The 4400

I'm really starting to get into this show since I needed a break from LOST. I downloaded the episodes and ran right out the next day and bought the dvds. Now, season one was good and introduced us to the idea of the 4400. Season two was great at building up the conflict that would involve Isabel, but also established Tom and Diana as loyal partners. Now season three is really going to be action packed I think. So far the fifth episode has aired and the next episode looks like it's going to start everything off...especially if they are saying that a character will die...and it's someone you don't expect. Now obviously we would suspect Isabel since..

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Tom got the message from the future people saying, "Kill Isabel."

and I don't think Maia would go since..

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She pulled a big vanishing act on us in the last episode. Why would they kill her, when she was just placed back in the timeline.

So any thoughts, because I'm thinking one or two people...

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Richard (Isabel obviously is going to end up going to far at one point...she almost killed him after all)...or Marco (Even though he's a sweetheart to Diana). I don't think they would kill off Tom or Diana...since they are basically the heart of the show. Shawn is iffy...he's such a major character for Isabel to develop. Alana is definetly a possibility though.

Either way, we'll know tommorrow.

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Hmmm...

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I would be really upset if Marco died. He's pretty much the only way Diana will ever get married, because she's not exactly looking for love. I really do want them to be together. I don't want Alana dead either.

As for the return of Jordan Collier...remember that new guy that was sent to help Shawn saw the pics of Jordan with the beard and everything and said something about how he didn't want Jordan coming back or something. I can't remember where it was and what episode. Either way the new guy has to be killed by Isabel or something because I can't stand him....

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I really don't like Jordan. The whole 4400 center thing really was creepy to me, even though it would be understandable to want to provide a safe haven for the 4400. But the way he did it, it really felt like a cult. It's like scientology!

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That's definetly very true. Especially when the 4400 disease outbreak happened and there was a mandatory quarantine and they stormed the center and everyone was gone.

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Ohhhh, wait, I just went back and looked at the preview. They say someone will die, but it's not who you think. So obviously everybody thinks Isabelle because Tom is supposed to kill her....but it could be ANYBODY. Even a major character

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Well it seems Matthew was the person to die...thank god. That was a good episode, and we found out Isabelle is basically all powerful. We know she can't die from falling or drowning, and she can turn people's abilities against them. The fact that Tom could have killed her there when she basically told him to is probably going to come back to bite him. There is one thing I've been thinking about lately. When Isabelle talked to Matthew about trying to kill herself to save Lily...he gave her that same stuff that Tom has, at least it looks just like it. Why would he give her that if he wanted her to ultimately kill all the 4400s? I don't know what anyone else thought, but Matthew was a little bit stupid to say the things he did. He knew if he went to far Isabelle would kill him!

As for Jordan Collier's power, I dunno. Maybe the future took Jordan back and replaced him in the timeline because without him something terrible happens. I think if Jordan comes back soon...he and Isabelle are going to clash.

Now, for the previews. Someone they know is part of the Nova group? I hate how they are starting to go at every episode with a big revelation. Someone big was supposed to die this week, last two weeks...they totally forgot Maia existed and now this. I have no idea who it might even be. The only guess would be Richard because he kind of acted shady in this episode.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Ha, that's okay...it was a great episode though.

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Or it could totally be Alana....I hate to think it, but that's probably the one person you wouldn't suspect. Or what if it's someone who's not even a 4400...just someone who's in on the big things? It could end up being Marco or something.

EDIT: Btw, is anybody into reading Maia's Diary online and trying to get the phrase from the highlighted letters? This week the letters are "aareureimonaawbtrotgs". The only phrase I can think of that goes along with this is "Beware a traitor among us." And she says in the predictions Heather (As in Heather Tobey, the 4400 who unlocked artistic stuff in students) with tell a lie. And Alana will do something that gets her in big trouble. Maybe I'll just post all the predictions.

The Field Trip will be cancelled.

Shawn will have a visitor from his past who needs his help.

Alana will do something that gets her in big trouble.

My teacher Heather will lie.

Mommy and Tom will do something that they shouldn't do.

Somebody is going to go to jail.

