[News] CLOVER: The guys that brought you Okami and Godhand, to DISBAND!

Originally Posted by Elixir

Or it could become like Nippon Ichi titles, which are distributed in america by Atlus

Actually, this isn't entirely true anymore. Atlus doesn't publish the newer NIS titles. They did do it on some of their older games though, including the first Disgaea.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by BlueBomber

Honestly, has anybody ever seen a single commercial for Okami? This is one of the best games that I have ever played, and I would have never even heard of the game if it wasn't for these forums. Sales could have been better. Clover could be alive .

Actually, again, not entirely true. Okami's sales shit the bed in Japan too from what I've read. I'm sure this move hasn't originated from the sales numbers based off of a game that's not even been out a full month yet. (In America)

Originally Posted by Slayer X

You are right. NIS does publish their own games NOW. But that's besides the point. Let's try to keep on topic now, eh?

I'm just sayin'. It's not meant to start anything. Don't go on the defensive right away there, sir.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Epic Games (Used to be owned by Atari)

Epic was never an inhouse developer for Atari. Atari has been their publisher for years, but Epic Games, and formerly Epic Megagames and Potomac Computer Systems, were always independant.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Elixir

I don't have a source for every fucking thing I know.

That's cause you make it up as you go along.

No, the franchises are owned by Capcom. Source.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

In before complaining about the source.

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[UPDATE] Until Clover's doors are closed for good in March 2007, the Capcom representative said that the remaining staff will be busy working on the PAL versions of Okami and God Hand. She also confirmed that Capcom retains all the intellectual property rights to Clover's games.

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-- CLOVER LEAVES: Capcom's "Okami" is one of those games that's so good that as soon as you finish it, you're ready for the sequel. Unfortunately, Capcom has decided to shut down Clover Studios, the in-house group responsible for "Okami" as well as the bizarre brawlers "Viewtiful Joe" and "God Hand." Given the overwhelming critical hosannas for "Okami," many were surprised that Capcom would break up the team -- but it turned out that major talents Atsushi Inaba and Hideki Kamiya had left a while ago anyway. They won't be developing another "Okami" title -- Capcom retains the intellectual- property rights.

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Now, in your own words, why did Clover close? Did it close because it didn’t generate enough revenue or because key designers left?

Well, you know it’s an interesting question when you think, “What was Clover?” Now, Clover was a Capcom studio that was physically located in the R&D building in Osaka, Japan, and it was absolutely a Capcom-owned studio. Totally. But in many ways, all that has happened is that two individuals have left the company. The IP of Clover is part of Capcom and always was. …

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I was speaking idiomatically.

Intellectual property.

It doesn't mean no sequels. It just means no sequels done by the same guys. Capcom can get an intern to write a sequel on his coffee break for the N-GAGE if they want, for example.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

You do realize Clover was an internal house of Capcom's, right? Ala Overworks and Sega.

Same guys implies same team, and it's unlikely that a team that's now independant of Capcom will again work on one of the IPs they no longer control. I doubt we'll see any VJ or Okami sequels at all, from anyone, but that's just a personal assumption and I have no way of knowing for sure. Weither or not they partner up with Capcom again has yet to be seen.

And you're wrong again on sales numbers, by the way. As of March 2006, Halo 2 has sold about 8 million copies, and Halo the first sits at about 5. Later Tales games like Symphonia have sold siginficantly more than the earlier games like the Destiny games on PS1. I can't find any solid, backupable numbers on VP2, but it would have to flop to sell less than ehe 40-odd thousand copies the first one moved.

Perhaps you mean are less fun instead of selling more poorly, since I'll agree that the first Halo, Tales of Phantasia, and especially Valkyrie Profile are better than their sequels.

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