Firearms

I noticed on your poll you didn't have an option for no guns. I'm and american and I have NO desire to own or be around guns at all. I've shot hand guns, and even a shotgun at my cousins house and I wasn't scared or nervous around them, but there was just never any fascination with them. Maybe it was my semi-suburbia/semi-big city upbringing, but there doesn't seem to be any point to own a gun. I'm not into hunting or gang banging so I don't think I would ever be in the situation at my own house where a gun would ever be needed. Infact I tend to stay away from people that have overwhelming interest in weapons, they tend to be a little odd in my book.

Call me crazy but it seems like they are just more trouble than their worth...

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

I'm not crazy about guns, but you'd have to be insane not to own one these days. Too many nut jobs out there who will break into your house while you're in it - nevermind waiting until you leave for work like the old-fashioned, respectable robbers used to do back in the day - and kill your ass for a DVD player and fifty bucks.

Here's what we have. I'm not sure what it is, but it's a Smith & Wesson something. It has a clip and the hammer is the kind where you pull back on the barrel until you hear the bullet click into place.



I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use it if I needed to, and I'm really glad we have it.

What makes you think that same crazy ass robber wouldn't use your own gun on you? Or just shoot you before you had the chance to get to your gun? I'm just guessing that you don't walk around your house with your pistol loaded and in your back pocket.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Zio

Because I'd shoot before asking questions and all I would have to say is this, "I was afraid for the life of me and my family." That way, even if he's unarmed, I was still defending my life and the life of my family. So the robber would loose a knee cap in hte process. I doubt he'd rob anther house again.

So you are the guy that walks around his house/family with a loaded gun in his back pocket and shoots anything that moves. People like you and stereotypical hicks are why people from other countries hate the US. Good job.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Gumby

Don’t you ever wonder why people don’t rob homes in Texas?

I'm guessing it's because people who lives in Texas are just as crazy as you are and they think they NEED a gun to be safe/cool/whatever. You act like just because of the fact that you have a gun means you wont get shot. You are your own reason on why people can't be trusted it's ridiculous.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Zio

Um, if you come in, busting down my door and I happen to defend my family or I. Then how am I sterotypical hick?

I am rather curious why you jump the gun(no pun intended) on that if someone threatens my household that I have no right to defend myself?

And as well, he can't sue me for injuries when he was TRESSPASSING on my land and did damages to my household by breaking and entering.

Did you forget that you said you said, "Because I'd shoot before asking questions..."? The whole 'shoot first, ask later' mentality is VERY stereotypical hick. Also, when did I say anything about breaking and entering, doing any damage to your property, or sueing anyone for any injuries?

Why do you jump to such conclusions as just because someone other than family is in your house they are threatening you or anyone in your family in any way?

EDIT - Please don't forget that my original point I was tyring to make in this thread was 'what makes you think that having a gun in the house will make you any safer', not that you can't get away with shooting someone in your own house (as if that is a good thing).

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Zio

Put it this way, if you walk into a Lion's den that is full of new born lions. Rather you are a threat or not, that Lion will kill you in defense.

My point exactly, guns are a very primal way to deal with things. If you feel it 'necessary' to have one, thats fine with me. But I don't think that is the case in many (I'd say most) parts of the country.

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Gee, I guess if I knock down a door and began to ravage through things that aren't mine, I would assume that the people inside would be terrified to the point that thier life MIGHT be endanger.

Do you really think that people that break into houses do it just to kill someone? As long as you/a loved one haven't done anything to provoke someone to that state (for example: shoot someone they loved), don't you think the intruder would just take what they want and leave with out harming anyone if it wasn't needed? Maybe I'm just naive in thinking people don't want to harm others unprovoked.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

No doubt that it would not be a fun situation to be in and it may even be terrifying to see someone rumage through your belongings while you were there, but that doesnt mean you are going to die or get hurt or need to shoot the person (even if you could do it and get away with it because of 'self defence').

Double Post:
Gumby, when did I say anything about guns not being safe? When used properly they are perfectly safe. I just don't think they are needed as much as you think.

EDIT - Just a question, but does being able to shoot someone and calling people cowards on the internet make you a man?

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

A person who breaks into your home while you're there isn't after your stuff. If that's what he was after, he'd scope out your house and wait until you left, then break in.

