[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

If the costs are a hundred bucks less per unit nowadays than before, it would apply to all three SKUs, and the price difference for the EE alone would still be the same. (That's all my calculations took into account. The initial "They lose XYZ per console" was only used as a benchmark.)

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Oh, people are as dumb as bricks, I'll give you that. I'm not trying to say they aren't, or even that most would know about this issue. I'm just bringing up the fact that the EE removal might not even be the great super fix for reducing unit manufacturing costs even if it alienates only one in thirty customers. Or even fifty, that'll cut down how much is saved by half, or just under a third.

It just seems kinda strange to remove that feature when I wonder if there could possibly be other cost saving methods in production that could be taken that might present an even smaller difference to your average customer.

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As much as you'd like to imagine otherwise, perfect backwards compatiblity isn't a 'key feature'. Just look at the 360.

The 360 backwards compatibility fucking disgusts me, actually. It's terrible how slow they put out updates, and how few titles actually do get updated every 6 months.

As for "key feature", I only mention that as it starts out being somewhat important for folks who don't want to have every system hooked up to their TV at once, but it gets progressively less important as a console's library grows.

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Besides, you're talking as if the 80 GB version doesn't have backwards compatibility, which is simply wrong. Nearly all PS2 games work, and look better than on the original console due to upscaling, and you know that they are constantly updating the compatibility list. I wouldn't be surprised if, in half a year or so, there was no discernable difference between hardware and software emulation. Since spring, they've already improved the compatibility rate from the original 72% to a bit over 90%.

I didn't mean to imply that it didn't. However, the software emulation *is* inferior, and if it locks up occasionally like has already been mentioned in this thread, then there are problems that currently need to be addressed. I doubt the emulation will ever be as good as the dedicated chip, and I am curious if Sony will continue to work on it with as must gusto as they're doing now after more AAA titles drop, or if they'll shuffle it off to the side like MS has done, that's all.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Slayer X

?? Motion controls are motion controls. Don't matter if they're in a SIXAXIS, Wiimote, or a NASA robot control.

Uhh, no. And you should be banned from this thread (and possibly the gaming forums) for saying such horrible bullshit. A simple tilting accelerometer featured in the SIXAXIS is different from two IR emitters used to track the Wiimote's position. The six axis detects translational and rotational input ONLY. The Wii is capable of knowing where your Wiimote is in 3D space, using the sensor bar.

To say they are the same is to be wrong. There are things the Wiimote can do that the SIXAXIS can not. Wether one prefers simple tilting or not is up to that person's opinion, but they are NOT the same.

Also, if you're implying that the people who all reviewed LAIR poorly haven't played a fucking Wii yet, then you're god damn retarded. The hate for lair is nearly universal. To assume ALL THESE PEOPLE haven't played a Wii before is fucking ludicrous. They're professionals. They play games for a living. If you're telling me that these people haven't played the Wii and therefore "don't understand motion controls", then you've sunk to a new low of making shit up.

We understand at this point that you're on Sony's payroll. You have to find a way to silence these people who don't accept the moneyhats that PLAY magazine does. It's probably a decent job. I can imagine you get paid fairly well for it. And if you don't, you should. But that doesn't change the fact that you're a fucking retard.

Get the FUCK off my internet, you shit headed, thick skulled, troll. Your posts are the scourge of this gaming forum.

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Umm...thanks for proving my point? Yes, they are different implementations of an idea, capable of different things, and while they rely on some similar broad technological concepts, they are not the same in ability or design.

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"Motion controls are motion controls. Don't matter if they're in a SIXAXIS, Wiimote, or a NASA robot control.

Feel free to keep backpedalling over your own argument. It's amusing.

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