[Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl Tournament Discussion

I'll make an announcement in VG root for this.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I am honestly amused at how much content one must strip away from a game to make it "fair" for all users.

You're right though, how dare people use a stage's layout to their advantage! How dare you try to be strategic about your character's placements?

This annoys me in first person shooters as well. All stages should be perfect circles so there are no corners to hide in and everyone's on a perfectly level playing field with the best guns. Fuck, y'know, coming up with counters.

None of you guys are good enough to be tourney level players, so it's not like you'll all be untouchable if you use a stage layout to your advantage. It's not like Brawl wasn't designed from the standpoint of leveling the playing field for JUST THIS PURPOSE and all that, I forgot.

What do I know though? I'm not participating in this. Kinda glad I don't have the time with school, now, though.

Good lord why am I starting this argument. It's not like this party game is a true fighter. I just hope that whatever you guys end up deciding on is fun for everyone involved and doesn't end up with anyone annoyed or exclusded or not signing up or anything. I am kinda surprised that we're no better than those we've hated on for so long though. Le sigh.

I am, at least, appreciative of the discussion going on instead of having one person decide all the rules and some people being sadface with it. Bravo for that, Chaotic.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Again, offering an outside perspective here, but fuck, immp, you rule. That is an AWESOME idea, and while a good deal of work, it could potentially be far more interesting.

(This is why I <3 you guys. Give it a little time and you guys shit out Gold. AWESOME.)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Actually, it'd probably be best if someone made a good summarizing post, as I've been trying to follow it and I was completely wrong about what was going down too.

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You're confusing the meaning of tournament setting here. This is a friendly competition between GFFers on a non-Smash focused, general purpose video game board. This isn't, as has been said ad-infinitum before, Smashboards or any other (and I use the term jokingly) "serious" Smash competitive forum. I would not say this is one and the same.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Do you guys want me to implement a poll about this? It might be easier to track what the general consensus is, then.

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I can only do one poll per thread at a time, but I'll make it a multi option poll. Pick one option PER TOPIC, a'ight?

If someone fucks up, we'll have to not account for them in the poll.

FELIPE NO

Hold on, I'm playing around with this. I don't have a direct ability to add polls to existing threads. I am going to play around with my merge fuctions.

Sorry if I blow something up while I'm doing this. >_>

I like how I can't add a poll. Fuck.

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I'm just going to cross post this in here, as I posted it in Mo0's journal.

I'm extremely dismayed that we are 3 days and a A HUNDRED AND TWENTY POSTS into the damn thread and there's shit all to show for it.

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I'm just more confused as to why Chaotic and Slash feel the need to overcomplicate this, when it's obviously clear that all GFFers care about is getting together and playing a few semi-organized games.

This whole thing is being overthought and all it will end in is it backfiring, as everyone gets bored and fucks off. One thing our boys don't realize is that this ISN'T a place where interest stays high in games for extended periods of time and that over complicating things is just going to scare off the userbase.

Discussing the same crap ad-infinitum even when people go into the thread and state "WE DON'T GIVE A SHIT, GET ON WITH IT ALREADY". and then not heeding that advice is even worse, considering the thread was made to get discussion going.

Which, potentially is the worst part. When a structure was proposed that was taken directly from a tourneyfag site, and then that eventually led to a discussion thread...well, I thought that thread would contain discussion instead of "Smashwiki says we should do this", and then people going "who cares", followed by "SmashBoards says I should do this", and then people saying "who cares" again.

This is just cyclical and will never get off the damn ground like this when the two people organizing it try to micromanage too much and not actually, y'know, acknowledge the point of the discussion thread.

They should be a couple of games INTO the damn thing already. Why is it so difficult to just PLAY the damn thing? It's obvious no one gives a fuck about this other crap. They're willing to go by it just to shut the thread up and get things going.

On a related note, speaking of shutting people up, that Smash thread is asking for it. Retarded spammy, very little actually talking going on. One liners, pointless shit, etc.

Look, I'm really appreciative of the effort you're going to. It's community minded, you guys mean well, and I don't want to discourage organized play here, but this is...not working.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Jeez, fine.

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Perfect. See? This is the sort of grabbing things by the balls that I was hoping for. Seems to be a good general consensus seeing as how people have responded, and it's simple.

Now all you guys need are some matches.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

One doesn't close threads...



...simply because they can't stand the heat.



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This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Saka's post was removed because I answered his question in a PM. It should be fairly obvious why this was reopened. No one here has flamed you directly (in this thread, journals are a different matter I have no control over.) Threads don't get closed because you don't want to end an argument with the last word. Just fucking ignore those people, Christ.

You're pissing a shit over stuff that's not flaming, but (at least in the case of me and Rotor), some honest criticism. It's not either of our faults that you can't take it and end up throwing a hissy fit here, son.

Personally, I was just trying to help. I saw that you WERE overcomplicating things, and all I wanted to do was help by suggesting you get this off the ground now, as opposed to drowning it in red tape and BS. I tried to assist you with an announcement. I tried (but failed due to permission sets) to add a poll for you. I'm not the bad guy here.

You have done nothing but interpret both mine and Rotor's comments incorrectly, and thrown a god damn shitfit in the process. I don't honestly give a fuck what rule set you've implemented. I'm not playing with you guys. So why would I? My point has obviously been completely missed.

While I speak for no one else, what I'm trying to do in this thread is help it along and to assist you. You clearly don't want any help, since you've had so much experience doing this before with thousands upon thousands of people, or something. So I retract what I said earlier. Go to fucking town.

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