[PS2] Final Fantasy XII

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Originally Posted by Lazlow

....I beaten Vayne and his other forms but the third was kinda over doing it but the ending was uh how should I say this, touching. you see I enherited my mother's emotions...well some of it (crying easily during sad parts of a movie) and thats about much it and plus I sounded like a wimp *sighs* I guess that what happens when I bottled up my emoitions like that Anyway I'm gonna lvl up all my characters and complete all the marks (which it won't be an easy task) but it never hurts to try.

Lazlow, spoiler tag your post. While it's pretty obvious, some folks don't want to know ahead of time.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Scratch and Sniff

Wow, I'm working on the 40th hunt of Fafnir, I think, and this hunt just doesn't want to come out. I'm on the Western Side of the Pana' Rift, and I keep tracking back and forth trying to get the weather to turn to blizzard, but it just so happens I've been doing this for about 30 minutes now.

And I almost got a half decent TV deal today, 4096D with 5.1 system and DVD player for $2900, but that's no real deal, honestly.

Leave Paramina Rift via the Feywood exit, and zone back and forth there until a Blizzard starts. Then, make your way to the western side of that two part map (I think it's Silverflow's End).

Make sure you avoid the Frozen Brook map or something, since that map makes the blizzard go away.

That... doesn't sound like much of a deal. Just buy the components seperately, so you can spend your money how you want on each part without getting something you don't want.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

There is actually a trick that will keep the blizzard flowing through out.

First teleport to Mt. Bur Ominisce (Sp). When you enter Paramina Rift, make sure its a Blizzard. Make a right and head straight to the next section. It should still be a blizzard. Next go straight down to the next section. When you get to this section, click the map and you will see 2 entrence was to the next section. Take the very bottom one. Then take the last exit to where you got to go to fight Fafnir.

Found this trick on a webiste to keep it a Blizzard.

How is this even a trick? Avoid the Frozen Brook map after you've started a Blizzard (it's easier entering from the Feywood) and make your way to where Fafnir is while avoiding said map.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Scratch and Sniff

Also, how difficult is this Fafnir guy. Basically most of my hunts now have been pieces of cake. I hear this guy can dish out 7000 damage, but I do have bubble for all my guys, even Reddas is tagging along. I'm high 80s for my level.

You're not going to have much of a problem if you keep your defensive suite up, have Gambits for Stop on hand, and Curaja too. Make sure you move behind him (while keeping the other two within Curaja range), so you can have at least one character out of White Breath's range. This is to avoid everyone getting stopped/taking damage.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

Because, most people don't know that you can keep the blizzard flowing. I read on some webiste that the blizzard follows a path. Why wast your time constantly going back and forth, back and forth, enter and re-enter waiting for it to blizzard, when the steps I provided takes less than a minute to do.

The blizzard keeps flowing until you enter Frozen Brook. Trust me, I've tried it. Got the blizzard going by entering through the Feywood, and went around the entirety of the rift except for the map that stops the blizzard.

On top of that, the map you use to start the blizzard has a Leshach Entite on it (and another close by) and it loads faster than Bur-Omisace to P. Rift.

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Beside when you enter Paramina Rift from Mt. Bur Ominisc (Sp), it starts the blizzard anyways.

As it does from the Feywood to the Rift, except that it loads faster. Bur-Omisace > Rift isn't a guaranteed Blizzard as you're stating.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

Well that is what I read, and i didn't know until I read it. After I read it, I was fighting Fafnir in no-time.

Just mentioning that it's basically the same thing I'm saying, except from another entrance. But basically, if you get the blizzard to start (this is the easiest part), avoid the Frozen Brook map and head towards the map section where Fafnir is.

Much easier than getting the weather right for Lindwyrm (I hate having to zone completely out of an area).

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

I hear ya on that one.


Hey, I wish there was another way to get the genji gloves. I only have the shield. I figured out the Genji after the 1st time I faught him....Wish you can create it in the bazaar.

