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Old Oct 17, 2006, 07:19 AM #226 of 3592
Originally Posted by espressivo
Anyway, the other games look pretty bad except for blast factor and flOw.
Err, can you tell me what's bad about them? Lemmings pretty much looks like it always has, just in HD and we don't even have screens for the thief game. A bit premature with the judgements, when these aren't even in their native res?

Here's some screens from Swizzle Blocks, another downloadable title and a gameplay video for Flow.













PS3 Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom (these are games that are going to be shown at Gamers Day on the 19th):











Virtua Tennis 3:











Ridge Racer 7:

















Full Auto 2:











Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire













Stranglehold:











Sonic PS3/360:









Marvel: Ultimate Alliance












Interesting article on next-gen commentary.

Has the boxart for FEAR been put up here yet? If not, here it is (alone with Rainbow Six: Las Vegas):





There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 08:23 AM #227 of 3592
More screenshots guys! This time from DMC4's cutscene demonstration, check out the detail on Dante's boot.

Realtime cutscene demonstration from which these screenshots were taken. Oh, and here's some combo gifs:




















Not very important, but here's some Eurogamer news regarding GTA IV.

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According to a source close to Rockstar North, the team is working on exclusive supplemental content for both systems, which will be made available for download via Microsoft and Sony's respective online services after the game's release next year.

In case you missed it, Microsoft revealed at X06 that Xbox 360 owners will get "exclusive access to two downloadable, epic episodes of GTA IV via Xbox Live, each with hours of entirely new gameplay and available only on Xbox 360 just months after the release of the title".
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We're told to expect much the same deal on PS3, except unique to the platform. Interestingly, the downloadable content, our source maintains, will take the form of brand new areas which will link into the main GTAIV game world.

"Think of the world as a large island - the new downloadable areas will be like smaller islands linking into it," the source explained. (Which is a structural analogy, rather than a suggestion that the game is set on an island, we hasten to add.)


This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 09:56 AM #228 of 3592
More images incoming, this time they're from the PS3 catalog that was available at TGS.



















I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 11:21 AM #229 of 3592
Originally Posted by Cobalt Katze
Btw, for a few posts back, flOw is very much not like Electroplankton despite the look It's more like the microscopic-level game from Spore... or rather, it's the predicessor of it, since the same designer is working on that aspect of the game.

Checking out the new shots, thanks as usual Sphere~
No problem, these are actually coming from a guy called Elder who stumbled upon the press page at Sony's website, using his press pass and username. I'll link to the original post where he's got it all up if the images start coming down as a good number of them are imageshacked.

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Oh and



Klonoa reference! Make another game!

please?
I'd love it if they made another Klonoa title, anyone have the sales figures for the 2nd title? BTW, there are more references to Namco games on those cars.

Examples: Mitsurugi, Kilik, Arkbird, Osea/Usea/Erusea, etc...

Edit: Holy Hell Hogs, check this info out:

Source

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...Owen Stampflee, Lead Software Engineer of Terra Soft Solutions expresses, "From the days of the Commodore 64 to modern overclocked and water cooled home computers, a battle has raged between dedicated game boxes and home computers for highest quality game play. PLAYSTATION 3 provides an industry first exceptional Linux OS experience ... and Terra Soft the first Linux OS. I am proud to have played a part in this development."

Under basic agreement with SCEI, Terra Soft was granted a unique opportunity to develop and bring to market a complete Linux OS for the Sony PLAYSTATION 3. In development of Yellow Dog Linux v5.0, Terra Soft integrated and enhanced code from Barcelona Supercomputing Center, Sony Group, and Fedora in order to offer the following:
- kernel 2.6.16
- gcc 3.4.4 and glibc 2.4
- Cell SDK 1.1
- OpenOffice.org 2.0.2
- FireFox 1.5.0 and Thunderbird 1.5.0
- Nautilus 2.1.4
... and a suite of Personal Accessories, Development Tools; Sound & Video, Internet, and Networking applications...
Definitely more than what I was expecting to be avaiable, especially with Firefox on there. I've got some of my pals telling me that Yellow Dog, or Linux at least has been compatible with SNES/NES emulators for a while. With BC and those emus, I could have quite a bit of gaming going on. Anyways, we'll just have to way and see how this all pans out.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 01:05 PM #230 of 3592
Ok, I just found out what Nautilus is. Seems like a file management system, probably goes along with Yellow Dog Linux, I bet.

