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The Pirate Bay files charges against media companies
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Old Sep 23, 2007, 01:35 AM Local time: Sep 23, 2007, 01:35 AM 1 #1 of 72
this is awesome and all for all of us pirates, but let's take a moment to think rationally here. We all KNOW ThePirateBay, or torrents and P2P for that matter, are NOT right. Stealing people's efforts when they should be paid for it is NEVER right.
That said i should note that although i do pirate stuff i do it while realising i am wrong, not the self-delusioning reasoning TPB and its 'fans' usually put up.

regardless, this should be interesting.
When organizations like the MPAA use guerrilla tactics to subvert the law, and then attempt to use its technicalities towards their own ends, why not use one of those technicalities against them?

In other words, it's legal in Sweden. It is not legal, however, to hire people to crash servers of a business that is, according to Swedish law, legal.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Sep 23, 2007, 01:55 AM Local time: Sep 23, 2007, 01:55 AM #2 of 72
Talking about what's right all the time is an exercise in futility. Many people accept things that are for a greater good because they understand the inherent benefit in them. The evidence that the money "being taken away from artists" is actually lining the labels' pockets doesn't exactly inspire public confidence.

Ask Trent Reznor if it's right to download his music after he put Pirate Bay links to some of his songs from of his latest album on his website.

Or ask Night Phoenix, as a musician who hasn't had a breakout album and is essentially still trying to work his way into the music industry from the ground up, whether it's okay to pirate his music. (before or after success.) Chances are he'll say yes.

Either way, though, what's "right" is never going to be consistent. Or at least, not for consistent reasons, and therefore to varying degrees. Someone might feel more right than someone else. I don't think in this case a thief is a thief is a thief. It's more complicated than that.

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Old Sep 24, 2007, 10:37 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2007, 10:37 PM #3 of 72
Two wrongs don't make a right.
No, but in this case, they do bring public attention to the issue. If I admit to myself that I am stealing, I justify it by saying various things. One of which is "I'm just previewing to see if I like it."

If I buy the album later, am I still "wrong?"

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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