It's one of those few missables in the game. IIRC, the gloves can be had after he has less than 40% of his HP left or lower. You could just set a gambit to steal at Foe: HP < 40%. But yeah, I wish you could make them in the bazaar. It'd be like the Masamune, so it wouldn't be without precedent.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

hey Lazlow, is that in the Pharos?? If so, take the elevator to B1F. If you do not see NO monster, run around the circle. He'll come incontact with you. But the only way hell show is if B1F has no Monsters. If you see monsters, get back on the elevator and go up. Then come back down again to B1F and check to see if their is No monster.

I am getting totally frustrated with Bombshell. I must've have killed 15-20 of them things and NO Yagyu Darkblades. WTF do I got to do just to get a dang sword. I either get Nothing ....Arcana ....or Pile of Bomb Ashes .....

Actually, he'll show up on any floor of the Subterra that has no enemies in that ring area, but B1F is simply easier to select (less selection hassling). Keep trying to with Bombshell, he'll eventually fork it over.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

What I do is Alternate. When I use 2 of my strong guys to atk and 1 to heal, once in a blue moon have the healer atk. But Once his MP goes down. I switch. Ill let my healer atk, so his MP goes back up and use one of my other characters to heal. Thats what I do and it works for me.

At your level, you should be doing absolutely savage amounts of damage. With both MP restoring licenses (augments), you shouldn't be running out before the fight ends. Heck, the longest fight in the game was probably Yiazmat and I never ran low.

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I just faught the Zodiarc and dude is way too easy, but I did lose. I had him almost dead, then he used that dark magic thing. What I am pissed about, everyone of my party Vaan, Bashe and Beltheir was full 9,999 with bubble. When he used it with a small amount of bar, it killed me. I was kicking its butt.

Darkja, random instant death effect (like Yiazmat's physical attacks towards the end). It can, and will, wipe your active party if you're unlucky.

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I have a question though, do I need to eqip some kind of armor that negates or limits Dark element to protect me from his dark magic?

Black Masks (Balfonheim) or Demon Shields (Necrohol) absorb dark magic, so the only thing you have to worry about is the random death effect. Oh, and he also has a holy based attack called Banishing Ray, so have white masks ready for that.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER_2825

I also can't think of a fight where my MP ran low. The only times where I have needed an ether or needed to charge was fights where the enemies would use "Fearga". Aside from that though you should be fine. Like you said MS, with augments you should be gaining MP every time you either recieve damage or dish some out.

Yeah, if an enemy did Fearga I'd break out Charge+Ether or any kind. Just enough to get me in the black in terms of MP so they can restore the rest themselves.

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Correct me if I am wrong but in order to fight Omega you need ll 13 espers right? I thought that you did and I was almost finished with the Great Crystal BS puzzle again when I realized I have yet to face Zodiarc. So I promptly turned around and and currently about to go through the Henne Mines to take down the final esper. I think I will shoot myself if I was wrong and was able to fight Omega withough having all 13 epsers. As to why I didn't simply finish the last gate and find out for myslef, I don't know.

Nah, you only need to have accepted the Yiazmat hunt. Some folks thought you had to beat Yiazmat, but that's not the case because some went to Omega's area before that and he was active.

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MS, there can't be much left for you to do. You still playing or kinda takin off from XII?

Like PiccoloNamek, I'm basically done with FFXII. Got myself 3 Yagyu Darkblades from a 30 chain drop a while back so the only things I'm missing are GG, Zodiac Spear and Danjuro. Aside from that, the rest of the game is complete 100%, and have since started and completed Okami @ 100% too.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

well sp error....does it really matter.....

anyways, now to the Giruvegen . I hate that place. Like a Maze. But do you need the Diamond Amulet to get Excaliber and the strongest Shield (forget the name)?