Now, with those said. The field trip could easily be cancelled if Heather, her teacher, is a part of the NOVA group and ends up arrested. In the previews you can see Heather walking through the 4400 center with some people escorting her and she looks kinda dodgy. Alana might admit to do something to the Keene and get in trouble for it. Diana and Tom are in a forest in the previews and Dennis Ryland is in the same forest. In the previews, Tom yells "I trusted you." Obviously that will probably end up being the place where the NOVA members reveals themself. It could still very much be Alana, but maybe Heather will tell Tom that Alana is a member of the NOVA group, then Alana will get in trouble, but it will turn out Heather will be a member and go to jail. I bet Tom and Diana will end up hurting Dennis Ryland because they obviously don't like him anymore and they are going to be forced to work with him in the next episode.

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Yep, I think it's under Web Exclusives. She just writes what happened in last weeks episode and then writes what she sees. Lately they have been highlighting certain letters and you can rearrange them to maybe offer insight on what might happen.

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Well yeah, the previews are always going to be misleading. If you're a fan of LOST, you know what I mean. As for the guy playing Jordan, I dunno. Maybe the producers decided that they needed to kill him off and then realized that they maybe should bring him back somehow. And with the killing of Matthew, it's pretty much set up for him to come back. Who knows, maybe they knew from the beginning he was coming back and just kept it a secret.

Just one question, why did Isabelle go to see Dennis Ryland? Of course we don't know the real answer yet, but what do you guys think. Obviously she didn't kill him cause he's in previews for next week. Isabelle is really a mystery right now. At first I thought she was just plain evil, then she killed Matthew, which is a bad thing, but he was trying to tell her to kill all the 4400 and she made her own choice that she didn't have to do that. So another question....is Isabelle evil, or something else? Obviously we can see where this is going with Isabelle possibly being the evil thing that has to be stopped by Tom. The finale will probably be the final decision by Tom to kill her or not and who knows...she may end up killing herself.

One other thing, I know how the future has made it clear that Tom is very important to preventing the catastrophe...but what about Diana? It probably makes sense that Tom is the big key to it all and Diana is just an important part of Tom's life, but Diana adopted Maia and keeps Tom in check from time to time, so she's probably important too. Anyway, these are my thoughts. Enjoy.

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You know, I thought of something similar to that. The 4400 were sent back and everything and alot of them have done bad things, some good things, but won't all the 4400 pretty much be dead and all the stuff they've done probably be extinct by the time we get to the future when we can manage to pull people from different times and alter them and send them back. I've always wandered what time they were sent to.

As for your points, FadedReality. I don't really understand you're first question. If you asking if the 4400 save humanity and everything there would be no need for 4400, that's almost a paradox. I guess you think of it as two realities. The one where humanity dies and the one where humanity is saved. Essentially, what I think you're saying is like having a tape that constantly plays then rewinds. It's really hard to say because it's kind of paradoxal. They make the 4400 send them back and would they take and send 4400 back again? Who knows. The idea is that they made the 4400 and they'll fix everything and they won't have to do it again. So I don't really know if that's an adequate answer. Of course, they realized that it wasn't enough and sent the 5 children further back and that didn't work, so then they realized Tom has to kill Isabelle.

Then I read the last part and realize I've probably been typing crap. Yes, the future lived out life without having the 4400 fix things and everything ends. At least that's all the channel through Kyle tells Tom. So they made the 4400 to fix it.

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That's a confusing question though. It's like I said. It's like having a tape and continuing to rewind it once it gets to the end. I'm assuming that if the 4400 fixes the world of the future...there is no need to send them back. I think that the legend of the 4400 would probably live on and they might know about it that way, but no they wouldn't really have the idea to abduct them if the world is fixed. That's very paradoxal. I guess to make it clear the world is a certain way in the future. They fix it with the 4400. The future is fixed and everyone is happy. The 4400 still would have happened and I guess Tom and the 4400 would just pass on the knowledge that the future helped them even though they wouldn't know it.

....I'm confused.

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Ehhh, essentially, the 4400 are just what everyone in the future supposedly is like. So it happens regardless of Burkoff's crazy status, but yeah, the 4400 have had that ripple effect and Tess made them built the tower thing and it emited a signal that made Kevin Burkoff not crazy. So the capabities of using Promicin happens in the future already, but because Burkoff snapped out of it, he'll just speed things along. He figured out the whole Promicin Inhibitor thing and now he's even building promicin in his own body.

The 4400 took each person back to do something in the past that would change the world. And as for the last part, have you seen the season 3 episodes? Maia and the 4 children are sent further back in time because the future has found out that sending the 4400 back was not enough to fix the future, so now the next hope is that Tom kills Isabelle. Because even though I've stated how Isabelle isn't necessarily evil...odds are that she's the beginning of the end and they'll have to kill her to get the future fixed.

