[Multiplatform] Grand Theft Auto IV. Not as much fun as shooting real Albanians

I'm with russ. This'll be great from a multiplayer standpoint. Multi turned a good sandboxer like Crackdown into a great one, and if an already well done GTA game has multi, it could make it absolutely HILARIOUS. I picture people rocketting each other in the middle of a mission for no other reason than pure hilarity. I just hope the multi is drop-in/drop-out, and doesn't require someone to reset the damn game room for someone to join ala RTW's implementation in Crackdown. That was aggrivating.

As for the hilarious "360 looks worse than PS3" debate, they're quite close to each other right now. Especially in regards to cross platform games. I'm sure that'll change eventually though, but I thought most people knew this by this point.

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While this certainly sucks for people who were looking forward to the game, and perhaps for people will only one console, I personally breath a sigh of relief. The next 4 months are enough wallet rape as it is.

That said, I was looking forward to fucking around, I played Crackdown again the other day and it did nothing but whet my appetite for Sandboxers all over again.

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Well, you'd have to be extremely stupid to fucking mount it. It's a joke plate. It goes on your wall, or in some other similar display area, not on your damn car. DSid the feds really ahve to step in to stop people from doing that? Yeesh.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

If there isn't at least a free-roam of some kind for multi, I'll eat my hat. Co-op would be swanky, but free-roam is kind of a given, considering the success of similar modes in other sandboxers. Maybe with a reduced player count, but still.

I could have sworn I heard news of a couple other modes elsewhere, but I guess I was wrong, as I can't find the link. Nuts.

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I meant more of an organized, persistent free roam than any quasi-lobby, potentially instanced, pre-game shenanigans.

I was speaking idiomatically.

They don't ban people from Live based on games played, since they wouldn't punish an end user for a store or other retailer breaking street, or one of a few other legitimate reasons to have the game on the list.

They can ban for the actual piracy though, so make sure they don't catch THAT.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Uhhh, no.

It might appear that way if a majority of the people playing Halo early were pirates though.

Also the "hide games played" only hides from other end users, it's not like you can hide that information from the Live back end.

FELIPE NO

Haven't we determined that review scores are already horseshit? It's not like people here really give all that much a shit. Do you remember what happened when the rational folks who posted here responded to the call to boycot shit because of Kain and Lynch? Come the fuck on, Deni. Give us a break.

But your ignorance is amusing. For a self proclaimed RPG fan, you should be well aware that repetitive tasks are not necessarily boring. Many, MANY games would be easily dismissed if this were the case. From a variety of genres. Hell, many that you LOVE can be shit on for this reason. But I like Harvest Moon and Ikaruga, what do I know about repetition, right?

Sure, the story has never been some grand epic about wizards and warriors, but they've always been extremely tounge in cheek with a fair amount of really stupid humour thrown in for good measure. Great? Probably not, but certainly not worthy of being completely shit on. I can think of hundreds of worse examples in the time it takes me to fart.

Sandboxers are usually fun (at least well made ones are) in that they give you a bunch of shit to just do as you please. That tends to be what's amusing. If one enjoys an experience that's not so rigidly structured, then they tend to be all about this genre. I can murder hookers just for the sake of enjoying the sound it makes when I apply bat to skull. Fine then. If I'm having fun, ain't that the point?

That said, multiplayer is what I'm looking forward to the most in this iteration. Helicopter chiken with my main man Tails is gonna be quite possibly the funniest shit ever. There's just something to be said about the ability to mess around with the tools given to you with no discernable goal except what you make yourself. Crackdown did this amazingly well, so I personally expect a good time out of this.

Opinion on being bored with the gameplay? Sure. Nothing wrong with that. The gamut of possible actions and gameplay that reveals itself as a result may not for everyone. Nothing appeals to everyone. Not even Earthbound or FF6. But dismissive such as you are simply because it seems popular is quite aggrivating. Dismissive because "oh, well, I didn't enjoy the others and here's why" makes a lot more sense, though.

But keep trolling it the fuck up. Awesome.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

A 10 out of 10 happens for the multitude of reasons we all know it happens for. Gaming journalism is a complete joke, to assume otherwise is to be wrong.

Have I misinterpretted your comment? I thought you were refering to "why are we excited?", not "why did it score so well on major sites?". The second seems like such a blatantly obvious rhetorical question that I assumed you were just asking the first.

