[Multiplatform] Tales of Vesperia announced, next main Tales

Originally Posted by Zeta26

Besides, the Wii already has Tales of Symphonia: Knights of Ratatosk. So it definitely won't be a possibility. Which's set to release later this year.



Don't you mean to agree to disagree? Because from your standpoint, you seem to flatout hate the Wii for all what it's worth. Though, I'd have to agree with you ^^;. Because Nintendo will never have games like FFXIII, Versus XIII, The Last Remnant and those other upcoming HD games that're on the PS3 or 360. For sacrificing these HD graphics. They [Nintendo] just want "flowery"-esque gameplay on the Wii.

Games that no hardcore gamer would even bother playing.

Early post of the year candidate. I must quote and save it, or something. This is quite possibly the most hilarious bullshit I've read this month.

Bravo sir, your stunning idiocy knows no bounds. It seriously leaves me in awe. Witnessing it actually destroys people's bodies and souls. Ever see Raiders of the Lost Ark?



Exactly.

Can we go back to discussing how gay waggle is or something? We haven't had a discussion of that break out in a completely unrelated thread for quite some time now. It'll be fun! For old time's sake, come on.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yup, it certainly does SUCK that it's coming to the 360. No talk of exclusivity at all (highly, HIGHLY unlikely after all. I mean, jeez, just look at EVERY FUCKING NAMCO GAME ON THE PLATFORM). But yeah, sure does suck those mad balls that those 360 players are getting the game.

Give me a fucking break. Use some common sense. Ridge Racer, Eternal Sonata, countless others. Fuck, you'll end up getting additional costumes or something out of it if you wait for it on your preferred platform anyway. Hell, you'll even get to find out if it sucks.

I love this shit. Happens for every damn Namco game. "OH GOD ACE COMBAT", etc. Have we learned NOTHING? Just y'know, curious and all.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I guess the plethora of overpriced Ace Combat content must be selling better than I thought. I've bought maybe 6 of the 35 or something DLC items for it, so I'm no better, but damn. What a joke.

If this continues, Namco will be worse than EA for marketplace price fixing in no time flat.

As for it being the sole reason for the 360 platform choice? That'd have to be a LOT of increased revenue.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well, wether or not new content is actually inserted or not was not my point. The price to value ratio for these things is incredibly low, regardless. It seems to me like this is just an extension of the same business model. Whatever trivialities you're getting in return for your couple of bucks is overpriced, regardless. It's the high prices for this content that's annoying me more.

Let's face it, people will buy it regardless if it's new content or on the disc, so I care much more about actually having realistic prices for the value you get back from these purchases. In AC, the skins should be waaaaaay cheaper, and the missions should not be 15 bucks for the whole lot. It's this price fixing which leads to worse and worse content pricing on the marketplace, which worries me. In the future, just how much is Namco and other companies gonna start charging for content with some actual meat to it?

On a side note, one of the recently released missions for AC6 is roughly an MB in size. Considering the others are 5 to 15, this might imply that it too is a simple unlock of included disc content, although I can't be certain. It could just recycle a lot of in game assets. It is suspicious, at least.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

IGN: Xbox 360 RPG Press Conference Live Blog

8/7/08 for Japan. "Sometime in August" for North America.








2009 for Europe. Of course.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Tokubetsu

EDIT #1: Oh shit the demo is in english??!? wtf.

Often, the same demo code goes up on both marketplaces, and has the assets for both regions. It just detects your region from your console and displays accordingly. This happens a lot, actually.

Which always makes me wonder why dual langauge demos almost never go up on both marketplaces simultaneously, but 'eh.

Game's pretty fun so far. Like GB said, similar to Abyss, but looks like we trade the aggrivating Luke for another annoying character. Oh well, wouldn't be a Tales game without one.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

So, if anyone else is having trouble ordering the LE from their local gamestop or EB, it's been found out why.

Most Tales of games would show up as, well, "Tales of XYZ" on the EB database when the employee is doing a search. The regular version of Vesperia shows up like this.

However, the LE is retarded and appears in the system as "Vesperia CE", so your employee is going to have to search for just "Vesperia", not "Tales of". If you went in there asking and the employee couldn't find shit before, this is why.

FELIPE NO

10 extra funbux, and you get a CD and a metal case. The CD is a Tales compilation music CD, with 14 songs from Tales of Vesperia, two from Tales of Phantasia, two from Tales of Destiny, four from Tales of Symphonia and three from Tales of the Abyss.

Not a whole lot, but the case is far nicer looking than the ugly shit that is the regular edition.