Looks like you get word processing, a well known browser, email capabiltiies and a file managment system that looks kind of like a Mac's. Tons of functionality, and 2 browsers too (the default PS3 OS's and Firefox).

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 07:54 PM #231 of 3592
Several new shots of Ridge Racer 7:

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Namco Bandai lets a few new pieces of info loose on the track.
by Chris Roper

October 17, 2006 - Namco Bandai today unveiled a bit of new info on its forthcoming Ridge Racer 7 for the PlayStation 3. In addition to new media, the publisher/developer also revealed a few new details on the game's customization features and three new machines that you'll be able to grip the wheel of.

The press release details four bits of customization options as follows:

Create the Ultimate Exterior
Players can choose from a variety of body kits, colors and decals to change the look of their machines, as well as a large selection of wheels.

Improved Performance
Perform engine tune-ups and performance upgrades to improve your chances in the extensive GP series.

Customizable Handling
Improve cornering performance by adjusting tires and suspension to customize drift characteristics.

Variable Nitrous
Various nitrous options are now available. Strengthen your normal or ultimate charge, increase the number of nitrous tanks, select auto-charge or reverse charge, or even use flex nitrous, which can be turned on or off at any time!

Straight from the press release, the three newly-unveiled machines are:

Centellee
The latest super sports vehicle from Terrazi boasts a 4000cc V8 engine, a top speed of 210mph and a handcrafted body, making this machine no match for its competitors.

Magnifico
With an extremely practical and luxurious interior, this powerful and sporty car possesses a drastically lightened body, an inline 2000cc 4-cylinder engine, and a top speed of 178mph.

Jujak
This high-tech sports coupe features multi-torque control for variable road and weather conditions, an inline 2700cc 4-cylinder engine and a top speed of 156mph. Jujak is the cutting-edge sports car.

Ridge Racer 7 is scheduled to release alongside the PlayStation 3 when it launches next month.
























New PS3 shots:

























Ninja Gaiden Sigma screens:





















FELIPE NO

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 09:02 PM #232 of 3592
Originally Posted by Cobalt Katze
Sigma's looking sexy. I'm digging the focused motion blur on the sword in one shot, and the last shot's lighting is definately hot stuff.

I think we've sort of worn out the "nice PS3 photos" though... There isn't much more to show other than more angles, more backgrounds, and more fingerprints.
About the PS3 shots, you're right. It's getting to the point where I'm as familiar with what the console looks like as I am with my PS2. All we need now is photos of the console in action, with various PS1/2/3 games functioning on it, screens of the BC, etc...

Pictures of what appears to be the updated XMB dashboard:

Source

"Install other System" (Linux?)


With PS2 Memory Card Adapter


Interfacing with the PSP "remote play"


Playstation Store


HDMI


Browsing Photos


What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 10:07 PM #233 of 3592
Here's some 1080p shots of Ninja Gaiden, easily not 56k friendly:














































How ya doing, buddy?

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 10:36 PM #234 of 3592
Ok, now this is ridiculous. People are camping out just to play the kiosks/set ups that are already going up in Best Buys.

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After strolling into my Best Buy today i noticed a line and that could have only meant one thing. The PS3 kiosk was there? No, not till tommorow, but there was already a line forming outside the store to see the newly setup kiosk area. I have never seen this kind of reaction, not even for the 360.

This is where the kiosk will display. Sorry for the bad quality, i had to be quick with the camera phone.



This is the area where the games will be displayed. Notice the space to right, all the original shelving was taken down for the new display. You can see this display in the back right of the top picture.



The media manager at my Best Buy kept reasuring everyone that the PS3 WOULD BE PLAYABLE the next morning. I will be one of the 20 people already camping out right now. Im writing this on my laptop as I sit out here with the rest of the PS3 boys. Thank god for wireless. More to come soon!

"You can pay 50 bucks a year to play online with them, or you can play for free with us." - Sony Spokesperson, TGS 2006
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Best Buy near me completely redid their video game section and I noticed a big empty spot not unlike where the standee in the pictures was positioned. But they didn't have anything up yet. They also moved the 360 away from the nice La-Z-Boys to the *back* of the game section (wow).


There's nowhere I can't reach.

