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Originally Posted by Morrigan

It's not entirely false, but the premise is wrong or badly interpreted.

You might think I'm picking on you. Well, I suppose I am, but only because of your infuriating smugness. NOPE COULDN'T POSSIBLY BE A PROBLEM WITH ME SO HERE'S THE REASON WHY EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG, NOT ME, NOPE, COULDN'T BE.

Have you honestly ever entertained the notion that you are judging music based on some set of personal--not universal-- criteria?

Technically proficient music doesn't mean it's objectively good. I mean really, who doesn't like "Born to be Wild?" And no, you don't have to like certain types of music so long as you don't make it some sort of crime to like them. It wasn't long ago that the mere mention of certain bands set your heart to palpitating and got your typing fingers all a-flutter. Frankly I'm surprised you let the comments about Fear Factory go without some tired rhetoric about making a thread of their own.

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Originally Posted by Morrigan

See above. Since I enjoy Venom and Mötorhead, I'd love to know where you got the notion that I equate technical proficiency with quality.
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Many bands DO simplify or tone down or otherwise alter their sound, in a shitty way

Honestly now, how many different ways are there to read this, Morrigan?
And after I just got done mentioning your desire never to be wrong, you basically told me, in no unspecific terms, that you couldn't possibly be wrong. Of COURSE it must be me who didn't read your post, because that would mean you made such complete and utter sense yourself that your argument could never fail. (I mean DUH, right?)

Since you tend to associate bands that play in a certain style with a certain level of suckiness, there's really not much to be said beyond that. For lack of a better term, that's how you roll. Well fuck it, I don't care, but it's far too often that you try to impose some kind of imagined standard on other people, and pass it off as fact. I have no doubt you listen to other music besides metal, but you're just so protective of what you think is metal. It's like the little conversation we had with Iwata over acoustics in the metal thread a while back. It doesn't hold water.

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Originally Posted by Morrigan

I really don't get your sudden hostility. Take a chill pill, for crying out loud.

It's not my fault you misinterpreted my comment (what can I say, you did - interprete that as smugness if you want, it's not my problem). It said nothing about technical proficiency being synonymous with quality. "Simplify" can mean many things, and not just refer to technical aspects. And then there was "tone down" and "otherwise alter", which should have been more than enough to tell you I was referring to various other things than technical skills.

As for the rest of your projecting/strawman, I'm merely amused at your pettiness. Bringing back old arguments from before, that I for one hardly remember at all, transcends mere whining. And with that Fear Factory comment, it's as if you wanted me to have made a nasty comment, and practically yelled at me for not doing it... sheesh, get a life. :|

I'm sure you don't believe me, but I am not attempting to needle you. I'm asking you how you expect me or other people to read you if you insist on making everyone else the source of the problem (which was all I really cared about to begin with).

Look, this isn't even really about metal. Or music. You offered an explanation that conveniently left you free from any responsibility in the discussion, and I wanted to make sure you understood as much.

Forget it. You are right in the sense that it's not that important. I tend to crusade a lot more often than is good for me.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.