[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

A Linux OS? That's going a little overboard, especially since last I heard that the interface and whatnot were simply Linux based, not the actual OS itself. Hopefully this doesn't detract from where attention SHOULD be going in regards to BC, enhancements, etc..

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Originally Posted by Megalith

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/05/sc...-to-599-euros/

PS3 to cost $500. It's over.

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...Why is it that every pricing "slip" comes from SCEE? I remember way back one of the VPs mentioned another price in yen hoping the press wouldn't figure out the exchange rates between currency to get the $ amount.

I call fake just like that concept controller. E3's going to be interesting, I'll give you that.

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Originally Posted by Terran Gell

As far as price goes...

http://www.gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=3108

Definitely sounds more plausible than what we were getting earlier. Standalone BR players are over $1000, while the value of the player in the PS3 ranks far lower (and therefore is priced lower). As I said earlier, the CPU and GPU will be taking care of what would normally be done via hardware in a standlaone, compromising performance but also reducing costs.

Kind of like the mediocre DVD playback capabilities of the PS2. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see the same happen to all these other bulletpoints. Barebones interface, chat, interactivity, downloads, etc.

And then the upgrades come around to unlock the full features of the console. For a price.

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Originally Posted by El Ray Fernando

That better not be true of the PS3, I don't want to pay X amount of money for a so called 'blu-ray player' if its gonna have shitty play back.

It probably is when you look at the PS2 and how even cheap DVD players trump it in quality and features. The BR drive in the PS3 is basically the only thing that makes it similar to other Blu-Ray players. If you notice, his $600-$700 value statement (of the drive alone) and compare that with the $1500 machines from other companies.

$400 is a good price point to launch, given the apperance of a premium product alongside a recently price-dropped 360 as well as giving them an ample range over which to drop prices.

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AFAIK, the BRD have 1.5x DVD = 1x BR. I could be wrong, but this was what it was last time I checked. Kaiten, the resizing to a lower resolution if a HDCP compliant connection is lacking has to be noted on the box. Many of the studios have said they won't have this security feature, though WB is the only one that has considered using them.

Basically, if they do so, they have to note it somewhere on the case. If they don't, you get HD video over component or whatnot with HDCP.

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Originally Posted by Kaiten

I remember hearing some form of conrete disc protection will be put into PS3 game discs. Could someone find me some more info on this?
My guess is it'll resemble the encrypted file system DVD-Video has, not letting you copy unless the program you use is authorized to do so (or capable of cracking it).

You mean managed copy? That's for Blu-Ray. There was a rumor about games locking themselves to a particular machine so only new games would work, not used ones. This rurmor was shot down pretty much the same day by Sony themselves. =P

PS3 games are just games on BRD, that's all.

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Well, a $400 price point for Japan and North America isn't all that strange, since many folks are talking about Europe possibly getting raped by an absurdly high price for the machine.

E3 (and the megaton-dropping conferences before it) aren't that far off, so we can finally see an end to all this speculation.

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

Kutaragi talked about the price?

I thought it was some European VIP who spoke about it on radio.

Nope, at the semi-grand unveiling where various things were announced (one of which being that the final controller design would be at E3) it was announced that the PS3 would be at a competitive price but not lower than $425 or some odd number like that.

I doubt the European rep knew the price, as that's one thing that'll probably be hotly debated within Sony up until the last minute, quite possibly like the PSP.

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

Woah. Sony reported through a financial press release that it'll loose close to a billion dollars during the first year of the PS3.

A loss similar to the one the reported a few months before the PS2 launched, if not a little higher. So far, there's nothing we haven't seen before in their march towards their supposed launch date.

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

Sorry, I'm not a millionaire, so a billion dollars is a lot of money for me.

What does that have to do with a corporation with over 3 billion? I just said that we saw similar loss predictions out of Sony a few months before the PS2 launched. This isn't the PS3 alone, even though their game division is probably making up a big part of that number.

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Eh, I think this is a little early but Namco's release some stuff for Ridge Racer 7. The game's not due for ~7 months, and none of these look like in-game stuff. However, they've mentioned that this and Tekken will be at E3. Enjoy these for what they're worth.









Here's what appears to be the online interface:



Looks like Reiko Nagase, the series' main lady, is getting old.



And here's Ai Fukami from RRV's intro for a nice comparison.



I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by speculative

Interesting news. I could skip Ridge Racer 6 and head right to 7. That is, if Sony can get into my good graces enough to erase the whole DRM/Rootkit issue, their 1-disk-1-ps3 anti-piracy lunacy, how they screwed over Fiona Apple's latest release to make it sound like it was performed by a drunken cover band, and the list goes on...

- How does SCEI have anything to do with Sony-BGM, when Sony's stake in it is at best 50%? The whole rootkit issue shouldn't even come up in a thread about a game console.

- That was a rumor, the only one shot down by Sony themselves. It was based on Kutaragi's interest in certain protection methods and some comments he made on it.

