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[Movie] Veronica Mars season 3: The best show that you might not be watching yet
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Old Oct 13, 2006, 07:44 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 07:44 PM #1 of 74
I wasn't a fan of this show for a long time actually. One of my friends loved it and I kinda brushed it off because I watch a ton of shows religiously throughout the week. Anyway, last week I saw Season 1 at Best Buy for 20 bucks so I thought I would bite and after the first disc I was hooked and after I marathoned season 1, I had to run out and get Season 2. And I finished in time to start watching season 3.

This show has so many different qualities that make it so good. It has teenage drama, very funny situations, and mysteries that give it a dark, film-noir (television-noir? lol) feel. The character Veronica is someone you root for and she stands up for what she believes in (as in choosing to stick by her dad, rather than her friends), but at the same time, she's selfish, sassy, and makes a ton of mistakes along the way.

Season 3 is a little less exciting than Season 1 and 2 started as, because within the first episode or so, they set up the big mystery of the season. Season 1 being the "Who killed Lilly Kane?" and Season 2 being, "Why did the bus crash, who did it, and why?" But Season 3 is good so far, I'm glad they added Mac as a regular on the credits. I really liked her scenes with Veronica and Beaver, until he....you know....

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was revealed as a psycho that made the bus crash and jumped off the building. I felt so sorry for Mac when Veronica came back and she said that Cassidy took her clothes.


Anyway, I'm not sure if I like the new character Piz. Obviously there is going to be some clashing between Logan and Piz over Veronica. Even though I really don't like Logan....I didn't like Duncan either.......The only boyfriend I liked for Veronica was Leo.

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Old Oct 13, 2006, 10:32 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2006, 10:32 PM #2 of 74
I'm no good at guessing at whodunnit's. If you are referring the who did the rapes....I don't think we have enough information to even begin to guess who it might be. I don't think it was the RA with the Battlestar Galactica obsession.

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Old Nov 28, 2006, 10:03 PM Local time: Nov 28, 2006, 10:03 PM #3 of 74
Wow, I have to say I was fairly shocked how I said I don't think the RA was the rapist and he basically was helping the rapist. Anyway, even though the future of the show is up in the air right now especially since we have to wait now for the word on whether or not it's going to continue or be cancelled. Either way, I think Veronica's adventures are done past this season. It makes me sad, but the CW just doesn't know what is good obviously. Even Rob Thomas, the creator, was worried about the future of the show.

Anyway, I think this episode was absolutely fantastic. It was just as thrilling as Season 1's big "Case Solved, but now Veronica has to escape Crazy Aaron Echolls." And as for LoVe.....they were a little deceptive when they said some stupid promo that said LoVe/Piz=? because there were really no scenes of Piz moving in on Vernoica. As for the direction Logan is taking, I don't quite understand why he broke up with her in the first place. Did he know that she was going to catch the rapist and he was going to do his best to get his revenge on the rapist and not involve Veronica? I dunno, let's hope that the season gets the full order of episodes it deserves.

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Old Nov 28, 2006, 10:53 PM Local time: Nov 28, 2006, 10:53 PM #4 of 74
Actually, ummm, LOST is just on hiatus right now...they do it every season, but this season they're just doing it for 13 weeks which sucks. Anyway, the show isn't cancelled yet. It was ordered for the first...I don't know how many episodes there have been, and the future past that is pretty dependent on how it did in ratings and if the CW isn't feeling like a douche.

And Dark Nation....both seasons 1 and 2 are on DVD, season 2 has been out for a few months now.

EDIT: Okay, I feel like an idiot for reading that wrong JasonTerminator.... =P. Yeah, I'm glad this season I really just stuck with my shows that I know will be around for awhile.....

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Old Nov 29, 2006, 12:03 PM Local time: Nov 29, 2006, 12:03 PM #5 of 74
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Piz doesn't bother me, I'm not a Logan fan either since he was a complete jerk until season 2 and then Veronica and him went out for basically 5 minutes. In the season 2 premiere she was telling what happened over the summer and her and Logan went out and they showed like 5 minutes of footage of them together, then argument....then no more LoVe for awhile. I havn't liked anybody Veronica has gone out with EXCEPT Leo. I loved Leo, but she just used him. As for Dean O'Dell dying... It kinda makes me sad because he was trying to make everyone happy with his decisions, but everytime he made one, someone else would get mad. I'm wondering who killed him unless I have short term memory and don't remember them showing who it was. What do you wanna bet Weevil gets blamed.