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 11:00 PM #235 of 3592
Yeah, i heard about the Wii situation. They'll find a way to keep them tethered to the display, though.

Anyway, here's 3 more screens of the XMB in action. This time it looks like it's ripping audio tracks from a CD.





































This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 11:20 PM #236 of 3592
Yeah, I just found out that the second batch of screens shows the PS3 ripping tracks from a CD onto the HDD. The second screen shows the bitrate to choose, though I don't know if this happens before or after the first screen.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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Old Oct 17, 2006, 11:37 PM #237 of 3592
Yup, that's the "chase scene" towards the beginning of the movie. One of my favorite parts of that film, that's for sure.

However, the BR transfer for the movie is terrible. Definitely stick with the Superbit version and upscale.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 06:23 AM #238 of 3592
Here's some screens of that e-distribution game, Criminal Crackdown:



Gamers Day videos:

Full Auto 2 - http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/825/825014/vids_1.html

Virtua Fighter 5 - http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/641/641054/vids_1.html

Sonic the Hedgehog - http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/770/770960/vids_1.html

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 12:16 PM #239 of 3592
It's as simple as this: The Games. period. If Sony simply keeps delivering the old favorites along with new titles, people will buy the machine. The vast majority of casuals will likely pass over the other two in favor of "the next playstation" due to their experiences with the machine for two gens.

Of course, the price will slow sales considerably in post-Holiday times, so they may have to deal with the inevitable lagging demand because of it.









Anyone know what a 'Package File' is?

PS3 Functionality explored

It looks like some of the Japanese press has received PS3s and they've gone at the thing throwing everything they can think of. Connecting external storage devices via USB has already been confirmed, even so, there's quite a bit left to test.

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October 18, 2006 - Leading up to the 11/11 Japanese PS3 release, the Japanese gaming press has taken delivery of PS3 demo units. Included in the lucky bunch is the multimedia division of Impress Watch, whose editorial staff was good enough to put together a feature detailing the PS3's multimedia playback.

We previously described most of the functionality available from the PS3's Cross Media Bar (XMB) interface. Impress offers a few new details. Selecting the "Display Settings" icon from the settings menu gives you access to a menu for chosing your display connection. You can select from "Component or D Cable," "Composite or S-Video," and "AV Multi or SCART." The system displays clear images indicating which plug is which, so beginners shouldn't have too much trouble in getting set up.

The PS3 is capable of selecting resolution for you automatically. However, if you want to select your own resolution, you can chose from 480p, 1080i, 720p, 1080p and "custom." We're not sure what the last one is just yet.

You also have full control over the form of audio that the PS3 outputs. From the Audio Output section of the menu, you can select from Dolby Digital 5.1, DTS 5.1 and AAC, as well as Linear PCM with 2ch, 5.1ch and 7.1ch available in 44.1kHz, 88.2kHz, 48kHz and 192kHz. You can also set this to automatic in case you're not interested in the details. You have three audio cable options available: HDMI, optical and AV Multi.

To set up Blu-Ray playback, you go into the BD/DVD section of the settings menu. Here, you can select the disk's menu language and the default audio and subtitle languages, which isn't anything new if you've used a PSP or one of the Japanese-only PSX systems before.

Good news for those worried about the slow start-up times with current next generation optical disc players. The PS3 loads up a Blu-Ray movie fast. Impress sampled the US version of Fifth Element (Japan won't take shipment of its first commercial Blu-Ray movies until early November) and found that the PS3 took less than 10 seconds to start up the disc after it had been selected from the video section of the Cross Media Bar.

Incidentally, there seems to be a slight difference between when you insert a game disc and a Blu-Ray disc into the PS3. When you put in a Blu-Ray disc, you have to select the disc from the video menu in order to begin playback. With game discs, the system automatically starts playback. The Impress article didn't make mention of a menu option for switching automatic playback for game discs off.

Startup as a whole seems to be pretty quick for the PS3. Impress reports that the time from powering up the system to the appearance of the Sony Computer Entertainment logo is about 10 seconds. Following that, it's another 2 to 3 seconds before the XMB appears. You only see the PlayStation logo when playing games.

Impress describes the PS3's Blu-Ray playback as "simple." The site reports no problems with pop-up menus and other Blu-Ray disc features.