You don't need the Diamond Armlet for Excalibur, but it's recommended while the chest with the Zodiac Escutcheon/Brave Suit in it does require it. Oh, and if you get the Brave Suit there when the chest actually appears, no more Z. Escutcheons from there, from then on.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Scratch and Sniff

I'm on my way to take down Zordiak. I found the note on the ground regarding some "stash", do I need to find this "stash"? Also, those slime doods in the new Shaft 2 of Henne Mines are serious business, even more so than the bombs in the Gate Crystal past Girguvagen.

Mom Bombs are just annoying if you let them get off a ton of physical hits/detonate. Hecteyes are serious rapists if you don't guard against confuse or their Thundaga spam. I just engage them physically, since they'll freeze one of your people if you try to cast against them (and will get torn up by the bats in that case).

Still, they're not that bad.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by vectaman

Even though Yiazmat was the longest fight, I think imho that Zodiark was the most challenging. (STRATEGY TIP) Even though I had Black Masks equipped to absorb his Darkja attack, there were cases when it wasnt always absorbed and instead caused a KO. Near the end he just kept bombarding that spell hardly leaving me anytime to make a move, but I nailed him with a shot of Scathe between every 2-3 casts of Darkja and he fell to his ,umm, "knees".

Protip: Darkja has an added effect, just like the rest of the Esper "Ja" spells.

For example, Belias' Firaja inflicts Oil. Zodiark's added effect is random death. Trust me, the Black Masks are tactical boon, as they free time which would've been taken up by Curaja/Renew/etc and turns it into another valuable attack turn. Especially near the end when, as you said, he just spams that bullshit.

I've noticed something: Most of us off the bastard with Scathe in the end. I guess that's a benefit of being by far the best attack spells (non-elemental).

Saga, Juggernaut is that tree-like rare game right? I don't remember the particulars, but I just randomly ran across him while pass through the Feywood. Sounds like it's one of those "randomly replaces X monster in field" like Grimalkin.

Edit: Heh, I was off with everything except the randomness aspect:

Originally Posted by rare game guide

Rare Monster No. 24/80

Name : Juggernaut (339)

HP : 77000
EX : 1797
LP : 12

Weak : Wind
Drops : White Mask, Lumber
Steal : Mystletainn
Original : Golem
Rare Rank : ****
Location : Feywood/ White Magick's Embrace
Appearance : Appear randomly when your game clock's Minute is between 0 and 10.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by davey

to get some of the rare bazaar goods do u have to sell the appropiate loot items all at the same time to get a particular bazaar good or will it keep track of what u traded in?

It keeps track of the loot you turned in, but to err on the side of caution, turn them all in at once.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

ahhh...I thought you encountered him. But the Henne Mines is a good place to build up your LV. My LV is LV96 ad 95. I am doing the hunt, and Now got to go to the Pharos to fight Tower and Avenger ....Great. Hate that place too.....

Avenger's very easy to smoke out. Tower... let's just say you're going hate whoever came up with the Pharos area by the time you nail him.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Saga

where is the easiest place to get zodiac escutcheon ? barheim Passage? or upper crystal? ....and do you need the diamond armelt equipped? ta!

Great Crystal, equip the Diamond Armlet. The other one is far less reliable (seriously, don't try it). A note though: Save before heading to the chest, because if you get a Brave Suit (50% chance of either if equipped with the Diamond Armlet) the Zodiac Escutcheon will disappear from said location permanently.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Scratch and Sniff

The Ending Movie was

FUCKING EPIC

Total Playtime - approximately 177 hours

Not according to some people. Apparently it lacked closure, and evil villains, and was boring and didn't have Kefka and Sephiroth sucks...

It was a great ending to a game I had a lot of fun playing. I think the criticisms come from people who are too used to the cataclysm trope we find in RPGs all over the place so when something reasonable and expected is given to them, it's "bad".

Oh and Balthier, even with the scarce story, has more character than most FFs combined

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Scratch and Sniff

Well yeah? Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. Just kidding!

Balthier is hot. I'd hit him.

Hmm, it seems like Balthier and BigBoss apparently make many folks pine after them, heh.