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Old Nov 29, 2006, 10:18 PM Local time: Nov 29, 2006, 10:18 PM #6 of 74
The 16-19 crowd who are in high school and transitioning into college probably are the likely candidates of One Tree Hill. Same with the OC....though I admit to watching alot of the OC, but after Season 1, I just didn't like it the same way. VM seems to have a wider range audience considering Micheal Ausiello at TV Guide is a fan and he turns people onto the show through him always talking about how awesome it is and people should be watching.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 07:58 PM Local time: Nov 30, 2006, 07:58 PM #7 of 74
Veronica Mars just isn't as publicized and hyped as it could be. You barely see cast members getting on talk shows or TRL or such places that would be easy to get viewers from, whereas with One Tree Hill, Supernatural, Smallville, etc. you see them regularly going on shows geared towards teens. Then a show like Gilmore Girls is fairly publicized, but it's had a loyal large following all throughout the show. VM just hasn't had any of that. I've seen Kristin Bell on a couple shows before....what did she promote.... that movie Pulse when it came out. I don't remember her ever mentioning VM or talking about that so it was kind of a bad move.

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Old Dec 1, 2006, 10:28 PM Local time: Dec 1, 2006, 10:28 PM #8 of 74
I'm glad to see that the episode got good ratings....maybe there is hope for another season beyond this one. But I agree that it's a much better show than some of the stuff. Gilmore Girls isn't a bad show, it's actually pretty good sometimes and it has a loyal following, much like Veronica Mars does though the following is smaller than that of GG.

I'm glad someone brought up the Studio 60 crap. It's interesting....but it should have been cancelled. All we can really do is hope they don't cancel something that is actually good, but that's just the fate of TV shows sometimes. The good stuff goes, the bad stuff stays.

Finally, Aardark....I love that little gif.....I just those Logan was crazy when he did it and then they showed him in the cell with Mercer and then I just said, "Uh-oh." I think I'm gonna change my avatar and sig to a VM themed one to support the Veronica Mars cause.

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Old Dec 5, 2006, 09:36 PM Local time: Dec 5, 2006, 09:36 PM #9 of 74
Well the CW is sure they have better programming...I mean who wouldn't want to watch One Tree Hill, America's Next Top Model, Smallville (I'll argue this one a bit, I've liked it on and off, but I'm kind of liking this season.), and the highly overdrawn 7th Heaven. *sarcasm* Just a side topic....why in the world would the CW resurrect 7th Heaven because the odds of it going for another season past this one is low. Veronica Mars is their smartest show, Gilmore Girls used to have some smart, quick humor, but it really feels just like recent pop reference humor.

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Old Dec 6, 2006, 05:23 PM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 05:23 PM #10 of 74
Ummm, the last one was called Static....I think S06E06?

Edit: I take that back, I looked it up and it was episode 8, not 6. Btw, I love the fact that the Martian Manhunter is going to come into the picture soon. And am I the only person who thinks that you shouldn't have someone play Jimmy Olsen...if they played a freak of the week back in season 1....

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Old Dec 6, 2006, 10:03 PM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 10:03 PM #11 of 74
I really didn't know he had a twin.... I've seen them in so many things and never paid attention to the names. Still though, isn't it the least bit strange to have Jimmy Olsen played by the twin of a freak of the week.

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Old Dec 6, 2006, 10:56 PM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 10:56 PM #12 of 74
Yeah, it's not a great time for VM to return if people want to give it a fighting chance for another season. I have to say that now that someone points out American Idol....VM is probably done for. Maybe not though, hopefully not.