The PS3 is capable of more than just Blu-Ray playback. It's also capable of playing back video directly from the hard disk. Impress was able to play a 1920 x 1080 MPEG2 from hard disk. It's unclear at this point if users will be able to play back VC-1 and H.264 encoded files from the hard disk, although these high powered codecs are, of course, playable from Blu-Ray discs.

In addition to video playback, Impress was also able to sample the PS3's music features. The system can rip CDs to MP3, AAC and ATRAC3 formats, allowing for bit rates of up to 352 kbps. The PS3 is also capable of going online to read into the AMG music database in order to get track information.

One of the cool things about multimedia playback is that the PS3 can play back external files. By connecting a PSP to the PS3 via USB, the music, movies and images that are on the Memory Stick loaded into the PSP become accessible from the video, music and photo menus on the PS3. It's unclear if this is the case when the two systems are communicating via Wi-Fi.

Impress wasn't able to get details on the mysterious "Remote Play" icon from the XMB menu, which promised some sort of PSP connectivity. However the latest issue of Famitsu hints that you'll be able to use this option to enjoy your PS3's movies and music on your PSP. A PSP update is set to coincide with the launch of the PS3, and should make this area a bit clearer.

Another mysterious icon in the PS3 Cross Media Bar is found in the system settings section. The menu has an option labeled "Other System Install," whose function is currently unknown. Linux, maybe?

These are just a few of the PS3's features that remain in the dark at this point. We hope to get clarification leading up to launch or, at the very latest, once we've sampled retail units for ourselves on 11/11.


How ya doing, buddy?

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 02:52 PM #240 of 3592
Originally Posted by SCHWARZE-3
The more PS3 screenshots I see, the more I'm wondering how in hell you're supposed to read those tiny fonts on a regular TV. It's impossible!
They won't be that small on a regular TV, mostly due to the lower resolution.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 03:07 PM #241 of 3592
Originally Posted by SCHWARZE-3
So everything will just be bigger on a regular TV? I'm wondering how they're going to pull this off for games and the browser, for example.
Run your computer at the lowest resolution you can, you'll see what I mean. I've connected my videocard to CRT sets and they've got a very low maximum resolution, resulting in everything looking huge.

Remember, we're looking at pictures of a massive TV. Realistically, that "small font" is actually pretty big on the screen. Not to mention its color.

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I swear, I'm trying not to get too fanboyish with these updates, but when I read more and more of all the near-endless features this system contains, I can't help but lose some of my composure.
GAF is losing its fucking mind, so I'm glad you're keeping it cool. They're going on about Media Center, Emulating on Yellow Dog, BC for PS1 and PS2, FTWs, etc...

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What I wonder now, is if by setting up the video and audio options on the system means that those options will carry over to every PS3 game you'll play. It would be nice to never have to manually configure each game to suit your setup preferences if they're all loaded from the system.
Who knows, that may be so. I know the controller settings are saved on the HDD so you don't have to redo them everytime.

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I'm a bit perplexed by the HDMI Audio option. I thought the PS3 only had one HDMI output, so how are you supposed to hook up an additional one to your home theater? Or does this merely apply to the audio you'd get from the system-to-TV connection?
I think you can designate the HDMI to be the video, and then seperately make the optical out the path through which the sound goes to your receiver.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 03:12 PM #242 of 3592
Here's a ~20min demonstration of the PS3's XMB.

Originally Posted by Qwarky
You can set two resolutions. One for the OS (and thus the picture viewers, videos, browser, etc), and then game output. I'm fairly certain if you select 1080i for games, the console uses this for every PS3 game you put in. Still no idea about how it'll handle PS2 and 1 titles, though.
PS1 and PS2 games? Easy, it'll simply upscale them to whatever resolution you set games to run at. Now, if this is a desirable thing depends on who you ask and how robust its BC features are (if this thing can apply 4x AA and some kind of AF to PS1/PS2 games, it'll breathe new life into them).

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As for "bigger", it's the same thing as changing resolutions on your monitor. Smaller resolutions will make default fonts and icons larger because you're essentially zoomed up close. If you plug in a component cable, the only thing stopping you from outputting at ridiculously high resolutions (and thus smaller text, even though there wasn't that big of a difference, since the menu scales somewhat) on a 20" TV is how much the TV itself can output. Alternatively, feel free to plug in HDMI and outputting at 480.
Yeah, that's pretty much it.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER
Oh, I'm the same. You don't need to be a fanboy to know that this system is opening a world of possibilities here. Transfering saved videos to watch on the PS3 (no more burning DVDs with Nero), custom soundtracks, and god knows how many emulators.
Tell me about it, this thing is shaping up to be quite the multimedia master.