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Balther ending:

Wait, him and his fuck bunny live, right? STEALING THE STRAHL LIEK WUT

More ending spoilers:

I still love that little exchange between Fran and Balthier.

Balthier: The leading man never dies
Fran: I'd say you're more of a supporting role
Balthier: Fran, please.

The way you find out they're still alive is just like them too. Though I'm still rather uncomfortable with the whole Ashe/Basch thing. What the fuck... I bet a lot of what was cut would've explained how this came about.

I still think the Final Fantasy IX ending had one of the most happy endings. O Zidane you. I cried when him and Garnet were having happy happy love love time.

Speaking of which, loool Garnet and Ashe, we are Rulers of the Kingdom now!

Also, I somehow fear now I might not be able to get the Samsung LNS 4096D HDTV ;____;[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that part was actually nice. All of them probably thought he was dead, so her glee was nice to see. Oh, the fact that two older characters had a love thing going didn't hurt either.

Eh? What happened? Got laid off? Sold out?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Scratch and Sniff

After beating the game, I really have no motivation to go see this Yiazmat dood nor the Zordiak.

Do it for Montblanc, it killed his dear Master and left him and his brethren (The Moogling moogles at the gates in Rabanastre, Nono and Gurdy) homeless.

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Things I didn't like at all in FFXII:

1) Espers are a total waste in this game. They're fun to fight, but hell to actually use well. And the out come isn't worth it. [b]In the time where you spend to actually summon the bloody thing, you could have finished off the baddie with your regular attacks.[b]

Yup, they were essentially nice challenge battles but totally worthless otherwise. That last line sums up offensive technique that's not melee in this game.

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2) Strahl, what the fuck. I've lived with the fact that on PS2 FFs, you can't pilot the ship around, but FFX does it right. You can go anywhere you damn well please, even the most obscure places, with the Continental Circus -as well as get into the ship . With the Strahl, you're pretty much stuck to most aerodomes or some outdoor areas. Whatever, thank god for teleport stones, no seriously. Even the regular airliners you take from city to city are more acceptable.

Yeah, the Strahl was fucking ridiculous. I mean, this game was arguably less linear than FFX, the areas were much larger and the ship covers about 35-40% of the world? For example, anything South of Jahra/Eruyt you have to teleport or walk to. Salika, and the 2 Ns are off limits too. It's like they threw the Strahl in only as a means to get up to the final dungeon.

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It not like I'm a poor bastard to go buy teleport stones from Dyne at 100 gil a piece. All I can say is Balthier got ripped off, paying probably a damn shit load of gil to get the Strahl where it costs porbably close to 500,000 for that ship, where as I could get 99 teleport stones for a fraction of that cost, which would last much of my life as a resident of um, Rabanastre or Archades I suppose.

Remember, crystals only warp you to those you've touched before. Having a ship and using teleport crystals would work well, as you'd be able to expand your "crystal network" rather quickly. Otherwise they'd be worthless except for any place that you go to often.

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3) Only one dungeon that features you heavily fighting on a ship. The Leviathan is probably my most favorite dungeon in the whole game. I LOVE the smooth and sexy features of the interior of the ship, it's not gaudy, but very nice and futuristic.

4) Most of the other dungeons are rather forgettable. Raithwall was somewhat interesting with the massive interior as you go down the steps, as is the lighthouse of Pharos (which some of the interior was nice but much of it bland and forgettable). I really liked the entrance to the Stillshrine of Miriam, but inside was rather bleh.

I didn't have much of a problem with the Leviathan since that's kind of what I imagined the inside of a military ship would look like, and it matched what the exterior of the ship looked like too.

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4) Quickenings and special attacks. These "LIMIT BREAKS" or what have you are too risky to use, and most of the time basically act as a penelization on your MP, which sometimes is more vital than your HP. However, most boss battles don't even require this.

