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Old Sep 1, 2008, 06:52 PM #1 of 61
I'll be checking this out and posting a review on my site tomorrow evening.

It's pretty lame that it's Windows-only for now. I think it would have been worth it for Google to hold off and at least add OS X support but can't be helped now. Hopefully they'll roll out an OS X version within the next few weeks (months?).

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Old Sep 2, 2008, 07:09 PM #2 of 61
Private browsing is something Safari has had for awhile, and I use it quite often but it's annoying switching between Firefox and Safari just to do some private browsing.

Anyway, running Windows was a bitch and I never want to do it again. Google Chrome, however, made up for that generally unpleasant experience. While some things aren't as powerful as others (Um, can we get an actual bookmark manager?), it is a quirky yet quaint browser with a lot of potential.

I think that if there was an OS X version, a bookmarks manager, the plugin API and a few of my favorite Firefox plugins ported over would seal this deal on at least a temporary switch.

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Old Sep 3, 2008, 06:47 AM #3 of 61
No, I just liked IE8 better. They actually showed sign of progress in that, while Chrome is mozilla + opera + safari rolled into one.
This is like saying you'll give an A for effort when the student obviously still hasn't met course expectations.

IE will forever be a broken framework. Don't mark my words on this, but even developers have said it's probably impossible to bring Trident (IE) to the same place Gecko (Firefox) or WebKit (Safari) is without rewriting it from the ground up. A broken framework is a broken framework, and it may show substantial progress compared to any other browser today, but I'm not gonna use it just because the developers are trying. Call me back when it actually works.

Let's put it this way: IE8 scored an 11% on the Acid3 test in beta. Google Chrome scored a 78 or so out of 100, higher than most Firefox builds. Sure, you can like IE8 more, but the better student is obvious. And personally, I'd rather have all of the best rolled up into one than something that's barely making it.

browsers have never been this serious goddamn

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Old Sep 3, 2008, 12:05 PM #4 of 61
More like not being a fan of repackaging the same thing under a different brand. Chrome = Webkit, it even has the same vulnerabilities.
The new WebKit spec passes Acid3 100%. I'm sure Chrome will eventually use this spec, as this was after all a beta release. Why fix what ain't broken?

I'm pretty sure thats just FUD. I don't ever remember reading that it's impossible to get Trident up to speed, and I check the IE developers blog pretty often. And besides, they got Acid2 from dogshit to perfectly working in one release, which tells me that Trident is as far from hopeless as possible.
It was before the IE7 release so maybe that's why. It was at least one year ago, more than likely two.

Look at it this way: the IE team has to catch up with 5 years of webstandards. IE is progressing faster than other browsers, but other browsers have a hell of a headstart. But eventually they will catch up at this speed. As long as Microsoft doesnt pull the carpet from under them, like they did once IE6 won the first browser war.

Furthermore, IE still has nearly 70% usage, and new versions spread hella fast due to windows update - Firefox implementing a new css standard is a nice perk, but IE implementing it means we can start using it in webages the minute the new release is out in the wild.
This doesn't fix the fact that IE is broken right now. Furthermore IE has more like 50% usage, split between IE6 and IE7. This doesn't mean IE8 will have complete 50% usage because not everyone will upgrade. There's still a fair amount of people who probably use IE6, and there will be a fair amount of people still using IE7, so the actual usage stats will probably be more around 18% for IE8.

I dunno, I think Chrome has more potential than the flawed IE engine ever will.

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Old Sep 3, 2008, 09:23 PM #5 of 61
Be aware that Chrome is collecting data and sends them to their central server (read: spyware). This includes all URLs that are visited during the browser use.

Read for example: Google-Browser entpuppt sich als Datenspion - pressetext.austria (use a translation service)

Anyone who wants privacy should currently stay away from the browser (or at least use a version where the sourcecode is patched, so the spyware code is disabled).
Isn't that only if you allow it to? Just send it lots of porn.

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Old Sep 3, 2008, 11:24 PM #6 of 61
@Bigblah: Who tells you that I'm using Google as a search engine?

To comment this a bit more:

1) I'm using a stripped down Seamonkey build, no integrated search feature activated
2) Adblock+ blocks most ads, modified hosts file does the rest
3) Cookie usage is restricted
3) I can fire up a I2P router for additional security/anonymity

I'm well aware that Google is collecting data. But it's IP-based data, maybe cookie supported (see above), so it's rather useless for them if the ISP uses dynamic IPs. Furthermore I can SSH-tunnel through my University server, effectively using this one as a proxy, making it nearly impossible to figure out who of the thousand of students is currently browsing the web.
And yes, I know some guys from the computer labs which run the network, this data is not recorded (currently at least...)
You're taking this way too seriously, and furthermore, I really don't like you so I'm going to kindly tell you to shut the fuck up and leave forever.

Google also said they will retroactively change their Chrome EULA, giving you even more reason to stfu and leave.

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