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Old Dec 7, 2006, 10:30 PM Local time: Dec 7, 2006, 10:30 PM #13 of 74
I agree, it's not a huge loss to stop doing the big mysteries and focus on individual episode mysteries. I didn't mind it either, it didn't take away THAT much from the show. They would still have the episode mysteries, but on the side, Veronica would find out something about the big case. But I think in Season 2 and even further in season 3, they were just juggling too much info. There would be a big case, the episode case, and in season 2 they really added the drama with Logan and Duncan.

Hopefully with this though, they make Veronica a little less of a bitch. She's just not like she was in the seasons before.

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Old Dec 8, 2006, 10:44 AM Local time: Dec 8, 2006, 10:44 AM #14 of 74
Well RT had the season mapped out how it would go in terms of the big mysteries. But when the CW ordered a limited pickup, he had to cut big mysteries, and now with the announcement that there aren't going to be big mysteries anymore, he's even more limited to what he can do in terms of solving the Dean O'Dell case. Perhaps Veronica will just back off while her dad investigates...she is a busy girl in college after all, she should start acting like it every once in awhile.

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Old Jan 28, 2007, 07:30 PM Local time: Jan 28, 2007, 07:30 PM #15 of 74
Yay, VM discussion!

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The dean case is kind of hard to guess at. I don't know about Tim, but it would be smart of him to do it, because Tim did throw Veronica on the track to catch Professor Landry having an affair with the Dean's wife. So in terms of suspects he's the least suspicious. I think it has to be narrowed down to three people who had access to Veronica's paper on "the perfect murder". I think it's either the Professor, the Dean's wife, or Tim. The Professor and Tim obviously had open access to the paper. And when Dean O'Dell caught his wife and Landry together, she could have easily hatched a plan with Landry and gotten hold of the paper. I really don't think it could have been anyone else since we've gotten the clue that the murder was exactly like Veronica's paper. The feminists can probably be scratched off the list, Weevil was the one that found him and he's not really that smart to think to get the perfect murder paper. Who knows, they are bound to surprise us and make the murderer his secretary or something.


Btw, I loved last weeks episode. It had a fun case and I LOVED the stuff with Mac and the animal rights guy. Plus some of the humor is back with all the interaction between Veronica, Parker, and Mac. The only thing I hate about Veronica is how she keeps going back to Logan. I really don't like her with Piz either for that matter, but she did break Piz's heart when he offered to buy breakfast and all of the sudden she's back with Logan. At least, she realized that Piz was hurt by the fact that she was back with Logan.

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Old Feb 14, 2007, 11:11 PM Local time: Feb 14, 2007, 11:11 PM #16 of 74
That would be kind of depressing if you watched this show and your girlfriend broke up with you, considering this season is all about Veronica and Logan breaking up and getting back together every other episode. Anyway, this weeks episode wasn't terrible, but it wasn't good either. It just doesn't have the same edge it used to. That doesn't mean there havn't been good episodes this season though. Obviously the Hearst-rape case solved episode was fantastic and the hooker with a heart episode was just great, but most of them have been real clunkers.

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 11:36 AM Local time: Feb 15, 2007, 11:36 AM #17 of 74
Oh forgot to mention, LoVe as boyfriend/girlfriend is actually over for awhile to make way for Pizonica. Logan and Veronica will remain friends and according to Michael Ausiello, he's going to ask permission from her before "shtupping" one of her best friends. We can obviously guess that it won't be Mac.......so Logan is going after Parker?

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Old Feb 15, 2007, 11:34 PM Local time: Feb 15, 2007, 11:34 PM #18 of 74
Lol, the most far-fetched combination was the HoYay one. Anyway, I agree, he's gonna run out of people to "shtup" and admit it to Veronica sometime soon. And I agree, Veronica needs to just stop dating for awhile. I only liked her with Leo as I've stated before and she had to get him fired! Btw, isn't there a character named Wallace in this show? I can't quite remember because I think he's dissappeared or something *exaggeration*. Apparently there's going to be a mystery-of-the-week with him involved so hopefully we'll see him again.

Anyway, I kind of agree about Parker. They made her kind of unique and then after the rape was solved, they just kind of blended her in with the furniture so-to-speak.

All this Veronica talk makes me want to have a VM DVD Marathon this weekend.