Don't use Quickenings. They're worthless, and are little more than a liability if you do. You're essentially resting the fate of the battle on your luck with the shuffle. Often times, this isn't enough to finish a boss.

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OFFTOPIC TO METAL SPHERE: The 4096D can only be bought in the Canadian Futureshops (basically Best Buy) but is an exclusive item. Most of the TVs now are sold out in my city and only a select stores have them. I don't have the money right now to get it, and my mom isn't willing to pitch in to get the TV, I can understand. I might have to fall back onto the 4095D, and miss out on the super sexy glass bezel. God I cum over that thing, and it's really the only reason I secretly choose the 96 over the 95. How is the Sharp Aquos TVs - I checked them up and they seem to be lacking heavily in the contrast ratio department?

If the only difference between the Futureshop exclusive and the 4095D is an aesthetic one, just go for the latter option. You're still getting the same technical performance, just without a bezel that's susceptible to glare.

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Still at any rate, this is the first Final Fantasy game that I can proudly boast that I've never seen the GAME OVER screen. Not even once (which I don't think I could have kept intact should I have faced off Zordiak or Yiazmat). After you level up like crazy in the Stillshrine with the Negalmuur up to about level 85, and get your party using "Save the Queen" swords, you're pretty much set for a total cake walk the rest of the game. The only boss that took me over 60 seconds to beat was the final final final boss. That took me about 240 seconds. :wink:

Yeah, with a half-decent Gambit setup you won't have to worry about dying, money stops being an issue fairly soon and the more you fight the more points you have for Augments. Heh, that Save the Queen comment was a riot. Try Tournesol, Whale Whisker and Masamune. The only reason it took more than 30 seconds at my level was because of the paling + cinematics.

Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

You know... I wish there was a beastiary entry for "Occuria". That would be so damn awesome.

Holy crap, stop putting stuff into my mind, heathen beast! Imagine another optional dungeon Throne of the Gods, where you could get some uber-good weapons/armor for each type. On top of that, you could fight each of the Occuria and gain different entries for them. Imagine you fight them and during said fight they summon the scions of light. Of course, all this would be wrapped up in a beautiful but labyrinthine dungeon with level 89-95 monsters.

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

Hey Metal Sphere----why you change your Avatar?? I thought the other one was tight.

I had the FFXII avatar/sig for a good bit. I have to show props to another game that I had a fantastic time with. After this will probably be Rogue Galaxy though.

Thanks for the compliments guys. I just had a ball with twelve, and since there's an ungodly amount of things to do and keep track of, I decided to find out as much as I could. As for Ozmone Plain, try zoning from a completely different area. Are you trying to get Sylphi Entite to appear? IIRC, it only appears when the sky is completely cloudy and there's actual rain coming down. That way you can see its element in action (Wind).

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Scratch and Sniff

Actually to be more accurate, I don't think I ever got a game over screen in FFIX either. All the others I have so far, at least once.

What is this Occuria? Marquis Ondore kept droning about it while I was sleeping. Does this have anything to do with Venat :3. As you can see, it's quite a surprise of how long I managed to stick with this game without even paying attention to the most basic of details. I'm just not the inquisitive type.

Occuria = Amaterasu, Yomigami, Nuregami, Bakugami, Kabegami, etc...

Spoiler:

The Occuria are the Gods spoken of in bestiary entries. They're the ones that gave Raithwall the sword to cut deifacted nethicite from the sun-cryst. Same thing they did with Ashe in FFXII.

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I have a feeling if you tried to fight them you'd get your ass handed to you royally. Remember how Venat manhandled Gabranth? And he didnt' even have to manifest. How could you even attack something you couldn't see, hear, or touch?

Trick or force them into taking a physical form, much like Venat does. Any power they might use could be absorbed by deifacted Nethicite. Just saying, they're not nigh untouchable, there's a reason why they're cooped up all the way out there.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

YEEEEEEEEEEAH....well I am in the Great Crystal(Not using any help with this) and for some reason was so . Anyways I found my way out and now I just defeated Ultima. (My 13 ESPER is complete) . I had to use 3 Megaelixer for this b/c he used that magic thatr drains your MP.