What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Or...not so easy, maybe.

Looks like the SKU has been pulled from GS stores (at least in the States, more on that in a second), and that it's gone to online only, period. People with preorders have reported being called and told their order has been cancelled, and that an interenal GS memo has circulated talking about it.

Rumoured to also be limited to an extreme degree. How extreme, I'm not certain, but I was told the scale might be "hundreds". Not certain if I buy that or not. Seems very un-Namco like. I AM SKEPTICAL.

That said, Canadian EBs STILL HAVE IT in their system. I phoned all of 4 minutes ago and confirmed that it's still in the system under "Vesperia CE", the item number and SKU are still in the system, and that Canadian EBs have recieved no such internal memo. As far as I can tell, we're still getting it in store.

As strange as that all sounds, it's not unprecedented. A similar event happened with the North American release of Electroplankton on the DS. It was online only in the US, but came into stores directly up here. I'm hoping for a repeat scenario here.

I'm also hoping that it doesn't get cancelled at the last fucking second and I'm left looking on eBay for something that might be instantly hard to find. It's a crapshoot though at the moment, NB's doing a horrible job of being forthcoming with info here. The fact that they didn't announce this thing until there was less than a month left until the game's release only goes to illustrate my point. Let alone this other bullshit of who can sell it and how.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by SouthJag

I have no idea what you're talking about. As soon as I saw your post about the search, I tried it and nothing existed. Ever. I'm not really sure US GameStop stores have ever had it as an in-store thing. At the very least, no "internal memo" has circulated to stores.

Everything I'm operating on is second hand information (as far as the US preorders go), but Daravon's not usually incorrect. He relayed this bit about an internal memo/email/whatever you want to call it to me via email, apparently after asking someone at his local place, who told him about it. I DO know people HAD put down preorders for the thing, and it was under "Vesperia CE".

Here's my receipt.



Apparently, this was the same item under the same title in the US. But now it's totally been pulled from the system.

There's other GS employees on other forums (I assume Daravon's talking about GAF in this case), that have said the same thing as what I've relayed in the above post.

His quote follows.

Originally Posted by Daravon

No one is clear if Canada is getting it or not in-store, but the email did specifically state it's website only in the US. This has been confirmed by multiple GS employees, and it's been confirmed that sku has been pulled out of the system completely. Some dudes on gamefaqs FWIW said their store called them and told them they'd have to cancel their CE preorders.

I'm not certain if there was an email or not. Perhaps not sent out to every store? Perhaps only to ones with preorders of the thing in the system? I don't fucking know, I'm just guessing now. Perhaps you're both right, fuck if I know.

There is overwhelming evidence that people did have in store preorders at some point, so I'm not sure what's going on. All I know is Canada DOES have it in the system still, and it's looking online only for the US at this moment.

Information is so hazy, it's getting ridiculous. Everyone's saying something different.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Yes, I know what position you hold. You talk about it a lot.

GS has never been up here, so it's probably been kept this way for name recognition. The system was probably not revamped, since why bother if you're not really changing the name or merging with the American system? EB Canada is a somewhat seperate corporate entity.

The small time frame is apparently quite possible. This could be the Subsistence LE all over again with multiple fuck ups.

I'm just echoing what I've heard, as it's not just you who's a GS employee and reporting back on this. I've been reading other reports on other forums (CAG/GAF/etc) and it seems like it at least.

NeoGAF - View Single Post - The Official Tales of Vesperia Thread

As just one example. (God, I hate using NeoGAF as a source but 'eh.)

I can't find receipt images for anything but Canadian preorders, but there are plenty of posts of people saying "I managed to preorder it" on various forums like the TalesBrigade. Following guy's location is listed in the US, so.

Originally Posted by SirthOsiris

Sauce

The guy I talked to at Gamestop pre-ordered it himself, so it was on the database when I got there for mine. Hopefully they'll know which one I pre-ordered when I go on the fateful day.

I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but what I've posted is what's been reported as well. It very well could have existed in the system for only a few hours. The amount of "It's not in my local place's system" posts outnumber these other ones by about a bajillion to one.

Regardless, the point is that the ball has been dropped pretty hard, and confusion on the issue is pretty much rampant. I don't see why you're harping on the "nuh-uh, no memo 'cause I didn't get one" thing.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

As discussed a few pages ago, Vesperia DLC has now been dropped in Jappo land that allows you to BUY LEVEL UPS. Also in game money. Of course it will come here too, so.

Here's what you can buy!