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Old Feb 21, 2007, 07:59 PM Local time: Feb 21, 2007, 07:59 PM #19 of 74
Ahhh, I feel kind of mixed about Lamb dying. He was a huge jerk, but even Veronica and Keith wouldn't want him to actually die. The new shift in power is going to be very interesting. Now Keith has the authority to do a lot more.

I just want to know who bugged the professor, unless I totally didn't listen and they revealed it in the episode. I think it might have been Vinnie or Tim.

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Old Feb 24, 2007, 12:22 AM Local time: Feb 24, 2007, 12:22 AM #20 of 74
The more I look at Lamb, the more I kind of miss him. He was snide and crude and mean and corrupt at times, but in the end (not particularly his literal end) he would end up willing himself to give a little leeway to Keith, though there was the added bonus that if he did find anything in a case, he would end up getting credit for it.

I think although Lamb was underdeveloped (I agree with the Meg storyline and it just dissappeared....there was something about that story that the character seemed to take a little further than a police officer would.), he was a good character. He wasn't a villain. Aaron Echolls was a villain. Cassidy "Beaver" was a villain. Lamb wasn't. He did his job, though it was sloppy at times, but he was only as corrupt as the city of Neptune is. I mean the first scene with Wallace and Lamb telling him to go see the Wizard, he was even afraid of the biker gang because he ultimately couldn't do anything about them.

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Old May 11, 2007, 03:29 PM Local time: May 11, 2007, 03:29 PM #21 of 74
Yep, In a drastic effort to save VM, Rob Thomas has pitched a time skip of VM where Veronica would be working for the FBI. Apparently the head person at the CW really liked it, but the ratings havn't been stellar. HOWEVER, with the cancellation of Gilmore Girls, they are losing a big show so they can't afford to lose shows like Gilmore Girls and Seventh Heaven. VM might just have a fighting chance now. And yes, no more season long mysteries, it's a case by case basis and I feel like that's a lot better than a season long case. The only season it really worked for me was season 1.

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Old May 12, 2007, 09:37 PM Local time: May 12, 2007, 09:37 PM #22 of 74
LOL, Leo? I agree with your grrowrr if it means you love that lovely Italian man. But the answer is....probably not. Actually if V makes the move a couple years ahead...the odds of any of the people that are on now besides Kristin Bell are in danger of not being in the series. Yes, even daddy Mars is in trouble. My BIG complaint though is the fact that Pizonica got the go ahead....and Chris Lowell is leaving for the Grey's spinoff. It's better for his career and I'm sure since the show is in danger, there weren't any contractual obligations past filming the last episode.

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Old May 23, 2007, 06:57 PM Local time: May 23, 2007, 06:57 PM #23 of 74
Well here is the lowdown on the future of VM. Dawn Austroff (Not sure if the last name is right), the president of the CW has cancelled VM in it's current form. If by some slim chance Rob Thomas can get a working version of future FBI Veronica written and actually make it good, then, and remember VERY slim chance, it might get picked back up in that form. The odds of that are low...so it's okay to just start mourning now...it was cancelled on my birthday =(. What a bad birthday present, but then I went to see Cirque du Soleil and then that cheered me up a bit....then back to mourning.

However, some good news. There is actually talk of a VM big-screen movie...not a typo either. I can't imagine VM as a movie, but eh, it's better than just hearing nothing of future closure for VM fans. Check Ausiello's section on tvguide.com.

About the ending now, I thought it was somewhat poetic. The series began with Veronica and Keith only have each other to rely on, Keith was forced out of his job as sheriff and Veronica was the hated girl in school. That all changed then the ending brought them back to all that. I liked the last scene of Veronica going to vote for her dad, it just reinforces the theme of that father/daughter bond that you don't see on any other tv shows.

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Old May 24, 2007, 11:47 PM Local time: May 24, 2007, 11:47 PM #24 of 74
There's is no way another network would pick it up. It's just one of the shows that are smart, get put on tv for a couple seasons, then gets yanked for various reasons. speculative is very much right about network TV, viewers just enjoy the dumbest concepts *cough* ABC upfronts Cavemen about the Geico Cavemen *cough*. Don't get me wrong though, it will fail miserably, but it will still draw millions of viewers....sad.

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