happen.

It's a reality. IIRC, Burnout used clones of popular cars because of this reason. Kazunori hasn't given up on getting massive damage into the games, as it was present and reemphasized at the TGS presentation.

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Originally Posted by NoWittyComment

Correct me if I'm wrong (I really haven't played it much), but don't the cars in Forza Motorsport get damaged?

Slayer X pretty much covered this, Sony doesn't want to pony up the money it'd cost to get them to allow even that little bit of damage.

We already know it can be done on the PS3, just look at Motorstorm and the physics and modeling going on there. We know the team has it as it's goals since the earliest interviews, and strongly pushed at TGS. The automobile industry has long since realized GT's penetration rate and potential for getting exposure for their vehicles.

And, isn't Forza a 1st party game for Microsoft? IE: access to boatloads of money?

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Originally Posted by Elixir

Instead of them working on enviroments I don't see why they aren't working on the FUCKING CARS. Seriously, they're heading in the wrong direction here. In this picture you can see that the cars don't look finished, and the only thing I've seen an improvement in them over GT4 is the shadows and lighting.

Also, I like their road signs.

GT5 is a mid 2008 title. What was shown at TGS was admitted by the director himself to be something they cobbled up quickly. You can see the lighting hasn't even been applied to the track (that's why the car looks so out of place), the car itself needs some more light maps.

As for your wigging out about the cars, it takes them 6 months to completely model one, but they've got a 100+ team. Their focus is on the cars, because that (and the mountain range) were the only two decent looking things there.

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Hey, did they ever announce what that surprise 5 word game was going to be for the launch?

Yes, it was OPM that gave that little hint, by the way it's:

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

From the screens released it looks like a shoddy port job, but the game is solid nonetheless.

Originally Posted by Elixer

So what is this sample business I hear about being available at the PS3 launch, possibly a downloadable pay-for-play feature? I'm assuming this is something like Gran Turismo 4's "Prologue" but I haven't played that so I don't know if it's an actual independant game.

In January 07, GT HD and Premium will be released for the PS3. Both are packaged together. Let me explain this:

GT:HD comes without cars or tracks, and you purchase them via microtransactions. IIRC, to get all the cars and tracks you'd have to spend ~$300-$400. GT Premium is basically GT5 Prologue, an early showng of a game that's got a lot of polishing ahead of it.

Another difference is that GT:HD uses GT4's photo mode models, and tracks while GT Premium has tracks and cars modeled from scratch on the PS3. One final thing, GT:P comes with only 30 cars and even fewer tracks.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Elixir

So basically it's a waste of time. As if the PS3 isn't going to be expensive enough, but you have to cough out further for a beta version of a game which won't even be released the same year. And the beta is released in january, a year and a half before the actual product is released.

That sounds like mega bullshit. It also sounds like Metroid Prime: Hunters, which takes up the same scenario, except the demo was bundled with the DS for free. I'm not one to be fussy, but paying for "virtual cars" or "virtual tracks" with actual money is garbage.

People could probably question that with "well, you buy a game to play in a virtual world, so what's your point?" but you're actually physically purchasing something and physically obtaining something which could be credited for if it were, say, stolen. I don't see why people should have to pay more just to be aheaad of the rest.

Agreed, that's why my stance on this is: Don't buy it

Vote no with your wallet and show Polyphony that this shit doesn't fly, because if we don't, expect to find ourselves paying $60 bucks for an incomplete game with downloadable content raping your wallet just to finish the game.

I don't see any reason to get this, since the final game will be at least 20x better than this and actually come with tracks and cars.

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