Of course, I think the series will ultimately end with the future being fixed for now, but there are always things that could cause everything to crash down.

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These discussions make me think of some stupid idea I had when Back to the Future was big. I always thought if Marty went to the future, then to the past...wouldn't present Marty keep going to the future, then to the past and there would be like a million and growing Marty's just continually going to the future then the past. I don't know, it was strange and it always made me confused when I was little.

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Thought I would try to bump the thread since there is a new episode tonight. I'm thinking right now that Alana is gettin' in trouble for something. There have been various previews with her sitting and talking and she just says, "I'm sorry." I think it will probably do with the guy who killed her husband and son. Oh well...we'll see.

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Okie-Dokey, I hope I'm not the only one who didn't enjoy today's episode. To recap, Gary gets a phone call telling him NTAC is coming after him, he runs away. Alana gets arrested, Heather gets arrested, Alana turns herself in, we find out Alana made the call to Gary, Tom offers a trade of Gary for Alana to Dennis, They do the trade, they handcuff Dennis to his car and Alana and Gary dissappear. I did not like how the whole episode played out. Plus I think we can confirm Isabelle is very evil, I don't think there is any hope for her. "If you go out with Nikki, I have a feeling it's going to end very badly. Both for you...and ESPECIALLY for Nikki." Kind of scary. Of course, it was very sad when Shawn had to cut himself loose from Nikki and couldn't tell her why. Anyway, I believe we will see Alana again, it's sad to see her go, because that leaves Tom with who? Maybe that will increase the dynamic between Tom and Diana and Maia. Not romantically, but friendly. Diana, even though it may not seem it, is like a sister to Tom. Anyway, Alana is gone though and the odds of her coming back for good is very unlikely...Anyway on to the next episode.

The preview basically told us that there is going to be some mysterious drug/disease. Here is the synopsis from the official website. Tom and Diana literally come face to face with their pasts when they are dosed with a drug created by a 4400. And in the preview on the website Tom sees his father...who has been dead for 9 years. So I'm thinking that Diana might see her father too, because she obviously is not fond of him and him of her. He didn't pick up the phone when the return was happening and she told Tom that Kyle was lucky to have him as a father, because she didn't have a good one. Anyway, a suicide occurs and did you see who it was. It was.......Liv, the druggie that Shawn reformed and took into the 4400 center. Strange, maybe she's experimenting and someone gives her the new mystery drug.

Anyway, here are this weeks Maia predictions...

-Mommy is going to have an unexpected visitor. (We probably expect April to come back sometime, but I personally think it's her father....maybe he just wants to see his grandaughter.)

-Tom is going to eat a cookie. (This is very strange. Maybe the drug is in a cookie. Maybe Diana and Maia will bake cookies and invite Tom over to keep him company. Strange either way.)

-Isabelle is going to see Shawn's baby pictures. (This is only going to attach her even more to Shawn...this obsession with Shawn is going to build up to the finale probably)

-Tom will work with a new partner. (Probably because Diana will fall under the effects of the drug)

-The cab driver is going to think mommy's talking to herself. (Effects of the drug?)

-Things will change at home. (If Diana's father visits, maybe he's going to stay. Who knows, maybe he wants to be the father that he wasn't to Diana. Could mean something totally different though)

And as for this week's hidden message...here are the letters.

pheswlaetetfrsilteemth

I can't think of much that goes with the predictions and the preview. Only thing I can imagine would be a part of it is "sweets" for these mysterious cookies. She even doodled the cookies on the page with her predictions, so it's probably something bad, considering the butterfly doodle was where she was taken when the future placed her further back.

Anyway, hope you guys enjoyed.

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Lily wasn't always thinking only of Isabelle. She got to a point where she was even scared of her own daughter. When she and Isabelle got older, she just didn't want to see Isabelle as something evil, just like Richard doesn't want to see she is evil now.

Anyway, about Burkhoff. I believe the next episode is called Blink, THEN the next episode is called the Ballad of Kevin and Tess! There's you're Kevin Burkhoff episode. They are getting to things, but it just takes awhile. And in case anyone is curious....The eleventh episode this season is called The Gospel according to Collier...Jordan will be coming back fairly soon. And I made a guess at who Diana would see.......are you ready, because this was a shocker........................................... .................................................. She sees her ex-fiance.... Didn't even think she's gotten serious with anyone.

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