The Middle East spirals out of control!

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Lebanese civilians have been under the constant attack of the state of Israel for several days. The State of Israel, in disregard to international law and the Geneva Convention, is launching a maritime and air siege targeting the entire population of the country. Innocent civilians are being collectively punished in Lebanon by the state of Israel in deliberate acts of terrorism as described in Article 33 of the Geneva Convention.

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And whoever has no soul, feel free to ask me for pictures about the butcheries the israeli warplanes are doing everyday! It'll make a rock lean!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

UNTIL NOW, the stats are the following: among civilian deaths so far, and not soldiers on both sides:

600 dead civilian in lebanon
19 dead civilian in israel

now consider me stupid but if that isn't targeting civilians in lebanon, then this is not a war...THIS IS A BLOODY MASSACRE!!!!

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by TonyDaTigger

No one's responded to this question yet.

There's a whole lot of condemming Israel but no one has presented a REAL and workable solution.

The UN has issued an order of cease of fire, an IMMEDIATE one, but the US f888ked it up and put a vito on it then came back afterwards and ordered a cease of fire. SO why put a vito in the first place? This shows you that the US doesn't care at all about Lebanon.

Originally Posted by TonyDaTigger

Remember that the ball is IN Hezbollah's and Lebanon's camp.

Hezbollah: We've had enough of Lebanese citizens dying. We will return the two soldiers and stop firing into Israel.

It's not there fault the war had clached. They gave israel 3 days of no firing back and offered an exchange for the lebanese who are old prisonners of war in Israel. But no, it seems that destroying all the bridges in lebanon seems to be the solution to get the soldiers back. And so i give you a proof that they don't give a shit about their soldiers, the 2 soldiers issue was not brought up in the solution gondaliza rice brought to lebanon.

Originally Posted by TonyDaTigger

Lebanon: We've had enough of Lebanese citizens dying. Fuck Hezbollah. We have no choice but to shut them down. If necessary, we will ask for outside help in order to make it happen.

So you are issueing another lebanese civil war right? Because last time someone asked something similar, we were down into a 15 years civil war.

And let me break it to you: Hezbollah is not only a military organisation. They have ministers in the goverment, they have a big part of the lebanese parlement and have 1/4th of the lebanese people with them which is 1 million lebanese citizen with them. So how easy is your solution?

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Originally Posted by Onyx

No. When civilians die, those are war crimes. Especially when they are targeted in the first place. Make no mistake, this is a massacre.

When you tell people: you have until 8 pm to leave your cities, and then when they get in their cars and are ready to leave, you bomb their cars. That's collatoral damage right?

When you throw bombs and tear down homes under childrens heads and the paramedics have to search for the remains of the corpses all over the place that's collatoral damage right?

When they throw bombs that are FORBIDDEN internationally and that are making people die in the most horrifying ways and have corpses that are in a shape like never seen before that is collatoral damage right?

Like Onyx said, they ARE war crimes and they ARE massacres, and they ARE going to be suied for that once this war is done!!!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by ofirov

The UN has also issued an order to disarm Hezbollah and deploy the Lebanese army in southern Lebanon. But obviously, only calls for Israel to back off should be implemented. I mean, it’s not like the Lebanese government has to follow UN resolutions, they can just blame Hezbollah for binding their hands. Convenient, isn't it?

I don't need to remind you about the order 425 that was issued 20 years ago asking israel to go out of Lebanon and until 2000, this order was not done. So don't let me start talking about who isn't doing what the UN says.

Originally Posted by ofirov

I understand that you want the fire to cease on your side of the border. But the Israeli government’s first responsibility is for the safety of the Israeli citizens, not the Lebanese. If you want peace and security, you have to make sure that no one is attacking us from your side of the border. If not, then don’t blame Israel for trying to ensure its security by itself.

No body attacked you in the first place. the abduction was only for an exchange of the prisioners on your side. that was the plan but you started bombing us. you started this, and if it wasn't because of your goverment, this wouldn't have happened. this war could have been evited by doing a simple exchange like they always did in the past.

Originally Posted by ofirov

Oh, so it’s not the Hezbollah’s fault. Well, that’s definitely interesting. Is it not the Hezbollah’s fault that on the morning of the 12th of July 2006 they’ve unprovokedly started shelling Israeli military positions and villages as a diversion attack in order to abduct 2 Israeli soldiers. Enlighten me, how is it not their fault?