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The emulator thing could especially be something huge. Just think, if the PS3 manages to emulate SNES, Genesis, N64 etc games with no hiccups whatsoever, then this would be a major blow to the Wii's VC. Who's going to pay $5-$10 when you can download all the games you want for free, including fan translations of some of the stuff that's remained in Japan? I wouldn't be surprised if Sony was thinking the same thing.
I wouldn't go that far and say that Sony deliberately sought out to do this, officially. Linux is simply a means to get their Playstation PC in homes as a computer, but it's other implications are huge. Apparently there's already quite a few compatible Linux emulators for older consoles.

Like you said, if the PS3's 512MB and 3.2Ghz can run these smoothly enough, it's not a good thing for the Wii's VC.

Edit: More stuff confirmed:

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-they confirm bluetooth devices will work with the ps3, including cell phone headsets.
-they confirm you can hook up old ps2 eyetoy, or the new eyetoy2
-you can adjust mouse settings. like right or left handed, and pointer speed.
-you can assign music to photo slide shows.
Source

There's nowhere I can't reach.

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 05:01 PM #243 of 3592
Whoa, great find Qwarky! That's the best shot I've seen of the keyboard/mouse/pointer setup area of the XMB.

Got anymore? Oh and it looks like we're going to be in for a treat tomorrow from 2-5

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 05:20 PM #244 of 3592
Originally Posted by Qwarky
Why thank you, I'm pleased people like them.

And yes I do, but the text I wrote is in finnish, unfortunately. If you see any pic that needs explaining, I can go into detail.
I've got a few...
  • In the closeup of the slot loader, the arrow facing the drive, is that a button or some kind of sensor? Is the power button also a sensor or some kind of button? It could either be pressure or heat sensitive. If you don't know, just say that, no biggie.
  • Does the PS3 controller's "PS" button have a name that you know of, and does it glow red during use or after you press it?
  • In the picture where you're holding the Sixaxis with one hand, did it feel too light? I never got to hold it in one hand at the show, and I was too busy getting Resistance impressions to pay too much attention to it.
  • How responsive is the XMB? Any bits where it chugged or lagged?
  • In the resolution menu, I see all the expected resolutions but in the Japanese photos, there seems to be a custom option after 1080p. Is that present anywhere in the model you have available?
  • Have you tried the following items on the PS3:

    - Digital Camera
    - MP3 Player/Ipod
    - Keyboard/Mouse
  • What's with the controller charge screen? How did you get there and what exactly do you do while seeing it?

Sorry for all the questions.

Quote:
http://www.ps3blogi.fi/171006213859_omfgps3wtf.html


Or alternatively, if there's any specific thing you'd like me to take a shot of, I can try tomorrow or Friday when I'm at work.
Hmm, could you try and get us a look at the console's vents to try and see what's cooling this thing? Everything else is just great, the quality of the photos is excellent, so any more photos you take is entirely up to you.

Oh, one last question Qwarky. That television... Did you have hot sex with it?
Seriously is that the European version of the XBR3 seen in the Japanese photos? How's the image quality? Screen Door Effect? Color Uniformity?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 05:33 PM #245 of 3592
Originally Posted by BlueBomber
Has anybody gotten a PS3 kiosk in at their local Best Buys yet? Weren't you guys saying that they were supposed to start going up today? I'm curious to go check it out and see if they have a playable PS3 up and running...
There's one impression going around online, but it sounds too much like a schill or at least too biased to really take seriously. If you want, I can put it up. The official roll out for the kiosks is the 20th.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 06:13 PM #246 of 3592
Originally Posted by Qwarky
I really don't know what exactly it uses. I can't imagine Sony would be stupid enough to start blowing money on something like heat sensing sensors, but they both felt part of the surface, not clickable buttons. We're still debating whether the power buttons does the reset/power off thing the same way as the PS2, or whether it differentiates between a quick tap and a proper press down.
Hmm, so you guys are currently torn between what seems like either a shallow button or a pressure sensor. I can see why you'd need to fiddle with it a little more to figure out which side it falls on. Keep us posted.