I think that any rational person can safely assume that if a person invades your home while you're obviously at home, they're there to do harm to the people inside, not to steal your DVD player.

People with drug addictions will do pretty much anything to get money/drugs, rational or often time not. Also, how do YOU know what a person that is just after your stuff would do? Have you done his before?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

Oh shit. Busted. Yes, I'm a raging serial rapist.


Also...
Which is precisely why we have a gun in our home.

Last I checked you can't sell people or bodies at the pawn shop, why would a drug addict want to kill someone?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

You said it yourself - "People with drug addictions will do pretty much anything to get money/drugs, rational or often time not."

How can you be sure that a person strung out on drugs is going to have the mental capacity to know when they've gone too far? I highly doubt that a person flying on PCP is going to bust in my door and then politely say, "Excuse me, ma'am. Would you be so kind as to direct me to your valuables? I'll just relieve you of a few and then I'll be out of your hair." Also, I have children to protect, and as I said before, I live out in the middle of the woods by myself (i.e. no husband at home). I'm not about to trust anything to chance.

Ah, kids these days and their ideals. You're cracking me up, keener. Your arguments have been proven wrong time after time in this thread, yet you won't give up.

Tell ya what...how about YOU forego having a gun in YOUR house and those of us who wish to take advantage of our consitutional rights can do so, hm?

HAHAHA how many people have you ever seen out in the middle of the woods high on PCP? If that number is above 0 I'm going to be shocked. Also, why would someone break into your home if they were already high on a drug? I think it would be when they've come down and are in a more sober state is when they would realized they have no money and that they 'need' to steal. If some guy high on some drug did break down your door and makes you think he wouldn't just shoot you and your kids before you even had a chance to get your gun. Being the loving mom that I'm sure you are, it's doubtful that you walk around with your loaded gun with you 24/7. amirite?

What arguments have I made that have been proven wrong in this thread? The fact that you people live in areas where you THINK you need a gun to protect yourself, is your choice, and I've even said having a gun is fine. Like I said before, I just don't think they are as necessary as you think.


EDIT - Here's a question for all you people that seem to think guns are needed for the protection of you and your family. How many of you have used your gun in self defense on your own property?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by David4516

You're probably right. Most people will never actually NEED a gun. But having one is still a good idea. Why? Take car insuracne for example... you probably won't wreck your car, but you have insurance anyway. You might go your whole life without ever needing a gun or insurance, but that doesn't mean having them is a bad idea... It's about being prepared to deal with a bad situation. It's better to not need it and have it, than to not have it and need it...

Here in the lovely state of Washington it is illegal to drive without car insurance, that's why I have it. Having a gun is fine, I personally never said it was a bad idea, but I don't want one. And until it's state law to get one I see no reason for me to have one.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by tweeter

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I got an answer for this one: my father. When I was 6 months old.

Damn son, I just keep shootin ftw left and right. Shit son, I'm not like Mike, I AM Mike.

Care to elaborate either of these two statements, because your link means nothing to me, and I'd like to here about this situation in which your dad use his gun in self defence by a guy who was trying to steal his belongings.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I like how Alice is so quick to call me out, but has yet to make any retort...

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by AliceNWondrland

It's because you're being retarded, keener. You make statements as if you know the demographics and crime rates on every area of the country, which you clearly do not. I'm just tired of arguing with you, and that's the plain and simple of it.

I told you about the three murders that have occurred in my neighborhood, yet you still act like you aren't convinced that there's a need for a gun. Also, you say things like, "What if someone takes that gun and uses it on you?" which is fucking ridiculous because they'd be dead as soon as they started toward me.

I'm not some crazed killer, but I know how to use a gun and I have absolutely no problem using it if I feel threatened in my own home. Whatever you say won't change my mind. This is America, punkin. I have the right to bear arms and I'm going to take advantage of it.

I'm tired of arguing with you. Your points are weak, and I'm bored.

That's fine that your done, I will be to, but rereading your posts you said nothing about 3 murders in your neighborhood in any other post than the one I'm quoting. And please don't take that mom 'tone of voice' with me, just because you protected your kids from a stick that brushed up against your house. You DO have the right to bear arms but I also have the right to find you points just as weak as mine.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?