When did that happen? Hezbollah has shelled Israeli towns and cities since day one of the war. Not a single day has passed without Katyushas being fired into Israeli territory. They did ask for a cease fire, but that's just impudent of them. If they do want to give something, though, I’d start with the 2 soldiers.[/QUOTE]

WRONG! Hezbollah abducted the two soldiers and didn't fire anything. It was Israel who declared the war while Hezbollah had no intention but a simple exchange. They gave israel 3 days of destroying lebanon, and after these 3 days they declared war back. So the shelling started from your side and not from ours.

Originally Posted by ofirov

The bombardment of bridges has some very strategic value, as was stated before. As for the 2 soldiers, the no negotiations policy is not just for their sake, it’s for the sake of every Israeli soldier and citizen that might be the subject of a similar abduction in the future. If the Hezbollah will gain nothing from abducting Israelis, then it won’t be so eager to abduct Israelis in the future.

Oh so destroying every single bridge in Lebanon the first day where war was declared from your side only is strategic. So tell me now, was it not strategic that this war is so well organised, and it gets me wondering, wasn't it meant to happen because as i see it, your minister said 3 monthes ago that you have set 300 targets in Lebanon and waiting for the right time to get them. And abducting the soldiers was for one reason: get our prisonners back. It was Israel who declared war, not us, so the war is your fault.

Originally Posted by ofirov

It’s your choice. But if you do nothing, don’t act all surprised when someone else decides to.

Ignoring the fact that the your statement just re-affirmed my argument that the Lebanese government is very much responsible for the situation. The Lebanese government had 6 years to work a solution to the threat that Hezbollah poses to the stability of the region in whatever means they would have chosen to. They chose to do nothing, so they have only themselves to blame.[/QUOTE]

Just so you know, the goverment has said that Hezbollah is the only thing that is able to defend lebanon from israel since the US forbids the lebanese army from having tanks, war planes, rockets...I mean our army is forbiden to be a real army while Israel has every right to use anything the US gives her. How fair is that? So don't expect Lebanon to disarm the only thing that is defending him.

Originally Posted by ofirov

Israel is doing more than enough to avoid casualties on the Lebanese side. One might think that it’s the Hezbollah’s job to defend the Lebanese citizens, and not Israels’ (since they are a part of the government). Yet it seems that you’re one step short of praising the Hezbollah’s actions. As though it’s not Hezbollah’s own fault that Lebanese citizens are getting hurt. It’s Hezbollah which kills Lebanese by engaging a war against Israel, not Israel. If we wanted to kill citizens, we wouldn’t have warned them to leave in the first place. We could have just started bombarding with no warning.

So more then enough for you is asking people to leave and then targeting them while leaving. It's targeting civilian houses where children and women are hiding and killing them all. That is avoiding casualty. If that is avoiding casualty, congratulation!!! And just so you know, you ARE targeting civilians without warning them.

Originally Posted by ofirov

Take Bint Jbeil for example. It would have been much more “cost effective” to level the entire town from the air before sending in the ground troops (and by that, saving Israeli soldiers’ lives). But IDF has decided against it, knowing that in many of the buildings in the town, Hezbollah terrorists were waiting for the Israeli forces.

The thing is that you did bomb 75% of the town and bring it down. And just so you know, since you are knowing a lot today, no Hezbollah fighter is hiding in any building, they have said that.

Originally Posted by ofirov

It sure is easy enough to criticize. But when it comes to finding alternative solutions, silence befalls all.

So stop war. Have a ceasefire. Exchange the soldiers for the prisonners. That was a choice from day one. You declared an IMMEDIATE war on us, so who isn't finding the solution?

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A question, if there were rockets in the building, shoudln't it do a BIG HELL OF A GREAT BLAST????? it only crumbled like any other buliding and no rockets were found when taking out the 37 dead children and 25 other males and females and when the investigations were carried. So your video is as good as any cinematic done video!!!

And the soldiers WERE in Lebanon. Just because the CNN says so and everyone else says otherwise, it doesn't mean the CNN is the rightful news. THey were in our territories and we had every right to do what we did. And about the shelling from day one, that's wrong info.

And a workable solution is not give israel what they want either!!! Dream on about that too!

The Hezbollah always had soldiers captured and exchanged them for prisonners, and Israel always did. So don't tell me that the exchange was impossible because they used to do it so the war is Israel's fault, they announced it... As easy as that!!!!

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