It seems that you're locked into the mindset of not liking it due to disliking the last few, and that's totally acceptable. Not your cup of tea, but that begs the question of why you were asking in the first place? Seems like more trolling.

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Um, folks. Protips. No one said anything about really giving a shit what the review was all about. Diversion even went so far as to say the whole thing was sensationalist tripe, but that even so, it brough up interesting points that might be worth a second look. Deni, cherry picking your arguments and picking out what is OBVIOUSLY THE EXAGGERATED CRAP that was already mentioned just goes to show how much you skimmed of everyone else's arguments. Now you're just starting shit for the sake of starting shit.

RPG faggots coming out of the woodwork to be useless shitsacks sure is entertaining, though. What is it with big name releases and people trying oh-so-hard to appear hardcore by dissing a god damn review from a non-reputable source. WOW.

Holy fuck, guys. Your local paper gave a good review to a Harry Potter book! Let's have all the faux-intellectuals strut their stuff and say how much of a ripoff of Tolkien it is!

Fuck, you people make me CRY.

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It should be obvious that everyone's entitled to their own thoughts on a topic, but there is a large, fat line that's as thick as Mo0 and Sass combined between expressing it and flat out being a troll shithead.

Just don't cross it folks, threadbans are already getting handed out.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Captain Desu

I mean if its like Forza (Which i don't know how to play) Its gonna be a bitch for me to play.

Yeah, that's right. They turned GTA into a driving simulator.

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I'm not far enough in to declare it anything, yet, but I'm having fun. Multi is both fantastic but marred with some weird choices. I like Cops 'n Crooks a LOT, though, but the one FFA deathmatch I played was about as fun as smashing my foot with a hammer. The other modes are all various amounts of fun. I'm pretty pleased with that. I'll have to play more to see what I do and don't enjoy about that, too.

The line at midnight was hilariously fucking horrible, though. Every single person there, with the exception of me and the token girlfriend picking it up for someone, it was wall-to-wall fratboy retards. You know the stereotypical audience you imagine when you think of these titles? Yeah, all that. I've probably dropped a solid 30 IQ points or so just being in that line. Ugh.

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Well, the reason I mention it is that, even with the lines for Halo 3, this stood out as being full of those stereotypical fans more than those you'd usually associate with line standing.

I guess it goes to show just how large gaming has become, or just how insane consumers are in general, but it's a totally different demographic than I was expecting.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

You can produce the odd siren sounds by shooting out the red and blue lights with your pistol or any other gun. Or just flip the car and smash them.

FELIPE NO

There is no reward for the proceedural Viglantes outside of a little bit of cash, the ammo you pick up from the dead bodies, the achievement, and the 2.5% game completion addition after doing 20 of them.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Musharraf

oh, by the way, some review site called "GamerNode" rated GTA IV a 8.7/10, lol

Good for them. It's about time people stopped bleeting like sheep and actually tried a bit of that integrity stuff.

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Because there's no way in hell it deserves this many 10/10s when other, equally deserving titles do not hit the same mark. If this is a 10/10, so is Bioshock. So is Super Mario Galaxy. So on and so forth. Objectively (or as close as one can get to it), there is no way that this is the best game in a decade. I'm not hating on it, but fucking open your eyes, folks.

And indeed, kinda funny that an 8.7 is considered SUPER LOW OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON. It's hardly negative. It's just a tad bit more realistic here.

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I should clarify. All my comments meant was that it was nice to see a reviewer not succumb to the "peer review" process. My sheep comment merely referenced that, and "integrity" was probably the wrong word. It was not a reference to money hats as much as a reference to "this guy put his own opinion down and didn't let anyone else do shit about it." It's rare to see that in an age of PEER REVIEWS and removing and reuploading scores and all that jazz.

On a side note regarding what garners certain scores, maybe the difference lies in how we personally rate things. Some of us might give more of a crap for the technical bits, some of us might look more at the overall experience. This is part of the problem, I think, with how we digest these reviews. If the person writing them doesn't fall into the same sort of mindset, we tend to lawl a tad too much.

Considering how much hate I have for organized reviews in general, it should also be noted I don't particularily AGREE with the 8.7. Just mentioning it was nice to see someone buck the trend for once.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Is that a worth playing out of 5 or a worth playing out of 10.0?

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That was the joke, DN.

I was speaking idiomatically.