[:plant:] E3 2013: "Xbox, turn on PS4 so I can actually play games"

Originally Posted by Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss

It's not a great sign when the only game I'm vaguely looking forward to this year is GTA.

Dat AAA or nothin' business model.

On the other side of the same shithouse coin, we have SE making Final Fantasy Tactics Social games.

Truly the worst gen leading into an even worse gen.

And the quadruple will have the same measures as the Xbone, no doubt. Only it won't be "mandatory".

I somehow imagine a lot of publishers will use the systems and tools available to them, though.

That one time transfer is some bulllllllllllshit too. Holy fucking christ.

At least the PS4 plays PS2* games!

PS2 as in Planetside 2.

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The region dropping has GOT to be because the Navy Times called them out on it. I see no other fucking reason for it.

It's so good it actually brings the start of a sparkle to my otherwise emotionless, dead eyes.

Mmm.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Final Fantasy Phoneteen

If by "multiple reliable sources," you mean "one guy on Pastebin claiming to be a disgruntled engineer." I don't buy it. Besides the goddamn absurdity of this source, why would this guy who's mad about us pissing away the future let slip that Family Sharing is that fucking weak?

EDIT: Just did a bit of digging. Aaron Greenberg and Marc Whitten (two high-level Xbox executives at Microsoft) have said on Twitter that the Pastebin writer is full of shit. Could be lying. I get the feeling they probably aren't though.

::trust Microsoft mouthpiece on the issue::

The Pastebin was confirmed correct by several reliable GAF sources that have been 100 percent correct in the past; including one who's nailed every single reveal this year weeks early as a matter of course. Pastebins themselves are of course not a reliable source of info, but if you're taking the company line on it you're being just as ridiculous.

There's also this: Which is a good reading between the lines that shows this was probably already announced, no one noticed it though: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...6&postcount=48

Does anyone REALLY THINK they would essentially allow 6 and 7 dollar XBOne games out the door for life? After all these other controls? Are you stupid?

Originally Posted by Zip

I know you like to play this internet tough guy, asshole, but what I said to you in the chat is exactly what Pachter is saying in the video. My example was with Forza and e.g. groups like GFF just sendin games back and forth, that's why a drm was needed. In that way it's a good business decision to keep sales going. On the used game issue (which has nothing to do with this) I still stand by that if used games were removed -certain- sales would go up since people would have no other choice to buy games new, there is a study that wiredgamer (and others) did that supported that and hinted that it could lead to lower game prices (which I dont agree 100% with).
Those were business decision, I never said it's a good marketing decision. I even told you in the same discussion that branding wise it's probably bad.
Business and marketing decisions are two different things.
Now take your transformers chain and stop trolling.

You should pay more attention to whom you're addressing, and generally stop being a shitweasel. Your example was a manufactured problem in an attempt to justify outdated business practices. You claimed multiple points of proof and provided none of them. You defended the business decision because an authority figure made it, and you are now sticking by that VERY SAME definition when the authority figure has turned around and said "welp that was a bad idea". You also cited several examples of scenarios based entirely on hypotheticals and personal anecdotes.

Citing Pachter, someone notorious for being as wrong as he is right, is probably not the best move either. The man's a talking head personality and plays up opinions for clicks. It's amazing how people don't realize this in twenty fucking thirteen.

So eat a dick.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.