I thought I was having a deja vu for a moment that magic similar to Zodiark but white. I also used 3 Mist on him and took him down.

If anybody can clear this up, why was it everytime I would hit him, his power would go down then back up? He didn't have reverse on me until his power was very low.

So far Ultima (Gone), Chrystal Night (Gone), and Evil Spirit (Gone). 2 Left: Omega and Larva Eater.

Ohh I managed to get the Excalibur and Stoneblade but not the Zodiark Eschelion. Anybody know where that shield is? Right Now I am at the Save Crystal (Thank You Lord) before Ultima. There is 3 path: Middle, left and right. Ultima was in the middle, if you take the right path, their is a waystone. Do not know whats on the left path though.

The Left path goes to a gate switch. I think it's Aquarius, which you use and then run all the way back to Aquarius 1 and access the Taurus gate switch. The Zodiac Escutcheon/Brave Suit chest is behind Taurus II.

Originally Posted by tyPops

Thanks Metal Sphere for your response : ) Yes, I am trying to get Sylphi Entite to appear.

Well, I did go all the way to Giza and come back. I also tried walked between Gimore jungle and Ozmone Plain and neither of these works. Well, I have to say this is my 1st time visiting Gimore jungle but it seems everyone have seen that cloudy weather at least once on their 1st arrival. And I NEVER manage to see it. It has ALWAYS been blue sky, with a sun, and a little bit of cloud.

I also tried to visit Ozmome when Giza is dry and when it is wet. Still nothing happend... Is the weather change based on a %, or is it base on some other formula like [no. of steps you taken - a secret number]?

Well, any advice would be MUCH MUCH appericated. I have spent at least 10 hours to get that cloudy weather appear >_<

No problem. I'd say just keep trying, maybe try from the Zertinan Caverns? I've found that entering Ozmone from there would net me the windy/rainy weather.

FELIPE NO

Take the Diamond Armlet OFF when attempting to get the Fomalhaut from the chest behind the Antlion. There's not that many in the game, but certain chests will never give you non-Armlet items when you have it equipped.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by espressivo

Hah, I find it funny you guys aren't having any luck getting the Fomalhaut, I happened to get it on my first try without knowing what's suppose to be in it.

I just beat the game, and I gotta say, this is probably the best final fantasy ending (that i've seen) yet.

I got it on my first try too, the thing is, I didn't have the Diamond Armlet at that point so I didn't run into this problem. BTW, I couldn't agree more with your opinion on the ending.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

Yeah I got the Formalhaut also on my first try without the Armlet. I also found another Formalhaut in Cerobi Stepp (but had Armlet equpped).

Having a little difficulty if anybody can help me:
I have found and defeated everything in my Beastiary but I am not getting the Ba'Gamnan(in the Sky Pirates Den). In my beastiary, their are some that haves numbers right beside them. Do I have to clear everyone of those to get that Ba'Gamnan?

Sounds like you're probably missing a monster or two that you've never encountered before. Find a bestiary list and go down the list looking at all of them, and check yours against it.

The game only shows you what you've killed, not what you haven't.

Originally Posted by Dark Nation

Hey guys, I'm hovering around Lv. 45-46, should I go ahead towards the Pharos place/Mysterious island & all that, or should I make an attempt towards Lv. VI and up marks?

Go right ahead. You're going to level up quite a bit in the Pharos anyway (it's a very long dungeon).

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by LilGreekKid

Metal Sphere-----There is some that are in white. Some that, for instance Mandragoras at Phone Coast, they will have a #14 right next to it. When you kill another Mandragoras, it drops to 13 and so on.

Trust me on this one: You don't have to get every monster's secondary bestiary entry. I have like 10 Mandragoras to kill left and I have Order of Ambrosia & Ba'Gamnan. You're probably missing a monster you've never killed before or something.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.