Quote:

LV Up +10 (1) 300 Microsoft Points
LV Up +5 (1) 200 Microsoft Points
300,000 Gald (1) 300 Microsoft Points
Skill sets 80 Microsoft Points
HP Recovery Cuisine Recipe Set 100 Microsoft Points

Sauce

Quite frankly, this is god damn disgusting. Worse than the AC6 shit where you're paying 5 bucks PER MISSION for a difficulty increase, or dropping 10 for a pink airplane with a loli on it. That shit is just useless and overpriced extra shit...this is letting you bypass the point of the game for extra scratch.

Namco is really fucking pushing it here, my GOD.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

No, grade still exists. I imagine it's used for much the same purposes as it has been in the past.

I'm not certain what it's NOT worse than. unlocking content already on the disc and putting up horribly useless content for stupid-high prices is one thing, but actively charging for save file manipulation here is another. What do you think they have done that's worse?

I mean, shit. EA charged for cheats too, but it wasn't like "GIVE GOLFER BETTER STATS". Egad.

I was speaking idiomatically.

My complaint is more about the precedent set and price points, and what it means for future content.

The price here is ridiculous, considering what you're getting. The value for your buck is insane, and this is the same problem I've had with Ace Combat. It's McDonalds charging you 80 bucks for an order of a small fries.

While I can't stop idiots from buying things, it makes me wonder just how much they're gonna charge for real, actual content, provided they ever bother to release any. Probably not. Why put effort into it when your bullshit scheme works so well?

It's just an ugly precedent and a horrible business model, and it's insulting to own games made by these folks when this sort of shit goes down. Normally I'm not so easy to hate on this sort of thing, but it's just insulting to even see it offered, let alone at that price point.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Sure. I'd be more willing to pay for that, yeah. Additional quest lines and/or whatever have been offered for relatively decent price points for a number of RPGs now, like LO and BD. Optional content not already on the disc, that only adds to the final experience if you like the game. Something a bit more tangible than a cheat or a mode that's essentially just a damage multiplier.

FELIPE NO

That's exactly my point, though. If it's 4 bucks for cheats, 20 bucks for a dungeon seems like a price you'd expect by comparison.

How ya doing, buddy?

I don't think anyone was talking about not buying the game. I think we're all just various forms of insulted by even having the option, or worried about the precedent, or one of a number of other concerns.

The DLC says nothing really about the actual game's quality, only the state of market. That's what we're all annoyed at more than anything.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Tritoch

Well, Cetra overreacted and said he'd stop buying games from Namco-Bandai altogether

That would involve mentally grouping Cetra as "people" and not "retarded troll", so.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

It was still in the Canadian system as of yesterday afternoon, so I'm assuming we're getting it in store still.

The online thing on EB has said backordered for a while, but don't they hand out stuff like that first come first served? I'm assuming if you paid for it, they had enough stock to cover that, eh?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Kostaki

Well yes, I would assume that. But you did say that it was shipping in extremely limited quantities, and it says Backordered on my invoice/order page in My Account. It's the only reason I'm getting a little on edge about it.

Yeah, the limited quantities thing was something I didn't quite buy when I heard it at first, but if it's sold out already on EB then it might actually be limited. I guess we'll find out soon enough. Still Pre-orderable on Amazon, if that means anything.

Since the GS website rapes on shipping to Canada, I've never had to deal with them having a backordered status on an order page of mine. I really hope you don't get fucked over.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Indeed. Only regular editions got here today, not the CEs. While this has happened before in more than a few cases (Ace Combat, another Namco game, has had both joystick versions for 5 and 6 delayed for a day to a week up here after the regular edition came out), I'm still somewhat concerned. I hope it just wasn't updated in the system that we aren't getting it, as I was so sure we would be. CONFUSION MAXIMUM.

I was speaking idiomatically.

It was online only in the states, ramoth. You'd have had to get it from their website.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Uh, they aren't? You use them, they add a handful of skills to your characters you'd otherwise have to learn the hard way. Poor wording on Namco's part, though.

Anyway, go to your items and scroll all the way to the right. There's an Xbox Live section there. The downloadable stuff appears as items you have to use there to get the benefits.

It's a free version of the more expensive cheats on the japanese marketplace, which work the same way. I hope no one uses these just 'cause they're free.

FELIPE NO

Keep in mind there's a title (and therefore, achievement and completionism thing) for doing all the secret missions in ONE PLAYTHROUGH, so getting all of them over the course of two ain't gonna cut it.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Achievements numbered 27 through 49 inclusive are all secret mission achievements, so there's 23 of 'em. 50 is the 0 point VESPERIA MASTER achievement.

How ya doing, buddy?