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Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
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Old Jul 7, 2006, 12:57 PM Local time: Jul 7, 2006, 12:57 PM #1 of 92
Originally Posted by rockthepartay
If it happened with King Kong for a ficitional tribe, it will definitely happen with this movie. In Dead Man's Chest, the natives are cannibals and they are dark skinned. That's the gist of it.

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Basically, the natives think Sparrow is a God and that they eat their Gods to release them from their flesh. Sparrow is given a necklace made out of human toes and the cages that Turner and the rest of the crew are captured in are human bones. As everyone escaped the island, the dog with the keys is left behind and the natives begin to chase after them.
There are schools of thought that say that any adventure movie has some amount of post-colonial imperialism in it. I don't feel like getting into a great amount of detail with you, since you've already made up your mind, but this runs over the basics.

Suffice it to say that the tribe in the movie is shown as culturally distinct only in that they are an antagonistic force. They are there to be in opposition to everything euro-centric.

And yes, the movie was fun, exciting, and very well executed. That doesn't mean it doesn't lean on some distinctly rickety thought processes. (Natives! Better run, they must be cannibals! Obviously!)

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Jul 7, 2006, 01:11 PM Local time: Jul 7, 2006, 01:11 PM #2 of 92
Yeah, seeing Davy in the trailer, I wondered just how serious I was going to be able to take this movie, but you're right, it was a lot more dark than the first one, and the characters (Davy in particular) were more compelling in this one.

It took me a while to figure out who the actor was, but when my friend mentioned Underworld, it was a lot easier to see the resemblance to Bill Nighy.

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Old Jul 9, 2006, 06:07 PM Local time: Jul 9, 2006, 06:07 PM #3 of 92
Originally Posted by naturally_tipsy
I think that people worried about spoilers should not be reading three-page discussions of movies released days ago that they haven't seen yet, as there are bound to be spoilers in them. I mean, I don't read them. But there we are.
Looking for opinions on the movie and looking for the whole thing to be ruined are concepts exclusive of one another.

Also "days ago" != free reign when a convenient and considerate alternative is provided for you jesus christ why do I have to explain these things.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jul 11, 2006, 02:01 AM Local time: Jul 11, 2006, 02:01 AM #4 of 92
Originally Posted by Rikimaru
For goodness sake, this is just a movie. They might as well protest that Davy Jones was misrepresented as a fish monster.
I'm sure people said Natural Born Killers was just a movie too, but that doesn't mean it didn't influence individuals' behavior in unforseen ways. I'm sure you're familiar with the copycat killings surrounding the movie.

Now, does that mean this film will turn anyone or even a significant portion of people into racists? Not necessarily. But to say that it has no effect is false, because you're speaking for not just yourself, but everyone who goes to see it.

People tell themselves they won't be affected by things all the time, but they don't always follow up so well.

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