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Oh and pressing eject while the tray is empty makes the PS3 beep like it's very crossed at you.
If it isn't too much to ask, could you record the PS3's beep?

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I've no official name for it, no. I just use "PS" button for it myself. I'm not entirely sure when the red light activates. It seems to go red when you charge the controller, and when you connect to the console (that is, press the PS button to get a connection to the console).
So the PS button lights up when it's charging and when you're syncing with the console. Speaking of sync, do you have to do that every time the console starts up?

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I'm not sure what your idea of too light is, but it did seem uncomfortably light to me. I figured it's due to the wireless, since I'm so used to cables weighing controllers down. The new L2 and R2 buttons felt very flimsy to me and I kept wishing they and the analogue sticks were stiffer.
Yeah, this seems to be the consensus. That the triggers feel kind of loose and the sticks don't have enough resistance built in.

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It's very much like on the PSP. You can go back and forth and sometimes very randomly it might hold for a very small pause. It doesn't lag quite as much as on the PSP, but it was there (though rare and short).
Oh, good to hear. Were there any parts of the XMB that you had trouble with? Or maybe some areas that you could see problems arising (for example, audio files?)

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Oh and the controller has ridiculously long signal reach. We must have had like 15 meters between us and the console, besides a good three or four walls (from a different hallway) and a game stand and it still worked.
Good Lord, that's huge. This thing must be chewing through that battery to produce a signal that strong. Any battery life tests yet?

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I vaguely remember seeing a custom option in the Settings resolution. The pic in the blog entry was from the game resolution and that only listed that. It's possible that the custom option appears for games in a later firmware.
Ah, so there's 2 resolution settings you can change? 1 for the Dashboard and the other for the games themselves? Can you take a picture of the dashboard resolution settings menu (as well as the custom setting)?

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I said this in my (journal) entry, but we didn't get to try much because the firmware in the PS3 didn't really have anything. We got the PS3 online, but that was absolutely no use at all since there was no browser
Heh, hopefully that changes soon. Maybe Sony will put something up online for PS3s after the event tommorow? Have you seen the photos of the Japanese PS3s and their XMB? They say it's the final version to go into the PS3 and was wondering if you've heard anything about the firmware upgrade.

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We put in a Memory stick pro duo and though the console seemed to recognize it (a light next to the reader came on), there was no browser so we couldn't check content.
Browser? You need the browser to view memory card images?

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We're upgrading the firmware soon and playable code arrives on Monday I think so I'm definitely going to do another entry and more shots.
We'll definitely be looking forward to those, especially given what looks to be a dramatic difference between the build you've shown us and the small shots of the final version from Japan.

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That was me fooling around. If you hold the PS button for like five seconds, that screen pops up asking if you want to shut down the controller (I guess it disconnects (powers off) and thus charges faster) or shut down the console. After you shut the console down and press the PS button, the PS3 powers back up. I'm told the 360 has the same feature.

What's odd is that there is no properties screen for the controller. On the PSP you can check battery charge status and it'll show you the charge level in percentages, but this screen only shows whether the controller is like completely empty or half empty. Maybe there'll be a separate screen for each bluetooth device connected, who knows.
Ah, thanks for the confirmation about the button's function. Would including the charge percentage help or is it fine as is?


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I can try taking a pic of the big fan which you can see through the slightly see-through bottom. The cooling system works like on a laptop, in that it activates every now and then and even then it's really quiet. Well no, that's wrong. It does pump out (very) hot air continuously, but you hear a slightly louder (still quiet) whir every once in a while for a short while.
Wait... WHAT?! The fan turns off and on every so often and isn't on constantly? Wow, this definitely sounds like the PS3 has some kind of liquid cooling inside if the fan is being throttled by the console. May I ask your opinion on this: Do you think the low noise output is due to this or what's rumored to be noise dampening material inside the machine?

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I wanted to steal that TV so fucking bad, I swear. It's the most gorgeous thing I've seen in ages, especially when we switched to 1080i. And usually I hate how TVs like this look.
Amen, brother. I was at DigitalLife and just watching those sets play Resistance and BR movies at 1080p was enough to get my mind thinking of ways to snag one. Thanks for answering my questions!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 07:57 PM #247 of 3592
Originally Posted by TheXeno
Where should I start?