- Maybe she has no talent? It's possible, but again, this is something far removed from the division in charge of computer entertainment and even farther from PS3 software and hardware development.

If you don't like Sony, and there's tons of reasons not to, the best way to get at them is not buying ANY of their stuff. Hit them where it hurts.

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The new controller is just a Dual Shock 2 with L2/R2 as triggers as well as wireless capability. It has 4 labeled lights on top indicating which player you are, as well as a USB plug so you can connect to the PS3 (for charging maybe?).

Conference has been boring as shit, though. The reactions from GAF are hilarious.

- Wireless Dual Shock 3 with L2/R2 triggers and USB
- Black is default color for PS3, available at launch
- Console is literally covered in vents
- HDD comes standard with every machine, no "core", removable

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- Controller has 6 degrees of motion built into it
- 2 models, 20GB HDD ($499), 60GB ($599)

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SHE COMIN' BUILT IN YO.

I mean, the only thing more insane than that price is the people who are actually gonna buy it at said price point.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Wow, this just in, the $499 model doesn't have an HDMI output, internal Wi-Fi or memory card slots.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/rele...f/060509ae.pdf

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Originally Posted by Dayvon

I think you just dropped a BIG bomb.

Designed by the specialists at Sony Bomba Facilities to eliminate any and all good points of the PS3.

Originally Posted by Shonos

Please tell me this is a joke. What happened to not pulling a MS 360, Sony?

Joke? This is far from it, given the tone in the PDF and the absurd price recently announced. As far as I'm concerned, this gen is 360 + Wii to me.

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle

So, if you get the cheaper model you have to store your game saves on the HDD?

Seems so. Here's pics for the low end version and the high end one, the latter being the one of the metal finish. Notice the high end version has the Wi-Fi indicator on the front, while the 499 model does not.





Oh, and it weighs 11 pounds.

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Originally Posted by Mucknuggle

Wow. That's huge.

Yeah, if I remember the PS2's stats correctly, the machine is only 4.5-5 pounds. This thing is not only gargantuan in size, it's also a scale tilter.

I was speaking idiomatically.

What's fucked up, at least for me at least, is that I actually want to play quite a few PS3 games. But the total assfuck that Sony's pulling won't fly. At least there's always Nintendo and price drops on this machine.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

According to the Wiki info on it, 8.5 pounds. Wouldn't be surprised if this is the heaviest console in a long time.

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Originally Posted by Monkey King

Despite some of the assertions being thrown around here, the prime video game demographic is the 12-16 age group.

I just did a quick google search and I got an old economist article on the industry and the average gamer age is 28, a far cry from the 12-16 you mention. 18-34 is far more likely, a group that definitely has the disposable income needed to buy this thin.

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Study your history, chil'lun. You know what other console was $600? The Neo-Geo. Cut and run while you can; you're gonna have to go to Microsoft for your "grown-up" games.

Yeah, I forsee Sony dropping the price like it's hot once the dismal sales numbers roll in. At least they should, considering that they're risking the company's future as a whole on this all-on-one machine.

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Originally Posted by DragoonKain

I've heard that before and I just can't buy that. I don't know anyone over 30 who even owns a video game console, and if you walk into every house that has a 15 year old kid in it, it's going to have a PS2 in that house.

Err, that information's based on polls done and the like while what you're pointing out is anecdotal evidence to the contrary. I won't deny that lots of kids have consoles, it's just that going by poll after poll over the years the same demographic remains. Heck, it'll even get older as more gamers age and play into their golden years.

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Originally Posted by Cetra

With a decent DA converter, there would be minimal difference. HDMI will offer a sharper picture, but nothing as drastic as being described around here. The jump in quality between component to HDMI is actually less than the jump between S-video and component.

And that's a small jump indeed, given how I've run through quite a few HDMI/Component DVD players (including the Zenith model that allowed up-conversion via component before the firmware was fixed) on my TV. It's definitely something only the most anal audio/videophiles would whine about.

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And this is all assuming Sony doesn't offer a DVI solution for the multi-out which is entirely possible and would result in picture quality identical to HDMI output. It would just lack the ability to decrypt a ACSS stream.

Not that it would matter with games, and as you mentioned earlier, the studios aren't planning on using the ICT flags to downrez until 2010.

I'd definitely take a wait and see approach on this machine, looking at sales and industry support for it before buying it.

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Originally Posted by Cetra

It was just an oversight and you can't even see it with a properly configured monitor and color profile which whoever at Sony made this most likely has. If you can see that logo flash you need to reconfigure your monitor. :P

I just tweaked my gamma settings last week (since I'm too frugal to go for a calibrator) and can't see it at all. Same thing happened over on GamingAge. BTW, Cetra, what do you use to adjust your monitor settings/make color profiles? Something like QuickGamma or that in-built Adobe Photoshop option?

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