The whole linux deal sounds pretty cool, I wonder if that will be the main way to get homebrew stuff working on the ps3. I wonder how Sony will regulate this stuff, they will proably definitely want a say in what gos on in there consle. This theory just comes from Sonys previous actions.
It's been covered before, but Linux is getting installed on a completely different part of the console and being kept seperate from the PS3's OS by several software features as well as security features designed right into the architecture itself. If there are going to be any hackers, they're going to have to make mod chips as well as hack the console itself to get the two together.

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The only thing i'm worried about is the controller.

Hopefully these issues will be ironed out by launch... if Sony even sees them as problems.
Unfortunately, that's probably the least likely of things that could change from here to launch.

FELIPE NO

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 08:26 PM #248 of 3592
Originally Posted by JazzFlight
Other bad thing about the controllers: No user-replacable battery.

It's a permanent recharable battery. When the controller can't keep the charge as well anymore, you'll have to buy a new one. Apparently.
That they have to fucking fix tommorow at their event. There's literally no reason why the battery can't be user replaceable except to wring more money out of people with eventual replacement controller sales.

Here's the Yellow Dog FAQ:

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Will YDL run on all Sony PS3 models?

Yes.


Will YDL come pre-installed on PS3s at retail stores?

No. As an end-user of the PS3 you will install YDL on your PS3. This is a relatively simple, painless procedure.


Is PS3 support for Linux improved over that of the PS2?

Definately. Sony has designed the PS3 to run Linux. Your experience as an end-user will be optimal.


Where do I purchase YDL for the PS3?

Terra Soft's On-Line Store or via a YDL.net Enhanced account.


Can I download YDL for the PS3 for free?

As all versions of Yellow Dog Linux are distributed under the GPL, yes, once made available to the public mirrors.


Is source code included with YDL for the PS3?

Yes, on the second DVD, or from YDL.net accounts, and from the public mirrors.


Can I develop games for the PS3 GameOS from YDL?

No.


Will YDL support the Japanese version of the PS3?
Yes.


Does YDL support the Japanese language?

As with the previous 2 versions of Yellow Dog Linux, Terra Soft's Japanese partner Amulet will create a special version of YDL which defaults to the Japanese language. Furthermore, Amulet works to optimize this Japanese language selection beyond that of the standard Fedora Core defaults, optimizing the experience of Japanese speaking persons.


What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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Old Oct 18, 2006, 09:59 PM #249 of 3592
Yup, the PS3 and its controllers use Bluetooth Spec 2.0 ED or whatever it's called. Reduced battery consumption is one of the features of this version, among other things.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Oct 19, 2006, 10:24 AM #250 of 3592
Originally Posted by Qwarky
Well, seems as though they updated the firmware while I wasn't there, and this newer one (still oldish) doesn't have separate resolutions for game and dashboard.
Can you take some shots of the updated XMB when you get back? And answer a few of the questions in the post I left up at the top of the page? Strange that now there's only 1 resolution setting menu, does it still have custom?

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I did get to play the TGS code of Motorstorm and Genji 2 though, so I was quite pleased. The fan at the bottom is difficult to get a shot of cause the surface is so shiny. There's not a dark enough surface here to reflect from it to get a good enough shot.
Well, keep at it. I'm sure you'll get a good shot of it. I've heard the machine is hard to take good pictures of due to how shiny the console is.

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I'll update what I have when I get home from work, though. People can say what they say about giant enemy crabs, but Genji 2 was so lovely ._.
I was just watching PSM's Podcast video and it looked pretty good. Definitely a step up from what it once was, just like Motorstorm. Any impressions you have of the games, let us know, alright?

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Also, it seems as though my pictures have caused some stir on the internet =/ An english language blog called hinjang used a few of them wholesale (of course, linking to my blog first), much to my surprise. Are blog photos of the PS3 usually so crap? =/
You have no idea. Apparently the photos caused chaos over on GAF and that likely led to a ton of people putting them up in various forums on the internet.

And yes, usually photos of the PS3 are terrible quality, just look back a few pages in the thread.

Edit: Aww, looks like since the vast majority of gamers don't have HDTVs, the PS3 only comes with composite cables. If you have PS2 component cables, they're still compatible with the PS3, but this isn't welcome news to many:



There's nowhere I can't reach.

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